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This is actually really simple to conclude in an expanded enough state. If you get a photograph of Albert Einstein, say for instance up on your phone, you can absolutely realise your imagining your phone, including everything on it, including the photo your looking at of Albert Einstein. Therefore realising that you’ve completely imagined Einstein. The photograph is imaginary in the moment, was never actually taken in the past, in some other place at some other time, it’s just the layers of imagination built on top of each other in the moment type thing, create that solidified realism of Einstein. In every possible way you imagine Einstein to be. It’s pretty straightforward actually, but at the same time so shocking and difficult to unravel. Infact you don’t unravel it, it just unravels itself from a higher state. From this state, it’s almost impossible to see through, and that’s the point. But a lot easier to understand when in this state, once realised from a higher state

@Tim R Spot on. Not directly connected to this question, but I had a dream within a dream last night. I went to bed in the dream, fell asleep and astral projected from that supposed sleeping dream body, so became lucid as I knew was astral projecting, fucked about a bit went on some travels. Reawakened from the projection back into the dream body. Convinced it was real life, lost my lucidity and became wrapped up in the dream again convinced it was reality. Only then to awaken in my bed this morning into this reality. Gobsmacked I’d fallen for it. Then lay there for a few minutes gobsmacked at the fact I’m now falling for this too?. And still falling for it now as I type out this. As this is now what feels real. Previous awakenings enable me to know this is not the case. But I’m still locked in it because as Leo says, I’m imagining it so fucking hard. Out of ego’s control

The more I’ve thought about this book, the more of a near on impossible task it seems. I mean you can listen to a good audiobook that takes 14-15 hours to complete. That’s a decent sized pretty in depth book for most. Just watching 4 or 5 of Leo’s videos takes you to that sort of length. And 4 or 5 of Leo’s videos would not even scratch the surface of what I’d imagine he’d like to communicate through a book, as in no where near. He’s got hundreds of lengthy videos, and even still through them he’s so much more he wants to communicate. A satisfactory book I’d guess from his perspective to get across entirely what he wants to express would literally have to be like the fucking bible, longer probably. Or otherwise it’s likely to be missing so much of what he wants to write and communicate through it. That is some task for one man. Fair play if he pulls off a book that matches his standards of depth when it comes to this stuff. Id be thinking once he settles into seriously writing this thing he may very well take an extended break from releasing videos. Which would be totally understandable. I wouldn’t be expecting anything to soon I’ve a feeling it may take a very long time to execute it properly. Maybe it’ll happen in a series of books, rather than just one mega thing. That could possibly work. Who knows

That is terrifyingly interesting

It’s a difficult one this one I havnt quite grasped yet. To say POV suggests some form of thinking mind, which a rock clearly doesn’t have. So a rock isn’t just sat there on the road thinking I’m a rock. No sense of self, not a conscious agent. So in the sense we think of a POV that sentient beings have, a rock definitely doesn’t have one. But on the other hand, there’s a structure to a rock, it has an energetic structure to it, it’s made up of atoms, minerals or what have ya. So I would imagine that consciousness would have to take on that particular structure, from within. Therefore actually being a rock. The POV not being that of a knowing POV like a being, but of a particular feeling of energy type thing. Feeling seems like the wrong word. Like just some kind of condensed energy. But consciousness would have to be that rock, for the rock to be. I’m totally speculating here. Personally no experience but i have contemplated it. I’d suggest that those who have taken salvia may have more of an idea on this subject. A lot of them report becoming a particular object. Leo’s mentioned coffee table a lot in the past, and I saw someone on the forum a while back talking about becoming a Pepsi can?. So I’d guess there’s very likely something in it. Ive no doubt it’s discoverable though if you can go deep enough

I just sat on a plane, looking out the window for a couple of hours. And listened to Leo’s episode ‘what is truth’. Just sat there, listened. I’d forgotten how good that episode was. If you listen to that, and you get it in the moment, then this question you ask, doesn’t even become a question. That episode is a thing of beauty when taken in in the right moment. Wonderful

