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Ah this was my experience with 20mg. I'm trying 30 next. That afterglow is so nice though. So calm and relaxed. Might do it before a job interview or a speech or something hahaha

Very reasonable! I agree. As for me, I did have some sessions a couple years ago. I didn't see big differences in my level of consciousness, but "good" things (materialistic ally speaking) always happened to me the days after a session, as if it were clearing my karma. Take that as you will

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Just plugged 20mg oxalate. No breakthrough, infact the lowest consciousness trip I've had. But extremely relaxing. 0 body load and some self dissolution which was nice. Might be less potent than snorting for me, will go 25-30mg next time. I needed 0.5ml water to dissolve 20mg oxalate though. Perhaps it did not end up concentrated enough. I added vinegar.

Old news. There's been a war raging against Octavio on the 5-Meo forums and Facebook group since about a year now. Would be nice to keep it off here.

What's the current situation with oxalate and plugging? It works? @Mercurio3 How exactly do you vape oxalate? I have a glass pipe, what else do I need? I would like to avoid snorting from now on as the bodyload is fucking insane. It's a mixture of nausea, super heavy body, enough ego to suffer but not enough ego to remember to surrender lol

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@Knock's character arc here brings a tear to my eye❤️

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One of the few interesting / insightful threads around here. Thanks. Interesting to chew on. Martin is an interesting case for sure. Reminds me of that creepypasta where victims are kept awake forcefully and turn into monsters lol. For what it's worth, he does *sound* relatively healthy and sound and in good humour. Ralston remains as the most advanced / complete feeling teacher to me. Remember also that Rali guy experienced 5meo awakening then went through a complete delusional nutcase phase. Catching up on some karma? Personally ive been taking a break from 5meo since about a month to fully integrate and embody red / orange for the next year(s)

"Hey, I like your xyz." "Hey, you look xyz" My most common ones.

Nah come up when snorting is already around 30min for me. Pretty sure plugging is even longer.

Honestly? No. Trying to indirectly achieve something by doing something else never works. I've done pickup as well as meditation, yoga and psychedelics for two years now. I've had multiple awakening experiences. They never improved my game or my social skills. Meditation, inquiry and psychedelics lead to awakenings and insight into myself and life, and a following general reduction in suffering. Practicing my social skills improved my social skills. Practicing game got me laid and made me more confident. Unfortunately, it's that simple. If you want to get good at something, you practice that one thing. There's no shortcuts, no indirect bullshit. Be direct about it. Infact, if anything meditation and yoga worsens my social skills. It makes me quiet and up in my head. Too conscious, too self aware. Good game and social skills require turning off, action, uninhibition. But knowing this forum, most people will tell you it will help. It my experience though, and I believe I have the credentials to say this, it won't. A certain result requires direct action towards that result.

The only one being disingenuous here is you, because you equate all creepy guys in the club grinding onto girls from the back with "pickup culture". I personally guarantee you all the guys doing that have no game and are just needy and drunk. Something pickup remedies. You don't differentiate between learning to be more interesting, masculine, fun, authentic, sexual, relaxed, dominant, uninhibited (actual game) and "dehumanising and patronising forums". You probably grew up with atleast decent social skills and and soci and sexual experiences that lead to you getting a girlfriend without pickup. Great, thousands of others in this day and age don't and must learn it. Who's selfish for judging them for it? And perhaps others just have their own vision and goals in life. Who's selfish for judging them for it? Get off your high horse. I get a little heated on this, I'm very passionate about it. What I'm trying to say is, with love, you lack perspective. ❤️

My post from another thread. I hope it answers your question. What people here fail to see is that pickup IS spirituality. It reveals fears to conquor and transcend. It integrates spiral dynamics Red and Orange. It fulfills the Maslow level of Sex and Social Life to allow for actual authentic spiritual seeking. It raises autonomy and independence. It strengthens your spirit. I could go on and on. I'm the type of guy to hit the club on a Saturday to "pick up chicks" (really it's to grow and develop myself through actual action), then snort 5MeO the following Sunday, have myself dissolve and realise God. Then I'll go out and game some more the next day, then I'll meditate and do yoga on Tuesday. And why not? It's the same thing. Development. I'm just covering more bases then most people here. Don't be that weakminded, beta, fear riddled new ager listening to Matt Khan all day. All about love but completely unable to take any kind of action in the world. Needs and desires unfulfilled. Move through all the spiral stages. Don't skip red and orange. Become strong, autonomous, and empowered. Empower yourself to fulfill the human sex need. Be skilled at the social domain. This is so obvious to me yet people will so ignorantly call pickup manipulative, neurotic and selfish. Or worse "just be yourself". PSA: "yourself" is also just a collection of conditioned, manipulative behaviours. Fuck sake, is it more selfish than sitting on your cushion meditating? No, of course not. PSA2 EVERYTHING YOU DO WHILE NOT 100% GOD REALIZED IS SELFISH. As it should be. Develop yourself in all domains. Cover your bases. Empower yourself. It's that simple. /rant

@flowboy@SFRL What people here fail to see is that pickup IS spirituality. It reveals fears to conquor and transcend. It integrates spiral dynamics Red and Orange. It fulfills the Maslow level of Sex and Social Life to allow for actual authentic spiritual seeking. It raises autonomy and independence. It strengthens your spirit. I could go on and on. I'm the type of guy to hit the club on a Saturday to "pick up chicks" (really it's to grow and develop myself through actual action), then snort 5MeO the following Sunday, have myself dissolve and realise God. Then I'll go out and game some more the next day, then I'll meditate and do yoga on Tuesday. And why not? It's the same thing. Development. I'm just covering more bases then most people here. Don't be that weakminded, beta, fear riddled new ager listening to Matt Khan all day. All about love but completely unable to take any kind of action in the world. Needs and desires unfulfilled. Move through all the spiral stages. Don't skip red and orange. Become strong, autonomous, and empowered. Empower yourself to fulfill the human sex need. Be skilled at the social domain. This is so obvious to me yet people will so ignorantly call pickup manipulative, neurotic and selfish. Or worse "just be yourself". PSA: "yourself" is also just a collection of conditioned, manipulative behaviours. Fuck sake, is it more selfish than sitting on your cushion meditating? No, of course not. PSA2 EVERYTHING YOU DO WHILE NOT 100% GOD REALIZED IS SELFISH. As it should be. Develop yourself in all domains. Cover your bases. Empower yourself. It's that simple. /rant

@flowboy Lol I wouldn't have the patience explaining myself to some randos on the Internet thinking they know what my life should look like or how healed I am This level of close mindedness with sexuality and relationships is what happens when chodes get into spirituality before game (99% of this forum). I used to be one People in these circles will preach spiritual autonomy but really lack respect for personal goals and passion when it doesn't align with their holier than thou concept of what spirituality looks like Watch them judge you as soon as pickup or casual sex is mentioned Ranting a bit not just in regards to this thread but many of the pickup related threads I've seen here over the last year