BlackPhil

I think you people from the US might have abit of a distorted view on anyone criticizing these mRNA-shots. I think because you have your crazy gunwaving eveangelical/qanon/trumpists (or whatever you call them), who are "anti-vaxx" by default, you automatically, unconsciously, associate everyone being skeptical to what's happening with those people. I think trying to look past this and being abit open minded to more perspectives would be healthy. Not everyone in the world who are questioning these "vaccines" belong to those groups or have anything else in common with them. I might be wrong, but I get that impression.

Agreed with this too. Feels like many of the teachings just flew out the window the second a small survival threat to the ego showed up. Edit: Many people live in places of the world where alot more dangerous diseases are common place. I don't see these people losing it quite like alot of people do here.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0 https://www.futuremedicine.com/doi/10.2217/fvl-2021-0280 Coming out more and more about the risk of myocarditis (inflammation of the hearth muscle) among other things from the "vaccines". If you dig into the first study (and compare with other covid statistics) you will find that especially the Moderna vaccine has around double the risk of myocarditis than the virus itself for younger people, and that's only from the numbers that are out so far. Then add booster upon booster ontop of that. Sounds healthy right? A risk worth taking in order to protect yourself from a virus that's close to harmless if you're a healthy person? A protection that only seems to last a few months and is far from waterproof. Neither does it stop the spread, which we can clearly see looking at the statistics from the countries with highest amount of vaccination, so the "solidarity" argument clearly doesn't work. Where is the logics? Edit: We've had so many athletes, atleast in Europe, now with hearth problems after taking the mRNA-shots. It's up many many times the amount of previous years. Latest it was a guy in our national football/soccer team who is now on a hearth monitor and can't play. Anyways, if you want to keep injecting this stuff it's up to you. But my advice is that you atleast do some own research before, instead of blindly following authorities in the media. Btw, I'm no "anti-vaxxer" generally. Been travelling alot in my life to tropical places like the Amazon so I've been having many vaccines. These mRNA-shots got nothing to do with classic vaccines, just so you know.

Nice projection. Your post really added alot of "coming together" to the discussion. Sometimes you need to call people out and shake them up abit in order to wake them up from a blunder.

This has nothing to do with left or right. I'm definitely not right wing. I stand as an observer and try to see both sides. You're falling for the divide and conquer tactics that are being used against us, oldest trick in the book. If its not left vs right it's black vs white or man vs woman. Latest thing is "vaxx" vs "anti-vaxx". Can't believe peoples foolishness tbh. Anyways I need to sleep. Not gonna debate more for now.

Even you must have noticed how many times people like Fauci now has provided faulty information, changed his opinion and simply lied? Some of the scientists I mentioned are even more qualified than Fauci to speak about this. Yet the media choose their specific icons/demigods that get all the space while censoring everyone else. It's just the same in my country, we have our own "Fauci" who has also been wrong about just as many things. Still he's almost the only one who get any space in the media while virologs and doctors of a different opinion all have been silenced. Don't you think it's time to see through this charade soon?

If you think that the "elite intellectuals" (infact it's more the richest, most powerful people and companies who pull the strings) have the greatest levels of compassion I genuinely feel sorry for you. I can inform you that most of these people look upon the masses as nothing more than useless eaters and rats. They mainly care about their own profit and power. This has been the case through most of human history. Power and money attracts psychopaths and narcissists. It's unfortunately not yogis running the world my friend.

You only have to look at history aswell as read some psychology. The majority/masses rarely have the wisest opinions and have over and over again been drawn into these kinds of collective-madness's.

All good.

What exactly of what I've been saying has been misinformation? Please be specific. If I see that you, collectively, have been led astray and are uniting (like one huge cult) based upon, what my research and intuition has shown me is false information, manipulation through fear and mindcontrol, then I'm gonna question this like any sane person would. If you personally still refuse to entertain different ideas then that's up to you. Yeah that's the words they try to use in order to discredit these very prominent scientists. The only thing they infact have gotten from speaking out about this has been character assassination, risking their careers aswell as being ridiculed. Not really the things you would strive after if your goal is selfish, political/business agendas, do you think?

If you get irritated by someone questioning your point of view it's an unhealthy thing, and says more about you than what it does about me. And no, not every scientist or medical expert are pro these mRNA-shots. There has been alot of whistle blowers so far. Some of them have been among the most qualified people in the world to talk about this stuff. Robert Malone (one of the inventors of mRNA-technology) is one example. Peter McCullough (one of the most prominent cardiologists in the world) is another. We also have Luc Montagnier (virologist and the nobel-prize winner for discovering HIV). These are just a few examples of a huge amount of experts who has been criticizing this "vaccine". All of them has immediately been censored from all controlled media and had their wikipedia sites changed in order to discredit their person. This censorship says alot about whats happening and also explains why not even more people has dared to speak out.