Question is though, do you actually fundamentally realise this? Or is it a surface level thinking of it being the case? If you were genuinely conscious of it during the moment, I’d be very surprised that you’d be posting on here about it at the same time. That would be the last thing on your mind

It’s the same mind set way of thinking, same frame of mind as becoming delusional about conspiracy theories. The process is the same the ego is working in the same manner, only the deception is of a ‘great awakening’ having a marvellous outcome rather than the usual seemingly disastrous outcome of a conspiracy theory. The same game is at play. These people are no more awake than your delusional conspiracy theorist. In short, they’re full of shit!

Cloud cuckoo land you pair

I remember years ago I watched a show where the lottery numbers were predicted. It was a Derren Brown show. Used no form of manifestation or spirituality he doesn’t believe in any of that he thinks is bullshit. Can’t remember exactly how he done it but it seemed seriously impressive. Never ever did quite work out if it was a fiddle or not. No spirituality with his methods though and he openly admits that. He’s a master manipulator and he’s all about manipulating the mind, from a materialist perspective. Does some extraordinary feats by manipulation. The lottery was a little different though I think there was a lot of math used. As I say good few years ago now so can’t remember. But you should look it up and give it a watch

Literally one of the easiest things to accomplish. Simply throughout the day, have a look a your hand for about 10-15 seconds. Just become aware that the construct of your hand is stable. It’s a hand with 5 fingers, count the fingers if ya like. Look away from it, or close your eyes for a few seconds and look back at it. See again that the hand is the same, stable, with no change to its features or whatever, it seems the exact same thing you were just looking at. The stability of this helps you recognise that your in your ordinary life, or maybe just a much more stable dream ?. Anyway, do this about 10 times a day or so. Inevitably, eventually, when in a night dream you’ll do this during the dream, you’ll look at your hand, and concentrate a little, but within about 5 seconds, your hand will morph in some form, a few fingers may start to collapse, or you might grow an extra finger or whatever, right in front of your very eyes. That’s your cue, that’s when you’ll realise, fuck me, this is a dream. You’ll become lucid. Then it’s down to you to hold the dream, to stay in it. There many degrees of lucidity, from just controlling your own self in the dream with the narrative still playing out, to controlling the entire dream itself. The list of what you can do is endless, in a sense you could say it’s infinite. Becoming lucid is one thing, the degree to how lucid is another. But it’s very easy to gain that first experience. Then you can go from there. I learned this years ago and I’d say that technique took me about month before it manifested in a dream and I became lucid for the first time. There’s loads of books that’ll give ya all sorts of advice on how to make the best of being lucid. I read a few but decided it was best to navigate in my own way. Either way, upto you what you do. But I did and still do to a certain extent find it a useful method of investigating reality itself. But that is something for you to learn for yourself. It is that easy though and I reckon within a month, you’ll be lucid. Good luck with that have fun

I think you may mis-read your mate a little. You say he always takes others point of view into consideration and doesn’t fall in to the trap of trying to be always right yet he considers spirituality to be bullshit. This reeks of close mindedness. Just because he’s never satisfied unless he can see how a materialistic construct works, doesn’t make him receptive to other points of view. He may listen, but something tells me his ego will think his point of view is ‘right’. Needing introduced to spirituality in itself shows this, if he was open minded enough he’d have begun investigating himself. Coincidentally I’m re-listening to Leo’s 3 part series on the deconstruction of science. Some of his best work really hits the spot. I’d suggest you have this scientific mate have a watch of that to get his mind spinning, then maybe he’ll open up to the thought of some spirituality and possibly psychedelics

This better be a good video tomorrow leo if your releasing one because this Godzilla guy has lost the plot?. Has been humouring me of late onto everything ? heads gone???

