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Beautiful, this is exactly how it sometimes can feel like, especially when the mind goes ultra crazy and mega amounts of random chatter/thoughts start racing. Usually during the night. What would you suggest for further reading on this topic? Books/articles/etc No, I can't really see any harm in shutting down internal monologue, except that maybe it wouldn't be there rationalizing everything out loud. Could you explain what harm could it cause? By a feedback loop, do you mean that the internal monologue is giving itself feedback from what is being/has been experienced? Yes!!! Damn, I thought I was going crazy because I really do have a voice of a friend of mine, in my head, that very often acts as a critic of my own actions.

More explanation would be needed on this statement. IMO I can call it a ball-sack if I wish to, it still wont change its essence. So when brain chatter is running on auto pilot, and has not yet received attention it's not a perception?

Instead of upvoting comments, I'd like to see an option of reacting to a comment with an emoji, that'd be awasome

@Godhead a lot of cats, haha love em'.

I'm a developer. Which programming languages have you practiced during these 2 years? To how many job interviews have you actually been to? With 2 years of learning, and 5-10 applications per day ... somethings fishy..

Go for it! I guess there's no better option then just to face the fact what your therapist told you, and start working on your new career. Remember that ego doesn't like change, so you'll most likely will experience negative emotions and an ego backlash. I know this from myself because I shifted careers from a debt collector (it's not as bad as it sounds) to a developer. Yeah.. it's rough at the beginning but totally worth it, so good luck to you!

Hmm this is a very interesting perspective, this might apply to when it comes down to that chatter where one imagines some previous experience and conversations, and then starts to replay them with different scenarios that could of led to more pleasurable feelings. Bingo! This really is true, I've noticed that useless brain chatter occurs mostly in my free time, after work, before bed, on weekends etc. So your suggestion would be to play a full round of chess versus myself in my head, with eyes closed, visualizing the whole process?

You know the saying - 'No ship sails the same sea twice' ? Doesn't really mean that the ship won't really be sailing the same sea, but means that once a voyage with your crew, you and them will never be the same. Same applies with life, once you experience the same or similar situation in different periods in your life, the situation/what heppened might be the same, but how you perceive it changes.

Isn't a prayer just a set of words that we assign a religious/sacred meaning to? IMO a prayer is no different from cursing, since you assign the meaning to these words. Prayer would most likely just work in a way affirmations/subliminals and (positive) self talk work, where you visualise your goals, repeat them to yourself via words or visualizations, imagination etc. Nothing sacred in words & thoughts IMO.

Yes, @Martin123 , I've thought of this more or less similary. What I've personally noticed is that a lot of people on this forum / Leos followers are instantly negatively judging masculine, financially successful men, examples: Elliott Hulse, Curtis Jackson (50cent). As soon as something that is popping up about these people, users here are instantly ready to lynch these guys. I can't find the exact topic but I recall Leo writing something similar like "Macho bullshit, I expected better from Eliott Hulse etc" 50cent wrote a self help book This is a good example also.

@Origins Woah, that's some really deep, in detail explanation. Thanks for this.

I see a lot of people recommending just to leave or exclude that person from your life, which is a good advice in some situations. But what if that person is within a your social group and you want to be within this social circle but only have a problem with this one person? Just leaving or excluding that person isn't an option here. My advice is to bust back, and harder than they do. By this I mean, if they are disrespectful towards you - Don't react emotionally, but rather be ready to get into 'verbal sparring' with him/her and say something like "Oh just like that time when you did xxx" and so on. This is of course a sign of that persons low level of development and I'd suggest a change in social circle/people around you.. but that's not always an easy task, so if you have to stick with these people - fight back, don't become emotional and don't let yourself to become their verbal punching bag. EDIT: You might want to look into this, in fact Joe Rogan has other episodes that you might relate to:

Yeah, in-fact a recent study found out that even Crows are self aware.

I gues you would feel like Patrick underwater together with spongebob, lol. Anyways, I'd do that even without psyches, sounds awesome.

If you judge books by their cover.. You're in trouble.

Yes, I've noticed that some members of this forum for some reason despise masculine, financially successful men, Eliot Hulse is on of them. Fifty is a great 'from rags to riches' example, he made it. Yes he's gangsta rap is red as fuck but I'm sure he is influencing people from the same levels of development to achieve something more out of their lives / change views / beliefs etc. He might be just like Leo for a different audience.

