Danioover9000

Playing devil's advocate, I've found an interesting video of an American's take on the Oprah interview with Meghan and Harry: I have more nuanced view on this, but even someone not invested in this situation, had what seems to me an intuition that racism is not the core issue in the interview, that there's much more than racism. I would imagine most people that has little to no interest may have similar views that this person has, yet that may not be the case. It's also interesting to me his speaking patterns are similar to those who physically descriminate race by physical features. What are your thoughts on this person's view?

@JTL Were you referring to ethnocentrism? Yes, in the past it was more heavily about that, along with emphasizing differences with physical features in conjunction to emergence in biology, evolution and such. On top of skin colour, we also have linguistic racism and covert racism currently.

@Yali It's best not to be provocative with some users here, if you don't have anything too valuable to say. No matter how provocative or argumentative you get, some users will remain the same.

@Hardkill I'm not interested in arguing with you, I'm more interested in a discussion, and I do understand that some coaches are scam artists hustling as well, yet sometimes there are decent coaches, and if you can afford it, good. If not, then you'd have to be creative in learning the mistakes, and build up volume of experiences with dating and learning, or learn from some for free, or keep a journal. All else fails, keep approaching, or move on in some area of life. That's the secret to success in dealing with limits.

Good contradiction.

@snowyowl Yes, the story started with them complaining from a place of privilege and expectation of being more successful in the royal family, only to complain when they can't get more than that. As far as individuals in stage blue/orange societies, I don't think there's enough incentive to go and challenge the structural norms of their society, as currently they are benefiting to some degree. However, let's stick to OP's topic without derailing thread. Actually, this whole thing started because Meghan expected to be the next princess Diana, or the queen, when marrying Harry, but that being not the case, putting pressure on Harry to either make the decision to remaun in the royal family, or split off from them to try to become independently successful with his business. Actually, the royal family has enough requisite varity in facilitating Meghan and Harry in tbe family, provided that Meghan and Harry was satisfied with their current position, yet as it turns out, that wasn't the case. In fact, it's because of Meghan that Harry made the decision to split off, but also because he decided to be in this relationship with Meghan in the first place, so technically this whole mess was Harry's fault .

@snowyowl I used that as an example, and I stopped because the list would be long if I listed other cultures. It came up because that's entangled with racism. However, back more to OP's topic, is another real issue, is that Harry and Maghan are more privileged than the common people, i.e in the USA and UK. The fact they were complaining in their interview with Oprah that their security wouldn't be provided by the Queen is a blatant lie, because the quuen does not decide who gets security, it's the royal branch jn London that decides security. Harry and Meghan are worth millions, live upper class, complaining to the common people to pay, with their tax and hard earned money, their security. Also, Meghan ain't no next Diana, because of age difference, and she couldn't last the 20 years of living in the royal family, so the comparison is bad at best. I like how some users here point out to other users that they're living detached from reality, when Harry and Maghan are so far detached from reality that they have the gall to complain to common folk to pay for their security. I'm sorry for the common people, also for Pier Morgans as well, because he spoke up about that interview, despite his status. I think Nigel Farage said it best, and I paraphrase, that 'they should have their titles removed and live like normal people'. Didn't occur to me till now that privilege also is a factor here too.

Another issue I forgot to add, is that race, ethnocentrism and culture are entangled, such that which ever culture you choose to support or hate, you would be racist and a bigot in the eyes of your own culture/in group, and a potential traitor in the out group/other culture you're supporting. For example, if I like the Nordic culture, because they are capable at seafaring and have their mythology, I must alsk be prepared to be called a slaver, murderer and rapist by associating with a culture that historically did coastal invasions, pillaged and sold and owned slaves. Just because I have a bias for certain cultures and highlight their differences and achievements doesn't mean that makes me safe feom being a racist, because like I said it's also deep in the subconscious mind.

@Parththakkar12 Wait, I thought life purpose was meant for me to find my deeper values, and provide my values onto society, no matter how small/niche it is, with whatever skillset I have? However, what happens when the impact I'm aiming to have on the world/society I live, the contribution I think I want to give, might get rejected because it's too new, like for example creating a new business or vocation, and most of society rejects it? This does make life purpose more individualistic and libertarian, in a way, but that could be wrong, unless it's sometimes the case?

Some people apparently still think art provides a lot less value, yet this is getting priced like crazy, and the creator is getting rewarded nicely.

All this is making me question my new life purpose, again. So much for trying to provide value, when it goes against the norms of society.

