TheSelf

It's 5 am, I woke up about two hours ago because of a lot of pain below my right rib, now it expanded to my whole stomach area, I don't know what it is but I've been suffering from this pain for the past 2-3 years, maybe it's Gallbladder,I don't know, I haven't investigated into the issue yet. Im still in a lot of pain and usually it takes a few hours before it goes away. What I'm trying to do now is to calm down and just be, watch myself experiencing the pain. Just stay relaxed and love the pain, why I can't just love the pain and allow it to ruin my happiness? Sure it's hurting a lot, but if I do this at some point I may transcend suffering from physical pain and go to the next level in my spiritual journey... Wish me luck! ??

Interesting, But that's the ego-self! Imagine you reach a state of consciousness which you transcend the ego-self unconditionally love yourself, with or without a body! ?

How did you end up realizing that? Did you just get an insight into the source of the pain by concentration?

Interesting! Thanks! ?? I'll check these out.

I don't wanna burn myself like that monk, but I see value reaching that transcendent state of consciousness, I want to keep being happy & peaceful no matter what happens to my body. I don't think the monk was in a hellish experience while he was in fire, I think he was free from any kind of suffering including physical pain.

but Ego avoid pain and seeks pleasure while God equally love pain and pleasure, I just don't know how one can practically get near to that state which you become more and more ok and stay peaceful while experiencing intense pain. like this monk: at my current state it's literally unpractical to be like that while I'm in intense stomach, liver pain forget about the firing monk. Thanks! I'll check it out.

Ignorant and unconscious way of living?

it's really really though man, like the pain can get so intense like the way I experienced it today you kinda shift into an altered state of consciousness, you don't know anything anymore! you don't care about anything anymore! all you care about is getting relief from the pain. btw the peace after the paint is gone is so beautiful.

I've been trying to heal myself with spiritual tools and energy healings, still no luck!

@Someone here Eating a plant is as immoral as eating an animal don't you think so? both has life both has consciousness.

I don't know if it's just me or not, but Leo in his latest vlog post doesn't look that healthy and happy, I'm curious to know how he is doing these days after the last few months of being on carnivore diet and all that?! Any news?

try to stop everything including thought process for a few moments try to sit still and just be, now try to find the ego! try as hard as you can, if you do this with intensity you'll realize that no matter how hard you try you just can't! ego is not an entity! ego is the consequence when the light of awareness (you) is not there. so ego won't do anything since it doesn't really exist!

What was his reasons for not getting vaccinated?

So In the Joe Rogan podcast with Elon Musk (I think the first one), I remember he claimed that one of the revolutionary feature of the interface would be that you can save and restore a state of mind with it! What's does it mean? Well it basically means that eventually you can save a state of your mind exactly the way you are experiencing it and later restore that state, like if you are experiencing that experience now! For example a experience of being in a festival music, a stadium, even an amazing psychedelic trip I'd say! ? and etc..and restore the way you were experiencing it to your current state of consciousness every time you want! It'd be the coolest shit ever right? What's your thoughts on this? If you have done some researches on these interfaces do you think it is really possible?

Can you explain a bit why you do think it's impossible please?

I don't know man, am I on salvia divinorum experiencing another life for some fucking years to eventually wake up and find out I was tripping hard for 10 minutes? Well there's a chance, I think about this sometimes.

@Scholar that make sense! but he is also not a stupid person to just make some claims out of the thin air, also have you seen that monkey video, playing a video game controlling it with his thoughts? That was very very impressive to me! In case you haven't watch this: So with the current speed of development of these interfaces I think we are not that far away from achieving those goals! And I'm kinda optimistic about Musk's claims!

@Scholar But if I remember correctly, Musk claimed that we are a few years (about 5 years) away from these to happen! Even things like transfer of thoughts directly to others through the device! Why are you so skeptical about this? What's your reasons?

@James12345 experiencing what is, doesn't need a thought process! You don't need to believe about an "I" to observe, see, hear or basically experience! You don't have to learn about experience to experience.

I didn't say all that so you can become a believer in God, I was an atheist in the past also, if you are in the right mental situation then it's not a bad idea to take some psychedelics and experience God, God is to be experienced not to be taken as faith or belief for sure.

simply because consciousness doesn't exist as a material thing which you take it and install it on a robot and boom somehow magically the whole system becomes self-aware, know what I mean? if you think somehow in someways dead matters can cause consciousness you are a materialist!

well, lets put some DMT (consciousness) on a rock (consciousness) to figure this out directly! what do you think would've happen?

I don't have experience with Salvia divinorum but I've read about people's experience in this forum, taking Salvia and experiencing becoming inanimate objects like a table, a rock etc. it's good if we ask them how was it experientially .

sure that robot is also consciousness, but same as a rock, he cannot awake to his own true nature. though infinity experiencing itself in all finite forms including that robot, that doesn't necessary mean infinity can awake to his own true nature in all finite forms.

humans cannot force infinity to incarnate into bunch of wires! only infinity can do incarnate and he himself actively sustain his own life in that avatar with his infinite intelligent! Sadhguru also talked about this in this video: