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The rapist knows the truth that he is a rapist in this situation. He would be defending a lie if he were to deflect it back on the victim. You know what you did, you know your sins, so to speak. What the victim needs to do in such a situation is integrate the perpetrator's perspective and get clear on what the truth is. When you do that, you will be able to get a more objective perspective on the whole situation that transcends and includes the perpetrator's perspective. This is a very hard thing to do, this process could take a long time even but this is the only way to get to the truth. Once you have the truth, you will have a lot more credibility in your 'fight for justice' so to speak. One of the biggest problems rape-victims struggle with is self-blame, blaming oneself for it. Which is why they will gaslight themselves into believing that they were to blame for it! Same goes for false accusation situations where the falsely accused starts to question their own reality and be like 'Was that accusation actually true? Why is everyone saying this about me?' The only way to know that is to do your own investigation, get to the truth, maybe take a few ego-hits in the process and communicate the truth to the skeptics.

@intotheblack What we need is a transformation in the way society sees men in general. Especially male sexuality. This will reduce the anti-male biases, which will make the false accusations go down. Which, in turn, will make the real ones more believable and the real criminals more accountable.

Also, to all the people who say that 'Feminism is all good, no bad. How many books have you read on feminism to be talking about it?' Think again. This is a live example of feminism being evil. This is a massive shadow of feminism right here! I don't need to read any books to see this. You do, I don't, because I have experience! Practical experience. To you, I ask - How many times have you been falsely accused? How many times have you held back your authentic expression simply because you were scared of being falsely accused? Huh? This problem is ideologically motivated. It is motivated by hate. Hate towards men. You rely on theory written in books, I'm going to rely on my own practical experience of what actually happens in the world. There's a big difference between theory and practical.

Speaking of mansplaining, isn't it interesting to get womansplained to about something they know nothing about?! It applies the other way around here! It absolutely does. It's very convenient, I'll give them that.

I would like to propose the radical idea here that women also have accountability and it's not always the man's fault.

Have you ever been falsely accused? How do you know it's only 20 lbs compared to 1000 lbs? This is a gross trivialization of the issue. This shows how little society really cares about men and how much the system is geared against you if you are a guy. Everything you just said is proof for why it is a really serious issue that is greatly under-appreciated and how everyone wants to sweep it under the rug. The sexism is real. I'm going to call you out on your unconscious sexism here and how it hurts others. If a false accusation happens, that is fully the woman's fault. No, I'm not going to take any responsibility for that situation at all. She is to blame and that's how everyone should see it. Nobody else is responsible in that situation for the false accusation and how that's going to ruin the guy's life. This is even worse than a crime, because it is a misuse of the system! This is not even a 'crime' because that's recognized by the system. This is systemic abuse against men. The fact that we are having such a hard time condemning it for the evil that it is, is embarrassing. It shows how pussified men have become when it comes to defending themselves and protecting their own and how easy it is for vindictive women to manipulate the whole situation to their ends. Now, though, it is time for some real accountability. Everything you say to deny this reality is going to exacerbate the problem and you are choosing to be part of the problem if you do that.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk. I'm signing off now.

The fact that the system supports this shows the systemic internalized misandry that we have going on here. Fuck yeah! This is what we need to fix in the system!! #SexismAgainstMen

Feminists are, in fact, that ideological about gender. The radical ones are responsible for this situation. They talk as if they're fucking morally superior to men and that it's always 'man bad, woman good'. Of course! This false rape situation is evidence of the bubbling man-hate in feminists. At least the radical ones.

Is it a hate-crime or is it not a hate-crime, because of the woman's anti-male biases and because her biased mind interpreted something that wasn't rape/sexual harassment as such? Is it a hate crime or not? Yes or no? Why aren't we calling out the anti-male biases of the false accuser here? Why does it have to be the man only who works on himself? Why does only the man have to 'fix himself' to protect himself against a hate-crime like that? Is it his fault that he's the victim of a hate-crime? This is victim-blaming!!

False allegation against men is a hate-crime against men. It is the far end of the 'man bad, woman good' narrative. That's what I'm talking about! @Forestluv, if you want a broader context and everyone else looking for the root-cause of the issue, this is it. Man-hate has real victims! Be careful hating men.

Truth is One, Truth is integral. What we need is integration.

You gotta see the truth for what it is. And in the end, the truth always wins.