I'm not questioning peoples general fear of death. I'm questioning the irrationality in pushing for a seemingly endless amount of booster shots of mRNA-tech. If people are doing that because of fear of dying from covid (which has above 99% survival rate for healthy people) I would call that an irrational fear, yes.

Explain how I'm a troll. Is this the normal standard here nowdays? Was a while ago I read here.

Yes it can't get more obvious tbh. I'm not saying what Leo teaches on his youtube channel is a cult. I've also found many of the videos of great value. I'm talking about the whole covid mass-hysteria. But yes, I'm genuinely surprised how people on this forum has simply bought it all. Spiritual people used to be very skeptical of what is being pushed by the mainstream society. Which is a healthy thing to be because our societies are currently operating from a completely wrong paradigm in which materialism, profit and ego goes above most things.

Can barely understand what you're trying to say in any of your posts tbh. You're talking about my post being zero value and then keep posting stuff like this yourself. Not gonna argue more with you, pointless.

"Good luck advertising your pro-death stance to your fellow citizens."

The mRNA-shots has so far more reports of serious adverse effects in my country than the total amount of people treated for covid in intensive care this entire year. And the dark figures are enormous since they only started going through it all, plus the political and social stigma. Everyone criticizing the vaccine gets censored directly.

That's just pure gaslighting and you know it. Doesn't work on me, I'm sorry.

Yes thank you, I'm fully aware I wont be able to reach people like you, no matter what sense I try to bring. Cults tend to work that way unfortunately. It's members/victims are usually immune to any piece of information that goes against what they've been led to believe is the unquestionable truth. Fortunately not everyone is that deep into it yet, so hopefully this doesn't apply to everyone reading.

I live in Sweden, we didn't lock down during this whole pandemic. Almost everyone I know (including myself) has had covid. One or two of them got quite ill and lost their smell for a while but that was it. If this was an effective, well-tested vaccine, that didn't make you sign up for a damn subscription to big-pharma, I would maybe have a different opinion.

This whole thing with the pandemic and the fear-mongering has become alot like a giant cult. A sort of mass-psychosis, so to speak. This is not the return of the Black Death people. And injecting mRNA-technology (which makes your body produce toxic spike-proteins) over and over into your body is not healthy, anyone in their right mind should be able to understand this.

Yeah, can only say the same about yours, my friend.

Jesus christ. Thought "spiritual people" used to be abit more clever and skeptical to the mainstream than this. Unless you are old or very sick you can rely on your own immune system and natural, healthy food and remedies to combat this virus. No need to fill big-pharmas pockets and inject an unnatural, untested mRNA-"vaccine" into your body (not once but over and over), which obviously doesn't stop the spread and only might prevent severe illness for a short period. Omicron is less lethal and more virulent than previous mutations, so best thing is to let it run through the population naturally until it becomes endemic and we achieved herd-immunity. Trying to vaccinate away an ongoing pandemic with "booster" upon booster is just pure madness. Since when did you people become so irrationally afraid of death?

