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Yeah but then what you gonna do with your life post awakening? Not everyone wants to become a monk or teach, find what YOU want to do with your life.

@Nahm There is no you that gets finished of course, what we mean by 'finished' is a complete end to seeking and full feeling of coming 'Home.' Even if there is the slightest urge to go further or to seek, follow it would be my advice to everyone on here.

@Jkhv1 From what I know, it should you be telling them You're finished, not someone telling you, ananda always asks me how do I feel as well as doing the LOC herself, like last call I simply told her I wasn't finished....next call might be different though always remember you're your own guru bro.

@Gneh Onebar I’m glad to hear and it only gets better from here man, the more you stabilise yourself in the now, the more your life will be an enjoyment of spontaneous joy no matter whatever is happening

@Scholar I don’t think he’s reached deeper levels of embodiment and integration. Go read Ramana and Nisgardatta for the deepest levels possible. however in terms of insights who knows, he takes a lot of psychedelics which not many people have done before, but at the end of the day it’s about 24/7 level of awareness.

@MAYA EL @Jed Vassallo I’d like to put a counter argument here. I get the teachings are there, but for a lot of people they won’t help that much, there’s so many out there who’ve been seeking for 40-50+ years and still don’t get it. I would also argue once you awaken to The Self, and realise all are you, you want nothing more than to help people in any way you can, and what greater way than to help them end their suffering? while I also agree a limited amount of people can make videos and write books etc, I feel a more efficient method exists in working 1-1 with people on their unique awakening process and then also using transmissions as part of this teaching. that is what worked for me, and without the 1-1 intervention I’d still be a hardcore seeker for sure, stuck in my mind.

@Gneh Onebar I’m happy for you man, I also believed it was all BS beforehand, goes to show what an open mind and trying things for yourself can do, best thing I ever did @Visionary someone here who gets it is nice to see silence is and always has been the highest teaching, Ranana created inquiry for those not ready for the silence, to lead tbem to where? Silence of course. @Raptorsin7 Every teacher will have their own style, Ananda loves the enneagram so strongly uses it in her teachings, however others may not, I’m 90% sure Ramaji does but not to the same extent I don’t believe, he’s an awesome teacher and I loved his books though, hope the session goes well, so let me know

@V-8 I would like you to answer from your direct experience instead of quotes, your current direct experience of reality:) and whether you are happy?

Well done bro, that’s an awesome insight. i often used to ask what’s the purpose of life etc, always I instantly answer now to be happy, enjoy this experience and have fun. awakening makes us independent and gives us the ability to think for ourselves and do what WE want, not what society or are parents want for us, but what makes us happy (on a human level) as we are absolutely happy, and have no need to succumb to certain expectations of us, and it’s all coming from love, which makes it even more beautiful

I would say look beyond experiences, while great, integration and embodiment are what matter. living life moment to moment as a spontaneous flow is what has made my year special, living life knowing everyone is merely an expression of The Self, and is me is what has transformed my life. Living life fully embedded in the Now, whatever that may be is what has revolutionised my experience. If you’re looking for experiences what helped me most was RASA, and working with a teacher 1-1, but what matters most to me is truly embodying it and feeling like I’ve been reborn again compared to my level of conscious awareness this time last year (mild depression and avid overthinker).

Awesome post bro, it’s always this and always will be THIS. you know the mind doesn’t exist right, only thoughts ?