I am absolutely gobsmacked by this. $1600! I literally had exactly the same issue, had the mole removed just 2 days ago. Same shit said it’ll be sent to a lab as he said that’s just the general process with these sorts of things although there’s highly likely nothing to be concerned about. But they do it anyway. No fees just all done through the nhs, infact I’d be surprised if I ever hear anything about it ever again. You Americans get totally scammed with anything and everything within the medical field. Uk nhs proves that empirically. $1600!! Amazing. Stunned

Actually I do have one. I don’t have a YouTube account so I’ll ask you Leo to put this to Curt. Langan said if it’s not ctmu it doesn’t count and anyone who says otherwise then Curt should just assume it lies. So ask him directly does he think your full of shit because langan said so? Langan was good, his theory was good, added up, but he’s never awoke, ever, the whole ctmu is intellectual. And langan said do not believe anyone who goes against ctmu. And Curt said ok. So there’s a question for u to ask him

No questions mate. The guy seems a really good interviewer will no doubt ask 2-3-4 hours worth of questions himself. You just go with it go with the flow. It’s that simple. Likely to be one of the, if not the most eye opening interviews that I’ll have ever been privileged to witness. Looking forward to it??

Before you were born? This is half the issue. You’ve tricked yourself that there was a before you were born. There wasn’t. The whole thing is made up. And it’s soooo difficult to accept that you don’t believe it. Hence why you are here believing it. I am the same. If I truly and utterly dropped it, I wouldn’t be here. But I am. So the answer to that is enlightenment. I can be me but enlightened. But even still, if I’m enlightened I’m still separate to some degree. You either give up the whole thing, and become completely God, completely infinite, or you stick about as a limited being. You have to give yourself up to truly become yourself. It’s sounds so painful but it’s absolute beauty. The true and absolute realisation of what you are. I’ve been in these states, but I won’t lie I can’t stay in those states. Death is the release of those limits. The limits are the limits, you move your arm, but in a limited way, your leg, it’s still limited. For god to do anything at all it has to limit itself. It can’t run if it’s infinite, so it will limit itself as usain bolt to run real fast. But consciousness knows what it’s doing, when it creates a usain bolt, or a you. It needs to compare itself against itself, it needs to take itself on. No ‘one’ is any better than another. Of course an ego will think it’s better, or worse, but it is actually the exact same thing. This is what Leo means. But people don’t get it. Neither do I fully. But I do know that I am Leo, and Leo is me, and every other human that has, does, and possibly could ever exist. Apologies @Leo Gura this will probably play into that adeptus blokes hands??‍♂️ But ya know, ya either get it, or ya don’t ??

I do think it varies from person to person. Personally I tend to go through phases. Over a period of 5-6 months I’d trip deeply once every 3 weeks or so. Then I’d find myself taking a break of 5-6 months to truly try and integrate my discoveries and realisations. When doing them more frequently I use the few weeks in between to integrate for sure, but can find myself awakening to many different facets which I then feel it necessary to take a bit of an extended break to really think through everything and try to put together the different aspects of realisations and sift through any potential delusions I may be encountering from my baseline state once the ego mind is fully back in the game. But this happens pretty automatically in the sense I can’t seem to go 10 minutes without somehow thinking about consciousness and reality and trying to understand just exactly what’s going on. But I can be a little counter productive at times as when the ego hasn’t been broken down for a stretch of 5-6 months I can sense it sometimes trying to co opt some of my realisations. As my meditation skills are far from great it’s difficult to make much progress through meditation on my breaks from psychedelics, even though during an awakening I can understand clearly how I should meditate, it still becomes more difficult again once back to baseline. Currently been about 6 months or so I think 5 or 6 something like that, and am ready to go more regularly again and deepen my understandings and get the ball rolling again. Not at all am I saying this is the way it should be done, but it’s been a comfortable way for me to approach it where it doesn’t interfere too much with my survival needs and my day to day working life. But the aim is to go all the way, right to the very heart for total understanding of the myself and the universe, same thing actually but I want to know it all. At 38 I’ve time on my side though so I’m pretty happy with my progress so far. I feel a very stable type character so obviously I understand my ways wouldn’t be for everyone. Would be too much for some and too little for others. So yea I don’t think there’s one right way. Whatever works for each individual and it’s up to the individual to work out for themselves in a sensible manner what works for them without sending them over the edge