Have you been using MDMA lately? Because that drug's comedown effects can involve brain zaps. I've experienced them. Also, are you sure that you're not just loosing consciousness / falling asleep and then just snapping back? That can also make you feel like a zap.

Sounds like you've done a lot of looking into this topic, thank you for sharing. However, this leaves us with even more questions, that need to be answered before taking your explanation as a fact IMO: 1. Who is dreaming up those dreams? 2. Who/What decides whether or not exactly this dream is to be stored in subconcious? 3. What conditions must apply to the dream for it to be stored there? 4. How long do these dreams stay there? / How many dreams can be stored there? I don't suggest just blindly believing 'some people' who claim that their dreams (dreams that occur when asleep) have come true. There is also 0 evidence of this.

So if the brain is able to store dreams containing information about an event that hasn't occurred yet, how come only the events from our dreams that we don't remember actually occur? How come events of dreams that we remember don't happen?

So some of you have previously joined me on the topic of Is Kundalini Yoga dangerous? Some of you shared your direct experiences (Pure gold - thank you!) Anyway, this is insane, I've been meditating (simply watching and releasing thoughts) for 35mins daily for a year now and doing self-inquiry daily for half year 45minutes and Yes - I've 'reached' some realizations ("I" is illusory, everything is made of the same stuff) and had my dark moments (dark night of the soul, depression etc) Even tho some of you shared very, very unpleasant experiences, I as a rebel,of course ignored all that and continued to do Kundalini Yoga exercises mixed up with Kriya Yoga meditation + self inquiry. No psyches. And well... holy fucking shit. This post will be mostly me sharing my experiences with these methods combined together. And they truly are unpleasant. 1. Meditation has gotten very unpleasant: When I meditate it feels like my upper body is getting swung around like a puppet. Head is also spinning (Like when your drunk as fuck and trying to fall asleep, except there is no nauseous feeling) Moments of complete emptiness (that emptiness is cold btw) and fear of that emptiness together with swinging of the body have become so strong that I have to stop my sessions and open my eyes, calm down from fear, and restart my session. I meditate in yogic position. 2. Random stuff happening in my life that I can't explain: This one might sound strange, it also feels stranger than it sounds. I feel like I'm going insane but some fucked up coincidences have been happening since I've started Kundalini. I meet people in person that I've been recently thinking of or dreaming about. Things that I've been thinking abbot suddenly happen trough random events etc. I know it's most likely just my mind putting together random events that have occurred and blaming it all at Kundalini since it's somehow mystical (kinda like ancient people blaming nature disasters on gods) but still I feel like it's worth mentioning. 3. Nightmares There hasn't been a single night that I've had a night without atleast 3 dreams. They're all completely fucked up. I dream about things that I've been suppressing - Relationships with my mother & father. Communication with the opposite sex. Lack of sex. Lack of masculinity etc. I'm not going to go into full detail what I'm seeing in those dreams but it's always a nightmare. I dream of murdering people, having sex, being worshiped by a demon and being swung sharply around with no control (similar to like when meditating) 4. Something just simply has changed: This one is real hard to explain but something about my reality has just simply changed. Nothing is how it was before I started mixing up those practices. It's like nothing has changed, but in the same time everything has changed.

Ahhh. Yes! During day time it's bearable, but it gets real scary when you have to take a piss during night-time and you pass a mirror in the dark and that feeling of 'who the heck was that' brings up fear & anxiety, hehe. Yes, that's what I actually started doing yesterday and will continue to do every other day until nightmares subside. However during my sessions I'm trying to keep that distance between bodily sensations and to what I believe is the observer, and not take thoughts too seriously, not get attached to thoughts and not letting them carry attention too far away, basically just watch everything. I also was contemplating 'what is attention?' and 'who is watching?' the other day, which basically just ended in chasing my own tail. I came to an conclusion that focus/attention is simply the brains ability to highlight one sense over others. And who's watching is yet again just the brain processing all inputs received by the body (inner and outer visual, audio, physical sensations) No "I" is still involved in this process, so who is aware of all this, remains a mystery. Thanks for your advice, I'll continue the type of meditation that you suggested and if you don't mind then I'll get in touch with you in a week or two.

Well said. According to Alan Watts - You are karma.