@Bill W LOL, don't worry mate, I'm only responding as I've been discussing privately with him recently and to be honest, I've had some chats with a few people about it and he comes across very strange, let's put it like that. Certain things he said didn't sit well with me, but I didn't know if that was because I was being naive or if he was using his knowledge and age to act superior, to be honest I still don't know and am not really bothered. What I do know, is this year has been incredibly transformations in terms of my direct experience of reality and level of awareness so to speak (language always fails here), so to have my direct experience be called a mindfuck and 'Neo-Advaita Dogma' didn't sit well with me, hence asking 'other awakened beings' as I know their paths are VERY different from mine It is likely due to the limitations of language but I just didn't believe certain things said were true such as the first 6 SD stages are all pointless and bullshit, the absolute doesn't include anything relative (lol), meditation is completely pointless, Transmissions are BS, basically any relative activity except this work is childs play, My direct experiences aren't that. Obviously these are huge claims to make to someone, so I wondered if I was being unfair that's all I just remember being a seeker and if I would've read stuff like that a year ago it would've played on my mind and made me spiral into non stop overthinking, so certain info can be very dangerous when certain people read it, I'm lucky now I have the ability to actually think for myself, and use my own experience as my vantage point, instead of mere concepts and books etc, but not everyone can yet, as I couldn't just 9 months ago.

@Bill W yeah I get how it looks. it wasn’t to “gang up” as such, more to see if I was missing something/ being blind as he’s made some bold claims towards me, and I’m of course biased to my teachers and awakenings, as well as my own direct experience, I’ve gone about it wrong but I was more asking whether I am completely wrong and missing something. im sorry if it came across that way and that is far from my intention at all. just being told your awakening experiences are complete BS, you’re at stage blue and that your teachers are complete shit doesn’t always sit too well with me, also being told if I eventually become a teacher using what worked for me I will get bad karma didn’t sit well with me either, also using Jed McKenna to disprove masters like Ramana didn’t make sense. also, being told I’m being mind fucked and the happiness and peace That is now stablaized, is only temporary and illusory and that it is all neo-Advaita dogma, similar to traditional religion, these are not small claims, therefore, of course I’m going to investigate whether I am genuinely missing something here, see where I’m coming from more so? I am genuinely intrigued to see if I’m missing something or being too harsh, but from the 5+ people I’ve contacted regarding it it seems like I wasn’t. sorry again if it seems like that, at the end of the day he’s questioning the whole foundation of this forum regarding non-duality and modern teachers (including Leo) therefore I wanted to be thorough in my discussions, maybe I’ve come across too strong who knows. it was not to do with corners but to genuinely ask perspective from a range of people on here, as my perspective is 1 perspective, and as I said will of course have forms of self bias, Leo, Nahm etc have had different paths to awakening hence me asking them to see if I am genuinely wrong.

@Leo Gura Leo coming in clutchhhhhhh, this guy has also told me the Absolute DOESNT include anything relative at all, when in fact “duality” is merely an expression of The Self, and EVERYTHING is the absolute.

@Inliytened1 @Inliytened1 Yeah all beliefs and concepts need to be dropped I 100% agree. However, he feels everyone is a Neo-Advaitan ?

@Nahm @Leo Gura @VeganAwake @Jkhv1 @Haumea2018 I’m interested to hear your guys thoughts on the statement “Non-Duality isn’t enlightenment” as well as the many many other quotes this guy has said, I genuinely am intrigued to hear others opinions, as I might be being biased (And anyone else, I genuinely can’t remember many usernames to tag, preferably those with awakening experiences/ awakenings)

@Haumea2018 Check this out, I’ve never seen someone more obsessed with spiritual knowledge and concepts and models. @V-8 you never answered my question- are you happy?

Art quite literally is everything. it isn’t just drawing a picture. Creation is an art and therefore everything in creation is a form of this art, from the bodybuilders to the best painters of all time, from those building billion dollar companies to those protesting global warming. All of this is a form of art, therefore, creation is quite simply nothing other than art. Go into nature and see how nature takes care of everything it needs to in a perfectly flowing system, do you not see how this is art? You may then ask what about Earthquakes, volcanoes etc, naturally occurring ones are necessary for the overall system to thrive, so yes even these are forms of Art. Of course, relatively speaking, not all art is created equally, but even this forum, this message, these words are all forms of Art. Find your medium, and go enjoy it!

@VeganAwake I like her? It’s a paradox the mind wi never understand, lucky the mind doesn’t actually exist I guess!