Projection-land. In a false accusation, do you know who is to blame? Is it the falsely accused? Is it the man? No! It's the woman who falsely accused him. That's who is to blame. End of story! If you're not harassing her and you get accused of harassment, that is a false accusation. No, it's not only the woman's version that matters here! You know the truth of whether you're harassing her or not. It's because you are the doer of the harassment or not! Nobody else can tell you whether it's harassment or not. You know you're not harassing her but nobody else is believing you. That's what it feels like to be a guy in today's date! What you're doing is you are trying to muddy the waters. You are trying to distort the truth of something that wasn't a harassment/rape into it being that way because you are selfish and you have your biases. Check them! It benefits you to keep things unclear and muddy and murky in order to justify your anti-male biases. You rule in a situation where there is confusion and where everyone's confused. You don't want clarity! Clarity threatens you. That's why you say that 'we shouldn't reach a conclusion' or 'If the conclusion you reach doesn't agree with mine, that's wrong'. You know what? Sometimes, you are wrong. Consider that. You thrive in confusion because it helps you not consider that! It helps you push your anti-male narratives. As Leo says, the devil does it's work in the shadows. Also, you are advocating for separation by saying that 'My truth is separate from your truth, and my truth should win in that situation'. This is a free pass for false accusations. Bias bias bias! It's not me who has growing up to do relative to flirting, it's the false accuser. That's the reason they do it! If you support false accusers, it's you who has growing up to do relative to flirting, not the falsely accused. Grow the fuck up! By saying 'Stop blaming women', you are saying that the woman has no accountability. The woman is never to blame and she's free to do whatever she wants, misuse the system however she wants and men should get the shaft in this situation. That's what you're really saying when you're talking about a false accusation! You want men to get the shaft because you hate men. Just admit it! You hate men, don't you?! You are the reason this shit happens. Take some responsibility. You are the problem here. Not the falsely accused, not men. YOU. Yes, you. I'm pointing the finger at you. STOP BLAMING MEN FOR EVERYTHING. Real people get hurt because of it. Take your ego and set it aside for a second. It's really fucking dense. Women have dense egos too! Not just men. Dense egos that hurt men. Too much feminist propaganda, huh? Set aside that hateful nonsense for a second. Cut that hateful shit out and start thinking more holistically. You have a responsibility towards not just your own health and safety, but also other people's. This is true for women too. Not just men.

Correct!!! You are the Grand Winner of The Great Chocolate-Chip Cookie!! Congrats!!! (It was 'The false rape problem' but I'll give you the cookie lol). Anyways, moving on. Do you know the word I want you to underline in that title? False!! It's false. That's a given, clear truth of the cases we're looking at. No 'if's, 'but's or 'maybe's. Are we on the same page here? Yeah?

You read @Preety_India's mind! Well done on that one. That's not what it says though. I'm going to give yall another guess. What does it say?

@Preety_India You haven't answered me yet. What does the title say? You can do it! I believe in you.

@Preety_India Looks like you didn't read the title of the thread. I'm going to show you how to do that. Here's how : Take your phone/laptop, scroll up, read the title of the thread. What does it say?

I'm calling this attitude out for being part of the problem of false rape allegations. Not personally attacking @Preety_India. Sigh. We have a long battle to fight against this situation. It's going to be a long struggle before things change!

Read the title of the thread. What does it say? Reply to me. What does the title of the thread say? In case you haven't read it, do it now. GTFO with your 'maybe's. Yes, I do gain confidence from seeing that a false allegation is false. You don't get to destroy my confidence by using your 'maybe's and distorting the reality of a FALSE allegation. This kind of attitude is precisely a part of the problem. You don't want to create clarity so that you can have complete control over men! By completely gaslighting and confusing a falsely accused individual.

@Forestluv Do you understand though how a false accusation could totally shatter your confidence with women? For no fault of your own? How this could easily create misogyny, in fact? The very thing you're trying to save women from by giving them the right to falsely accuse? It's unbelievable to me that we haven't even discussed the false accuser's accountability on this yet. A FALSE ACCUSATION IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE ACCUSED!! I want you to repeat that 5 times until you get it. While you're at it, contemplate whose fault it really is.

The fact that you're having to say this stuff is appalling. I want you to get how fucked up this is. This isn't something only the falsely accused can avoid. That's why having a collective conversation about this is very important.

You've been fortunate enough to have that experience. I've been through some really ruthless shit with the system. You can feel how everyone's against you and how everyone is using under-handed tactics to fuck you over, because the system said so. Even when the truth is on your side. Especially if you have some vindictive woman in a position of power on the sexual harassment committee, oh boy. It's not that I suck with women or something. I've had plenty of good experiences with plenty of women! The point is, this is not coming from a misogynistic place. The way it feels with the system though is that it's waiting for one slip-up from your side to fuck you over. Even if you don't slip up, even if all the evidence is on your side, they will do whatever is in their best-interests to protect their image. Not for justice or some high-consciousness ideal like truth or order or something, they'll do whatever saves their ass!

Why are we telling men how to protect themselves against being falsely accused instead of telling women to not falsely accuse? How is it my fault if you falsely accuse me? Why should it be my fault all the fucking time, whatever you do? Point your finger at the false accuser. Put the blame where it belongs. Then come talk to me about this. Most men in the system are fucking pussy-ass bitches for not looking at the reality and trying to appease the woman. Excuse my language, but this is how I actually feel about them. They're getting manipulated by a woman and they cave.

@Forestluv And who decides what's 'appropriate'? Women? The system? I think it's women. One false move and you're dead. Again, it's other people holding you to a standard of what's 'appropriate' and you have no say whatsoever. Also, why should someone be indoctrinated by your definition of 'appropriate'? Who are you to tell them what's 'appropriate' or not? In a false accusation, there is no victim. There is a false victim. This false victim shows the biases of the system and how it seeks to hold men back!