Danioover9000

Now that I've had a good nights rest - I haven't slept for a couple of nights - I do think it's great more people are going vegan if you feel any health benefits at all, from your experience. This also means that there's more organic meat to eat for me, so I do encourage people to go vegan because more for me . However, I'll still feel very sorry for the lettuces, tomatoes and other fruits and vegetables that will be slaughtered for selfish consumption. I do think one day all you vegans will get what's coming to you for all the murder you are committing against plants.

@datamonster From a properly planned diet. And that's assuming the preparations are solid to begin vegan based.

@Scholar This is simple not true. I've captured worlds in my mind, and I've done it ones, means I can do it some more in the future, regardless if it's relative to another person's mind incapable of capturing worlds. Yet this is difficult to put into words, hence relativity of limited understanding. If what it takes is the relative removal of some other worlds, that's the meaning of creating. To create, empty first. Relatively speaking. Thanks to relativity, some things get to either impose or not impose stuff onto other things.

@Scholar The only way for a perspective to impose on another perspective, is when there's separation already, hence relativity.

@Scholar The only relationshit we have is textbox, which is relative to the language typed. But yeah, hopefully have a nice day yourself.

@K Ghoul Yet, that is one of many ways to enforce morality. Unfortunately, it's still relative.

@neutralempty Yet this is relative to how that person's mind and body is shaped, and hat shapes how each person understanding differently than the other. The understanding that an A.I has, is different from an animals, is different from a human's, is different from an alien, and so on.

@Carl-Richard Of course I'm not saying nothing, because I'm typing not speaking. Totally different mediums, which are relative to one another.

@Scholar Of course I can see myself turning this realization of relativity to sort of benefit me, but that depends on if I have cosmic levels of will power and properties which could bend relativity for my own benefit, to which I have very little of, so no matter my ego, relativity does not bend down to me, but I to it. Trust me, If I am capable of such epic feats, I'd have designed my own world for myself to live on, independent of other things, including relativity. Your assumptions about me is relative to what I have said so far being truthful or false. Also, you claiming I'm gonna be sorry if relativity is used against me? Again, so much assuming coming from you, you don't know if I love it when relativity is used tightly against me, depending on if I have a personality that loves pain, or a different one that doesn't, or some other personality, yet even all that is relative. Sorry, there's no such thing as consistency, as that is subject to relativity, to different degrees of time flow, which is why so many vegans can't equally appreciate the lives of plants and the live of animals, because animals have faster time flow relative to plant's development, such that we feel more sorry for animals over plants.

@Scholar Relativity does not depend on a human's demand for it to be applied appropriate, because that's coming from a tiny limited perspective, relative to relativity itself. The time to talk about relativity is relative to the situation and types of species of humans talking about relativity. I'll agree with you a tiny bit that yes, depending (relative) on the situation, some situations are better at masturbating relativity on a mental level, and some situations are not productive to talking about relativity because of a perspective's survival, but even that is relative, regardless if you're busy in a meditative retreat, or busy handling you're sexuality, or busy handling physics particles, that's still relative! Can't you not see that such separations is occur regardless of you wanting such things? I've offered my perspective on vegetables, and my position is mostly neutral and slightly on vegans actually. Even when I'm supportive of vegan diets, I still get back stabbed by vegans, as soon as I point to how relative their perspective is. Vegan perspective is really sensitive, even when I'm forcefully being vanilla in my stance.

@Scholar That's still relative to who you are in that situation, from the arrested one, to the one arresting, which one are you? You could even be the prison itself, and I'd tell you that your existence in this limited world is still relative to other objects and happenings. Right now, vegans are relatively speaking less valuable to me, and that's because of my mind, body, and life experiences that's relatively separates other diets, including vegans. Plants are different to me now, because I'm feeling more sorry for them putting up with humans eating them, yet that too is relative.

@neutralempty How do you know I'm misusing relativity? Even this is relative. You thinking about if I'm using is relative too.

