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@cistanche_enjoyer It's not just Awakening, right? Financial independence isn't only linked to Awakening for me, maybe not at all. I don't really plan to earn lots of money to be able to Awaken or something, I already got resources to do that. People have done it with few resources, as you said. It's about providing for myself and my family without too much survival pressure-cooker stress. But again, there must be better and more effective ways to Awaken (even for temporarily) then doing 1 hour of Kriya Yoga for 20 years, from what I've observed from other people's experiences.

@cistanche_enjoyer So you are telling me that it's more likely to awaken using 1-2 hour of Kriya Yoga (according to Lahiri) while you handle family, fulltime job, debt, responsibilities, house-chores, kids, etc, then to awaken with all the time in the world, all the resources that you'd need, and desire to know Truth?

@Natasha Tori Maru Is there going to be 3rd part as well? I think they just mentioned a 2nd part in the intro.

It was a nice conversation, it's actually quite refreshing, after watching lots of Leo's videos, to then watch people question it, then you get a sense of how an outside perspective would look at it, helps with standing outside of it yourself too. I see those people are struggling to get out of their human-centric point of view, which is really hard for me too, because it crosses the line of life and death itself, and it comes down to Truth being above death, because whatever death is, it's true is a sense that it's existence. It's hard to take existence's perspective over matters that can end up killing you. I think that was behind the hesitation of that Gestapo example that girl had. Excited for the second part, I think the juicy discussion of bad vs good is coming next 😂

Humor, confidence, wittiness maybe. Ability to being vulnerable.

@cistanche_enjoyer I'd like to have a free time just to live without pressure and expectations, I think lots of money would allow that, at least for some time. So, the first thing is less stress and anxiety, because daily job comes with those two. Second, I'd pursue my own creative projects more freely, because when you work full-time and have some other things going as well, it's very hard to do that, realistically. Pursuing spirituality more seriously. Now I can't just take a month off from work to go and meditate for a month straight. I can't just go and take psychedelic journeys freely because what if those destabilize me and I'm not able to work for some time? It would create issues, maybe I lose my job which supports me and my family, you know, that kind of stuff. Yeah but to get to understanding God when you have 0 idea what that refers to, and if you aren't genetically gifted that you see God by default, you need to design a lifestyle that allows it, you must not be in a survival pressure cooker all the time. You can be, and still pursue it, I don't say it's not possible, we're just talking about in what ways having lots of money would make things easier logistically at least.

@Judy2 I also have that, and as people told to me, I've to stick with it for at least couple months to gain some momentum with the practice. Doing it here and there doesn't allow the mind and body practice enough to then make it more engaging / interesting, less-agitating. I think we just have to bite the bullet and sit through the agitation over and over and over again, day in day out, and that will recondition the mind a bit over months. Or else this agitation issue won't resolve itself.

@Natasha Tori Maru Yeah, do you think he will order any disclosure? I just watched this, and they show an interview with a neurosurgeon who reportedly spent 3–4 minutes with the Varginha alien and was able to communicate with it telepathically. The interview also appears in the new documentary, where he tears up while recalling the experience. He said there was so much compassion and love in its eyes that he had never seen anything like it before. They also claim that many people signed NDAs and that, if Trump were to protect them and release them from those agreements, they would publicly reveal everything.

@Natasha Tori Maru I don't think he meant that he's seen one, he just said that there must be one as the universe is so large. Btw, I wasn't aware that there is a new documentary called Moment of Contact: New Revelations of Alien Encounters (2025), anyone who liked Moment of Contact (2022) should watch it. I'm about to watch it now. It's on Amazon Prime.

@cistanche_enjoyer For me the reason is that if I do that, I won't have to wage-slave my way into 30s, 40s, 50s, etc. And be free with my own time and resources. That has like an infinite value.

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Hey, Do you ever feel the need for more variety in your sex life when you’re in a long-term relationship? I’m not talking about cheating or polyamory, but about that feeling that sex can become mechanical or boring after years with the same person. Especially if you were inexperienced and didn’t date much before, you might become curious about other types of experiences with women / men (if you are a woman). Is the solution to explore and exhaust that need before committing to a long-term relationship? Or is it to suppress it and be content with what you have? Or maybe the answer is to spice up the current relationship by introducing some novelty into your sex life. What do you think? Does it make sense to have one partner and expect them to satisfy your needs for the rest of your life?

@Judy2 Maybe they just tough it out. What's the longest that you have run? For me it was 17km, and boredom wasn't an issue because something was happening every minute, if you try to notice the condition of your body, your breathing patterns, the current challenge (maybe slights uphill on the road), that makes more engaging. But aside to that, just accepting the boring part of it as well. Just imagine someone like David Goggins, or Andy Glaze or some ultrarunner who run days, not hours, there can't be any technique that they can use, maybe they start labelling colours for some hours but I can't imagine doing that for 40 hours or more. Maybe they just tough it out and that's where their strength is.

