Danioover9000

@Bando It's common that it comes from porn addiction, but the P.O.I.S syndrome after nutting is mainly because the body has to replenish seminal fluid, which is nutrient dense in order to be used for creating new bodies. That kind of material being ejaculated on a daily or multiple times a day forces the body to relocate biological fluids from a few of the endocrine organs to replenish lost sexual fluids, which leads to fever like and cold like symptoms of over masturbating. Don't think there isn't a great cost to continuously losing sexual fluids and the body having to keep up with that rate of ejaculation.

@Javfly33 Good for you! We need more people like you to set a good standard for beginners to Nofap.

@Hardkill I definitely agree that martial arts and self-defense needs to be taught in the education system and mainstream, for the discipline and humility these training programs bring in, and that added know how and confidence in real life conflicts. Of course, the trainings should be more than physical combat, like I've stated about self- defense. I also agree that training should be consistent in order to have the subconscious mind, as readily as possible, be able to execute these moves. On real life drills and to some extent deadly techniques, I've supplemented that with multi-sensory visualization, which I've done long enough that it's vivid for me. I've been able to just visualize techniques I haven't done for a long time, and it still felt very familiar despite the lack of physical training.

@Loving Radiance It depend on how I meditate, eyes closed or open. In this case, my eyes are closed, yet I could star and maintain 'eye contact' with Crysty's eyes as my focusing object. Because my physical eyes are closed, I could meditate longer without getting dry eyes. I personally tend to get into no mind from eyes closed than eyes open. When I'd do eyes open, I'm way too alert and aware of the physical world to go deeper into letting go, yet as a trade off, I'm way more mindful of external sensations of body and some mind rather than the internal sensations. Sometimes I'm consistent, around 20-40 minutes, yet that varies depending on time of day and emotional state getting into the meditation session.

@Heart of Space While the sub-forum only includes spirituality, consciousness, enlightenment and meditation, there's some overlap with paranormal topics as well, as some users here are from occults who also have their way of consciousness work or investigating spirituality like psychic abilities, astral projection and so on. I've felt it's appropriate to talk about my experiences here, because even @Leo Gura had talked about the dark side of meditation, the paranormal and how dangerous spirituality is in his videos. We can definitely have more than Zen style discussions on spirituality, like yogic styles, occultism style of spirituality, Abrahamic traditional styles, Pantheistic styles and so on. I mentioned this before as she might be a part of my mind, yet I don't know if it's really the case. It's possible she's a separate entity that's non-physical and visits me from time to time, matching her attitude with mine. She could also be some form of energy, like a type of powerful force of energy that manifests in different forms. It could be far more than these three possibilties, and to this day I'm still learning from Crysty. Crysty says she likes your pic. To clarify, are you referring to my haunting experience with that spirit, or to Crysty?

@Username This is good advice for @Leo Gura , and the OP. I've experienced similar energy depletions, but I learned through failures to manage to control the flow of energy and combine the sexual energy with love. The main problem is people who don't manage that flow of energy and combine it with love, and delude themselves into continuing a porn habit that's destroying little by little their life force energy, you get various degrees of severe negative effects, some can effect your physical body. I've suffered from P.O.I.S similar to the OP, and the management of my health is one factor in my decision not to fap every day, every other day or weeks. While it's still relative to many people's sexual needs, sexual orientations, attachments, the sooner the sex karma is burnt and done for, the better. I wish I could just zap people, also here in this forum, with how my experiences with crystal clean energy I got from semen retention from my mind to theirs. It's beautiful, really.

@Ajay0 I can say this is true in my experience, that sexual abstinence does increase physical and mental energy. After I'd masturbate, I've found it more challenging to get into exercising and meditating.

Update: I've been meditating with Crysty. I would open my eyes to concentrate on a tantra or focus on my breath. This time I chosen to look at her sitting before me and I locked my eyes to hers in order to concentrate at her eyes before I close my eyes and meditate. I've noticed that she is making some progress being able to keep more still.

@Leo Gura Not just high school, but elementary school, middle school, college and universities. Not just martial arts, but mainly self-defense and more than just physically defending yourself.

@Leo Gura Because isn't masturbation harmless? That's what's being told in the mainstream, that masturbating in moderation isn't harmful. If masturbating is perfectly safe, then I can still masturbate no matter how much I deplete my seminal fluids. It's harmless if done in moderation. This 'masturbation is harmless' and 'masturbate in moderation' spits in the faces of those spiritual masters that practice semen retention, and the legends and geniuses that benefited from not nutting too frequently, too lightly or not at all. The sooner anyone burns the sex karma up and be done with it, the better their lives would be.

@Eren Eeager Stay strong and continue on your semen retention path. What helped me was making sure I'm sleeping enough, eating some fruits and veggies, and doing some stretches or chi gong. Get a full health check on to see what nutritional imbalances you have, Take a pain killer pill if it's too painful and see a doctor to get some diagnosis.

@TheAlchemist It's far more than just limiting beliefs and shame, sometimes different bodies do have biological and hormonal limitations within the sex gonads or the adrenals. and lack of nutrition, vitamins, and minerals can increase P.O.I.S symptoms. Also lack of sleep and over masturbation, no matter emotional or psychological limiting beliefs, can still make you far more tired.