Hi. Im wondering if Leo (or anyone else with insights) has some new takes on the process that occurs after death of the physical body. I am aware of the truth of non-duality. I have had many phychedelic trips, including ego deaths. So there is no doubt in my mind that the final "destination" is that complete lack of self/merge with everything/nirvana/god. When Ive seen Leos videos about the matter I get the feeling that he implies that we will all automatically become infinity when our physical human-selves dies, no matter how spiritually developed we have become during our lifetime (might be me that misunderstood him, thats why I want a clarification). I personally have a hard time buying this (dont get me wrong, I do believe we will all reach that point in the "end" guaranteed, but that could mean an infinity of lifetimes). What I dont believe is that any human ego that dies will go there after each lifetime, no matter how little developed he/she is. I dont think for example a person who has completely negligated/been unaware of spirituality during that individuals lifetime will be able to merge with the infinite when the physical body dies. Perhaps get a flash glimpse of it before getting overwhelmed and popping out as some limited self again that matches his/her development of what the individual can comprehend as some sort of "reality" for the time being. Just like the fact that you can have peak experiences of god when breaking through on psychedelics but at the same time its pretty much unheard of, or atleast extremely rare, that someone manages to maintain what the psychedelic has given you a taste of by yourself when it has faded (even people who use psychedelics like 5meo or similar very frequently with enlightment as goal. To do this you must go through other more challenging practices in order to increase your baseline consciousness aswell as strenghten your ability to remain in those high stages for longer periods (and according to many yogis this process can take many lifetimes of practice. This is not something an everyday person achieve automatically by just doing something so basic that literally everyone can and will do it; meaning killing your physical body. Like a yogi (or munk, cant remember) once answered when asked the question of if it is possible to reach enlightened states using psychedelics: Yes it is possible! But you cannot maintain it, you don't have the strenght! Another factor is that the illusion of our human selves goes deeper than just the physical body. Meaning that we supposedly have a Physical Body, an Etheric Body, an Astral Body, a Mental Body a Spiritual Body and a Cosmic Body. Personally I cant deny or confirm the existance of all those I mentioned there or how correct the terms they have been given there are. But I do have personal experience of atleast the so called astral body and have had since I was a kid. Before I had any concepts of what spirituality, enlightment etc even was I had spontaneous astral projections occuring maybe once a month or so. Many say that astral projection is the same thing as lucid dreaming (and perhaps in a way it is) but whats different for me is that when you astral project while awake you experience the actually separation of you astral body from your physical one. This is accompanied by intense vibrations through your spine and whole body (can even be very painful like getting powerful electric shocks), if you manage to relax when this happens you will most often simply glide out of your physical body (during this whole event you are completely alert and awake) and end up in the astral version of the very same room you were previously sleeping in. Again, the first years of this happening to me as a kid I had no idea what was going on, so this was not something I had any concept of in my head and thereby manifested it. It just happened, and there I was on the astral version of my house and neighborhood where I could fly around etc. Its very dreamlike the whole sensation but at the same time very much clearer and more consistent. Its also populated by entities (often catlike beings for some reason). Sometimes these experiences were beautiful and sometimes quite terrifying since some of the entities populating the astral plane seems aggressive. Not until years later as a teen when I got my hands on some book about Indian mysticism I actually found out this was a real thing being practiced by people for thousands of years. This blew my mind back then btw since I grew up in a secular home with parents who didnt know anything about spirituality (my grandmother had similar experiences tho she told me). Anyways got sidetracked on AP there. My point is that since these other "bodies" actually do "exist" (as imagination ultimately sure, but no less than the imagination of our physical bodies) and make up our selves how do we know that these dies just because our physical body dies? From what Ive heard from yogis and others these bodies actually persist longer, especially if we have stored up "energy" left. All this is pointing against the fact that we would just instantly merge with god after our physical death. Still Ive heard almost nothing from Leo about these things. Dont get me wrong, I find great value in Leos work and Im fully onboard with his conclusions on the ultimate truth etc. And I know psychedelics has an amazing power to take you to these very high states. But at the same time I get the feeling that there is alot of stuff inbetween being overlooked here, things that may be important. And yet again, I know that all this ultimately is imagination like everything else but that doesn't mean we can just ignore it and make it go away, just like we cant imagine away our imaginary walls in our room. These experiences, different astral planes etc seem to be very consistent for everyone who experiences them, just like this reality but with slightly less physical rules. Gods imagined reality definitely has alot of layers to it and I dont think we can just overlook them thinking we got a free-ticket to Nirvana if we choke on our breakfast tomorrow ;)... I mean if everyone is heading to the ultimate after death why would the yogi in Tibet spend his whole life in a hard cave trying to reach enlightment until he finally does it at lets say age 95 if he was going there anyways very soon automatically?

No I didnt pay anything. I was just adviced to do the lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram around my bed area each night before going to bed. You can find instructions on how to do it online easily. You can also buy white sage and burn it in your house daily (same plant shamans often use to keep area clean during ayahuasca ceremony). I also drew a sigil and put it over my bed but unfortunatly I dont remember how it looked because this was years ago. I dont know if thats necessary, but if you want it you can probably also ask on that forum or somewhere else alike and if youre lucky some experienced person there can help you with that. Whats also important is that you try to get in more positive state mentally overall. These kind of entities are drawn to negative energy. I was in a pretty dark stage of my life back then. Combining that with reckless APs or other occult practices is asking for trouble. Do you feel like youre getting possessed by this energy you mean? Or do you experience it as a separate entity from your egoself? For me it never got inside of my body (even if it tried to rip my astral body away from my physical one several times). It manifested like a demonic, beastlike entity in my bed, was nothing you could reason with since it seemed more like a wild animal than anything resembling a human. Was always hard to get a clear look on it because it usually appeared behind me, when dark in my room, while I was unable to move because of the paralysis. It made growling, hissing sounds like a beast straight out of hell, and was like clawing my back causing very painful/uncomfortable sensations in my energy body haha... Fking terrifying stuff. Hope my advice can help. Goodluck! Edit: Also try to not put any more attention on it than necessary. Dont think about it if you can avoid. And stay away from so called Left hand path spirituality (occultism etc), you dont need it for mysticism/right hand path which is the focus of this forum and actualized. Another edit: Not that its necessarily anything wrong or "evil" with left hand path practice, even if some people abuse it for selfish gains. But you need to know what youre doing. Its more risky.