@Judy2 What I do is, if I have a long run like 10km (or even a short one), I split that distance into multiple chunks, like I roughly know a run around this block takes me 15 minutes, okay, then comes a long road that needs 20 minutes, and then a small uphill that's a bit tough for 10 minutes, etc, till the end of a run. That keeps it engaging because instead of full one hour+ goal, I have small 5-15 minute goals in my mind that I need to accomplish. Also, if you have smartwatch, you can track your pace, and try to improve in some way on each run, that also makes it more engaging. Not sure about treadmill though, it's boring for me as well. I have a treadmill at home and I just turn on some video on YouTube plus some music to keep the run engaging.

@Oeaohoo Yeah, as most of us have.

@Oeaohoo But it is a strong force, especially if one is inexperienced in sexuality and curious at the same time. Maybe that gets less important as we age. I mean, you might not want it to be one of top priorities, but you just can't help it. I guess that's where real maturity and cognitive / spiritual development comes into play. And also most people get married rather flippantly, who the fuck thinks about all these deeply before commiting? And then their real needs and motivations come up after years and that's when people get stuck.

@Oeaohoo But how do marriages work. Divorse rates is getting high (probably) each year, but there are couples who sustain marriages right? I mean, most of our parents did. But probably there's lots of variables there, having kids, shared families and relatives, shares liabilities, attachments, etc, that bind two people together, even if they aren't fully satisfied sexually or are fantasizing on other options. I'm just wandering when you are aware of these mechanism and don't lie to yourself about your needs, what's the best way to strategize this aspect of life. My conclusion was to just explore first to some degree, maybe a lot, and see where that takes you, maybe later in life you get a genuine satisfaction even sexually with just one partner for life, and that's it. But maybe not. What do you mean exactly? Soul-level?

@Oeaohoo Do you think that's true? How is it in your experience?

@LordFall I'm not in a relationship at the moment, but when I was, that was my experience from time to time, that I got bored with it and wanted more exploraton, but at the same time I wasn't comfortable with the idea of my partner being with someone else, and as a result I also didn't act on those impulses in any way, but there was some need to have other experiences as well. In the end we broke up for different reasons. I guess one of the latest posts from Leo on sexual satisfacion also plays into this idea well, because that was my experience as well. So I guess you have to exhaust that need first and then accept whatever your partner offers after you consciously commit to him / her and that's it. Plus work on making sex life as best as possible with current partner.

@Leo Gura Regarding your women and satisfaction post: There is a background assumption that the right woman will make us feel complete, it seems that you've deconstructed that fantasy along with the sexual satisfaction thing. But what about the part of sexual intimacy with a woman that's highly emotional, intimate and super hot? That you can't exactly replicate on your own? Do you have some tips on that self-satisfaction thing? Or you just mean watching porn and just plain masturbation. I've got books on bookshelf that teaches some techniques on deepening and lenghtening orgasm, solo full-body orgasm and shit like that. Is that part of what you meant? What purpose do you see in pursuing relationships

@Miguel1 Yeah especially after some months and years when the fantasy fades away more and more and reality hits. If that's the case, what purpose do you see in pursuing relationships? It might be an illustion but watching movies is also an illusion but we still do it right, we deceive ourselves and literal pixels on the screen creates dramatic experience and emotions in us, and we play along. But at the same time we know it's not really that important. Relationships seem more important because they are more tied with many aspects of survival.

Hey, I’ve just recently turned 30, and I’ve never wanted children in my life. Especially as I get older, I’m becoming more certain that it’s not something I need or want. I feel that I still have a lot to do in the areas of spirituality and survival mastery, and having a family—especially children—would be a major distraction from that. I also intuitively feel that I would regret it later in life. The external pressure to start a family and have kids (as a kind of default life path) is also becoming increasingly annoying as I age. What do you think? Do you yourself want or have a family or children? What do you consider a proper reason for having them, aside from pure survival? I do see it as a significant growth opportunity, but at the same time, a major distraction from consciousness work—which, if someone wants to pursue seriously, should probably make them think twice about having kids. I’m especially interested in hearing opinions from women in this community, since culturally the pressure to have children tends to be stronger for women.

@JJfromSwitzerland Yes I'm sure it will. But again, at what cost. As I observe, that question of having kids or not comes down to personality type as well, maybe some people are more suited parenthood then others. @Lyubov What if I have them, and then realize it was a big mistake and I don't want them any more. Will that still be Love?

@LordFall Yea, the thing is, I've never wanted any of that, like some of those things haven't even crossed my mind at least for the last 10 years, I genuinely don't give a shit about having a legacy as children, not sure why but it's what it is. I don't think it's about that, it not about spiritual pursuits only, it's about all the things that I could do instead of putting all that time and resources into family / kids. Those things can vary based of many things but life is full of possibilities. I don't know yet what will be worth more than having children to be honest, but I intuit that's more of a subjective matter, maybe working on my creative projects can have more worth than having children, again that doesn't mean you can't work creatively while being a father, but as I said, I imagine having kids limiting me in lots of ways. None of this means that I won't change my mind in the future, but as of now, I prefer more free lifestyle. Having children has never been in my vision of my dream life for some reason.

@Elliott Why have them at all?