@snowyowl That's exactly the case. There's more going on than what Meghan and Harry would let on, underlying the current situation. Also, this thread is over generalizing racism, so I'll explicitly tell you which degree of racism is dangerous, mild, or below awareness. Here it is: 1. All, including You have racist thoughts, deep in your subconscious mind, that place where your conscious mind cannot compute the sheer amount of thoughts related to racism. Having racist related thoughts does not mean you are an evil racist. Thoughts range from covert to mild, and some to few groups may have stronger forms of racist thought patterns. By themselves, they have relatively low harm. 2. Having negative feelings in your mind/body, from experiencing a human being of different colour and shape for the first time, does not make you an evil racist. Emotions related to threats, actual to perceived forms to one's race or ethnic group, mostly range from mild to subconscious. It is possible to feel so strongly that your body will adjust to threats accordingly. By themselves, unless the intensity is strong enough, pose little harm. 3. Having racist related thought stories and emotional responses to a person/group of difference to you/your in-group, stemming from culture/up-bringing, does not mean your are an evil racist. This is more chronic than acute case of racism, that too can be mild to subconscious, and can build up over time if no release is done. 4. Having beliefs, thoughts stories, and negative emotions that are racist related, and patterns of behavior towards an object, non-living(a table), and living, un-related to racism, does not mean you are an evil racist, i.e. me drinking tea, saying hi, does not make me an evil racist. 5. Having thoughts, beliefs, negative emotions, that are race related, and communicating in a hard-R way, in context, does not make you an evil racist. This is where most people have more potential and possibility to confuse an act, verbal or non-verbal, as racist, without carefully minding the context. This is where abstraction can further confuse. Some negative aspects of cancel culture, cancelling an online creator, later proven innocent, come to mind, where mob mentality follows closely. 6. Having thoughts, beliefs, negative emotions, communicate in race related ways, and acting/behaving in a racist way, in context of acting in a movie scene, does not make you an evil racist, unless the role you play in the movie has you be an evil racist. All the above is natural to being a person in duality with other people, until you do the following below: 7. Follow through with destructive acts/behaviors that a related to race, from covert to intensely violent action. This makes you an actual evil racist, to choose to act on those underlying urges, even unconsciously. Even these patterns of behavior have degrees of mild to strong forms of racism, to subconscious adjustments your mind/body goes through when meeting different people you don't know well enough. This should not be used to justify staying at your current development, defend your cognitive biases, your morality/ethics, attack other people, but instead use what I've listed as a way to self check patterns of thinking, feeling, and behaving. Anything else beyond this self reflection, is already you weaponizing what I've said, or what other people have said here, regardless of where you stand on this issue, as the aggressor or victim. I suggest you look before you leap to your high horse, and catch how your ego weaponizes these patterns, other wise we just get word salad and little understanding of the deeper problem, and get lost on surface level problems.

Good points. At first, people construct racism in binary ways, but in reality it's more complicated. I hope this thread takes the high road, and not become polarizing in discussing this issue, as I'm seeing a few here getting triggered.

@SS10 Is this the one?

@SS10 If you have link, that'll be great for other people to see.

@Rilles We have already, with a democratic parliament. China has also replaced theirs, but kept the architecture around for, you know, tourism and sight seeing. The UK just has a living, animated version of monarchy.

She's definitely spot on with men being valued for what they can offer, and on that basis only, such that some men who won't/can't provide value to society, will be valued less. Not sure about her views on women, but on men it's correct.

Usually it's better to face whatever fear you have, to it's exact situation, or any situation with close proximity to that type of fear. In this case, you have social anxiety, so plan and go be in social situations. You can also chunk it to smaller steps as well, like strolling or biking through public places, or go to small stores and start small talk. Then you can decompress in isolation again, practicing mindfulness or contemplation about metaphysics, epistemology, philosophy. or your own psyche/psychology. Rinse and repeat. On a side note, social anxiety doesn't disappear entirely, but it gets easier to deal with long-term.

@StarStruck Shows that preparation and slow, careful transition from diet to diet is important.

@Willie What do you mean when you say 'containment', in Game A? Is there also containment in Game B?

@John Iverson Could you first define what is Game A and Game B , some examples as well? It's unclear for me to vote on.

Can't wait for Leo to cover shadow work, and the archetypes.

@Sempiternity I've also experienced this area, and if you're new to this, start with writing short stories first, because those tangible results will be much easier to plan, organize and execute. Don't overshoot if you're not too comfortable writing, and remember, far more important is your psychology towards writing. I think Leo has a past video on overcoming creative blocks, so good video to brush up on.

If you want to post from YouTube to this forum, right click on paused video, click 'copy video ULR', come back here on your post, press enter to make a line space, and either hit Ctrl+v, or right click and click paste. Should be okay for other video platforms. Like this for example: If you have more than one video, it's always good to press enter, because they tend to have no spaces between them and so far with me, it's difficult to undo out right and I had to delete and start again.

@illbeyourmirror I think Leo has talked in-depth about free will and determinism in his past videos, along with his spiritual videos. It's an interesting topic, also when it comes to Wu Bongs', Sadh gurus' and Leos' perspectives on this. I'm leaning more towards fate than free-will, yet sometimes there are situations that tend to make you veer more free-will than fate, so I guess the best thing is to share to some degree. The clip below is a good, short summery to the free-will vs fate, with a darker twist. Also the entire show does tackle some philosophies like existentialism, nihilism, free-will, purpose, in a medieval setting, while being both light and dark and entertaining, and serious. Viewer discretion is advised, if you're too young or can't handle dark themes, so beware!. The manga source material is much better quality for me.