I can’t really help you with your paranoid ways with all the conspiracies abouts these vaccines as I’m not particularly prone to being taken in by conspiracy theories and I personally am of the view anti vaxers are seriously deluded. But that aside from my own decision to get the vaccine, AstraZeneca too, since I’ve had the full dose both injections the 2nd about a month ago I felt no after affects from either at the time, my health seems as good as it’s ever been so far in the short term and I fully expect it to remain so in the long term. Certainly in relation to the vaccine anyway

I’ve noticed in a few of Leo’s videos he mentions past lives from time to time. Not much just a brief comment but never really goes in depth with it. But I really struggle with the notion of past lives, or at least from the point of view it commonly presented. I just can’t get in line with it, feel it’s a complete fiction, absolutely delusional. The claims of ‘ i was this in a past life’ or ‘ I was that’. I can’t wrap my mind around it as every life there’s ever been and ever will be you are it. So the claims of some clown saying he was a man beaten to death or a slave or whatever in a past life to me just doesn’t stack up. Of course you were because you’ve been and are all lives. So how and why do people try point out one particular life story, or a few? And claim that was them, but another life wouldn’t have been them. Also no one ever says they were anything positive in a past life, it’s always some negative scenario. Riles me it does it really does. I feel it’s just an ego delusion, a made up story by the ego to make it feel as though it itself is immortal, has lived before and will live again, and always and forever. I’m no expert, far from it, so I’m completely open to anyone correcting me or giving me a new angle to see this through

It’s all well and good to be god realised 24/7 or in the present moment 24/7, or feel that constant god connection or however ya want to put it. That would be great I’m sure, and I’m certainly not there. But self inquiry and meditation and all that no matter how good one may be at it, personally I’m not great. But all that is in my opinion of no comparison to the deep psychedelic states you can induce to be able to even realise how your constructing physical reality itself, even people. The sort of process that’s going down in this construction of things. And how imagination is spiralling around you creating a past and so on. I’m not convinced at all there’s any other methods that can help one reach them type of states. So I don’t at all see it as a dead end. There’s more interesting things than just being in a state of God realised 24/7

No your wrong mate. That’s projection. Awakening is the collapse of all this. I don’t know where you think your at with awakening. But wherever and whatever it is. It’s not that. You somewhere down the line have cottoned on to some projections or something of some sort. You are not awake. There’s no way. I appreciate that you’ve had mystical experiences. But nope, sorry lad, you ain’t enlightened as u think u are. Keep seeking man cus u ain’t there ?? X

Nahm will be able to back you up because your ego is well and truly co opted this to the point you think there’s a separate nahm to back you up. Enjoy your trip???

Still get the feeling that most of these type posts I see of it’s all me, I’m god, is just ego. The ego me. I. Not seeing enough from anyone that this me they’re talking about is anything other than the ego ‘I’. Seems too many people think they’ve got it when they don’t. As in nowhere near. We wouldn’t be chatting this shit if we got it

I wouldn’t necessarily go as far as say THEY LIE. As Leo says there self deception is always operative, it’s always potentially at play. But your claim as to ‘they lie’ is of your own personal memories, so your ego still seems very much in the game in that situation. They don’t directly lie as such when investigating the nature of reality itself. You can certainly misinterpret, that’s for sure. But what you’ve got to remember when it comes to the relative, your own personal memories, is that from an absolute sense none of them are true. There’s much more chance of self deception when it comes to investigating your own personal life than when investigating what reality is in itself. Just absolute truth. Hopefully that makes sense