@Leo Gura Say that to the dead teenager that died from masturbating 49 times in a single day! The excessive masturbation led him to experience cardiac failure. There are times when people need to exercise will power and discipline to bring it into moderation, and times when it needs to be much less than recommended by mainstream society. Tantric yoga and Daoism acknowledges that for males semen retention brings more life force energy. Even if it's not a hard fact, it's discovered through empirically, in times where energy conservation was so much more important than in this Era. However, it's up to other people to decide if it's worth a try or not. I'm lucky enough to be just that conscious that my masturbation was a factor in my illness in most cases after I orgasm and rested.

@Zega Thank you for sharing your perspective. This I do agree with, because tai chi has meditation practices built into the movements, and introducing martial arts with different degrees of difficulty, throughout each level of education. However, it's not enough to only be martial arts, it has to be self-defense that covers combat and other areas within self defense like: discernment from appearance, pre-post combative preparation, detection, situational awareness, understanding use of force, avoidance, de-escalation, diffusion, post-incident recovery, reading body language, tonality, and utilizing a crowd for self-defense. It should be more than physically defending yourself, because certain conflicts can be resolved without getting into fights. On the other hand, people who haven't trained to defend themselves early in life won't have enough confidence to step in and intervene in a situation that's not too life threatening, and intervention could save a life, but instead some citizens in some countries just ignore completely. Thanks for sharing your perspective.

@Kalki Avatar This is also common to have, not just seasonally but depending on how frequent and forceful the masturbation. It's not a fun thing to have, and at this point it's only will powering yourself not to fap that'll immediately help not worsen it. along with care and diet. This was one reason why it's better to use oil or lotion, as dry humping or dry masturbation would be not good.

@aurum Thank you for sharing your perspective on this issue. I do agree that society does need to educate self defense in schools because I haven't seen traditional education systems teach self-defense and hope at least this is being taught nation wide and globally. At that point, when self-defense becomes part of mainstream education, and we do experience the limits of it, then we're ready to reevaluate it for further changes until we don't need the physical self-defense part. It's a complicated issue for sure, and confounding it is unfamiliarity to, fear of, and anxiety for, your safety or family's safety in a situation that could severely hurt or kill, and you don't know how to handle how the other person's state of consciousness and emotional states in this situation. At least if most people had an earlier indoctrination process of self-defense, their subconscious minds could offer more solutions than purely physically resolving the conflicts. Also, people's mindfulness can vary, along with their focus, sensory clarity and equanimity. Equanimity here, to me, might be more important as that can help people choose the handling of a situation calmly, rather than react to and go for the easiest way to resolve some self-defense scenarios like physically attack first or be more aggressive than the perpetrator. Thank you for sharing your conscious perspective on self-defense.

@Eren Eeager One time, in my Nofap journey, I woke up and had what's called a 'morning wood". This, and some other signs I didn't know at the time, were signs that some of my porn induced erectile dysfunctions are significantly reduced, or cured, and that I'm in the safe zone if I choose to ejaculate to healthy masturbation/sex with real GF. Also, this is just an option available to be taken, or can be ignored for longer streaks and deeper benefits of sexual abstinence. If the choice is made to masturbate, I suggest as close to bedtime, healthier version, in a state of love and intimacy, so the rest is natural to your sleep time.

Update: I was meditating and at some point I day dreamed and saw me and Crysty building a sand castle and it fell down. We repeatedly keep building it until it was big enough for us to stand on. I see that there's something off about the castle but then the thought ended and I came back. Cysty is as usual struggling with meditating and sometimes I see her walk around the garden for some time, then goes back to meditating. We then later did another meditation session involving me staring into Crysty's eyes, as that's one of other focus objects I don't wonder off from.

@Eren Eeager I've been through these same symptoms from recently relapsing, so I know it really sucks to go through it. One thing that helps a little bit was what was I orgasming to and how? I do the best I can to appreciate the orgasm and love I felt. And finally, re-committing to Nofap and do it again, remember how the benefits felt, you'll get back to that wonderful state of consciousness.

@FredFred I meant when I was taking a break, Leo decides to take a break too.

@dflores321 I've recently watched the anime the devil is a part timer, and reading the Berserk manga and the anime and movies. Why are synchronicities happening to me? Oh well, a month of Berserk and some sleepless nights ahead

@How to be wise Crysty isn't 100% accurate, as it seems to me she sometimes learns slowly on some subjects, or quickly on some. I don't know all of her learning abilities so far. She's learning how to play board games and art from me, and she takes her time with board games, as some are more challenging than others. I might try this out, but so far she likes to play pranks on me, as that's one aspect of her personality she has shown so far, and she's adorable.

@Javfly33 If I was on the gaming mission, I would appraoch, cold, cool, warm or hot, it doesn't matter the style, I'd still appraoch. However, if I had higher prioritizes, then I approach those goals and not the hot woman. They're a distraction in this situation.

@Striving for more Good you're practicing Nofap. Don't worry about other benefits of Nofap, just put that increase in energy for your workouts, studies, and spiritual practices if you do them. The less you bother you ding dong, the better. NLP is not psuedo science, it stands for neuro-linguistic programming. It's a field of study designed to change the software of the brain. Visualization and hypnosis work very well. I've visualized in so much detail I came very hard one time, and hypnosis to trigger orgasms on command. Very powerful if you know what to do. Keep doing Nofap, and maybe work on other areas of your life before dating. Higher quality life, greater attraction from women.

Update: I've been able to have Crysty guide my non-dominant hand for writing and drawing stuff. I've also been able to get myself deeper in my visualization sessions with her, and feel more solidly in my mental body, in terms of feeling the surfaces of objects and their temperatures. I've also been able to work on my heart space a bit, and feel more similar emotions coming from her. I've also been able to play some chess with her and I'm able to sustain each piece on the board.