@Scholar You attempting to box me in as a type of person is relative. Even the data you show is relative to my language understanding, which easily makes you're perspective claims on me relative and false. You don't know if I understand whatever models you offer me at all.

The more interesting discussion point is if veganism turns legal, and is being imposed by the government to be on a vegan diet, what kinds of moral implications does this have for those who're not vegans?

@Scholar Chill out, her perspective is relative to your perspective, nothing to be so hurt other by, because your negative behavior is relative compared to hers.

@neutralempty My level of care and empathy is relative to the victim, the perpetrators, and you. Feel free to help out the victim, or not, or take whatever actions you want. More important it is is to see how relative it all is, because you can find yourself in the perpetrator's position, or the victim's position, or the witness's position. Question is can you realize it's deeply relative? Yes or no?

@Scholar Of course, what I have to say is relative, including what is valuable or not to you, along with my values, how I'm triggered, my cognitive levels, my moral compass, my levels of dishonesty. Even you choosing to impose your values on me is relative, and depending on my responses to that, or depending on how others around you react to you imposing yourself on me. All that is relative. It's so relative I don't need to demonstrate to a perspective, like you, that I've fully grasped and understood this entire situation and veganism. You don't know I've done many years of self experimentation on nutrition, or if I'm an idiot, or if I'm something else, because I'm relative, I'm having to be contrasted and compared to your mind's experiences. That's how relative I am to you. The value of this conversation is relative too. There's also the rational ability to claim this entire thread is a joke, and irrelevant to anything at all. Thanks to relativity, such claims can be made, and not necessarily be demonstrated to be the case. Get comfortable with relativity real quick, otherwise keep suffering. That's relative too.

@Village It's so easy to not acknowledge how relative this all is. Even vegans get triggered if they really realize their positions are so relative that it greatly diminishes the importance of such positions, because their relative.

@neutralempty Yes, I am relatively speaking, different from you, and my level of empathy is different relative to you. Sorry.

@Scholar Morality is relative to other types of moralities. Relativity has everything to do with what we're discussing here, because as soon as you bring in perspectives that live on a carnivore diet, an omnivore diet, a more serious vegan diet and native diets like eating whales and seals, the view of vegans becomes relative. Even what you call 'honest rational inquiries' is relative to other types of rationalities, including the rationality that can claim this entire thread is irrelevant and does not count as a discussion whatsoever. Literally, it's so relative that the degree of a situation's or a person's worth and stake is relative to other situations and people's other levels of worth. Indeed, I'm so relative that I benefit from my relativity, as I'm not another person being chased down by a killer immediately. We all greatly benefit from relativity, such that you don't go insane from the lack of separation from others and parts of the world. Unfortunately for me, I'm starting to value the lives of other plants more so than animals and humans. Am I at risk of mental breakdown? Maybe so, yet this relativity is helping still to maintain my sanity, as does it benefit you too! Because you too type away in an intellectual superiority manner, relative to other ways of typing on the computer.

@StarStruck Sorry, that's still relative.

@neutralempty Because that's the case, that you are relative to other things.

@Scholar That's okay, because that's dependent on the era and relative to people's willingness to be in such situations. Also, who you are and act are relative to you, so you do you, keeping in mind how relative it all is, which doesn't remove consequences for yourself, because that too is relative. The last part is irrelevant, we're talking about veganism not spirituality, which is relative too.

On another note, just eating vegetables overstimulates my hormones, and increases my horniness levels. While it's great at other contexts, some contexts I find it unpleasant to feel horny for long periods of time. I find it annoying when my mind wonders to naked women when I need it to design complex structures for my survival. Vegan, no vegan, alien, elf machine, you do you. You're a perspective like the specks of dust in the universe, a once in a lifetime snowflake that'll melt like all the rest of the snows out there. Hopefully at least realize how relative you are to everything.

@Keyhole This also a valid perspective on veganism, especially the affordability of this lifestyle.