Arriving home. being stabilised in absolute peace and happiness, the unshakeable absolute. then what you might ask? Go be happy, enjoy life and have fun, as your heart desires in each moment

@VeganAwake yessss exactly I’m glad we finally got there Literally everything feels so normal again, yet it will never be the same, hard to put into words. Everything is ordinary, yet the ordinary has become the extraordinary, and every moment provides boundless joy. So while it’s the same, it will never be like before, but it feels like home. Beyond duality and non duality, just THIS as it is, and it is beautiful isn’t it

@VeganAwake No I am trying to describe what is beyond both duality and non duality in terminology you are familiar With but I cannot do it, maybe this passage will help explain. The absolute is beyond Non-Duality, beyond duality and is just this as you, but This includes absolutely everything, which after all is just the Self.

@VeganAwake yeah it’s just language. I personally think it’s more than just conditioning, while I no longer identify with the character and the knowing knows myself As The Self, I am just saying each human has a personality. the best term I have heard is “Transcendental Individuality” you know there’s no “you” at your core, but let’s say it’s awareness expressing itself through the vehicle of a human, as a play, for the fun of it yes there is merely awareness/ The Self looking at the Self or awareness at all times, as I keep saying all there is is The Self. Maybe I over emphasised the human dimension, I was merely stated it seems to be neglected in most non dual circles, kind of transcended or negated, which I just wanted to emphasise I do not support 1 bit. All I will say is when you go full circle, Duality is not an “illusion” as such, more that The Self as all there is so Duality is no longer a problem to be solved and is instead all is seen as The Self therefore why negate something that is literally your very own Self, why not embrace and enjoy it instead? Sorry im just not fond of the word illusion, but you are not wrong, it just goes deeper in my experience

@purerogue I'm not saying to go out and dig through everything, but it's likely shit will arise, and as it does, dealing with it then is what I mean, that's all For some, they may need less/ little work, or most may be done before awakening, all I am saying is for many things do arise post awakening that is all. Also, if you don't deal with things like Trauma that can't wreak havoc. As I said I was luckier than many in terms of Trauma and my childhood in this lifetime. @VeganAwake When I say life begins, I mean I would rather life 1 day in these peace and happiness, than 10 days how I was just a year ago, nothing compares to the radical acceptance of each and every moment and spontaneously enjoying whatever arises next. You are correct, when you investigate your thoughts, feelings and sensations, what is at the centre- Space/ Awareness/ Whatever you want to call the many names for the absolute. I feel complete, whole and fulfiled, that is exactly what I mean by life truly begins. It's like I'm a completely different person, reborn again as The Self. You're right THIS IS It, and it's beautiful. But in this, is this world and 'others' and guess what THIS Includes them and ALL aspects of duality, duality is the Buddha itself, This planet is heaven, is Nirvana, is complete freedom. Not some special place out there, but THIS right now. All I was attempting to point to was to not neglect the human dimension, while you are alive, you are still a Human as well. I am NOT saying there is a self at the centre but it can SEEM like there is. What I merely mean is you will still have a personality and be more 'VeganAwake' (idk your real name) than ever before. If anything everything will be richer and more intense than before. This has also taught me to be more careful with words and express myself better which is hard.

@Spiral Wizard Yes, no answer with words will ever be correct, they are all concepts, that's why no word could ever utter the ultimate truth, and all words are pointers and tools, same as books and videos and whatever other medium is being used. Also, inquiry is an all day affair 24/7 until you arrive at the unbreakable silence. This link will get deleted but this book is like $6 on Kindle, only problem with Ramana for newbies is they struggle to add context to the eastern teachings, plus a translation can never be 100% perfect (e.g. Buddha never said not to desire, yet look at how common knowledge that is!) https://www.amazon.com/Who-Meditation-Self-Inquiry-Self-Realization-Tradition-ebook/dp/B00OZYIXE2/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 @Guru Fat Bastard thanks mate