Danioover9000

@zurew I have a bias against arguing and debating. It's so obvious to me that I intuit that very few people can do serious harm to others will refuse to reform and wish to continue harming people. Such people need to go. Seriously, would you be willing to spend part of your income and taxpayer money, for 50 years straight, housing the most disgusting human beings on earth, or would you rather save 50 years of income and taxpayer money, by executing the 5-1% of the population that never will reform? It's a simple mathematics problem. Yes, it's tragic to kill a psychopathic cannibal whose called Bob and maybe has a family he constantly gaslights, but it's also tragic to let such a person loose and kill hundreds of women and children who will undergo more suffering and grief, having to live with the thoughts and knowledge that their loved one was killed in such horrific circumstances. Sorry, such people have to go. I am at tier 2 cognition, as I'm able to imagine these types of people living life, committing harms, and imagine the victims these people create. Most of you can't stomach such imaginations, and at the collective scale too, and I am willing to engage with the full ramifications of every action possible. The stage green limitations of this thread are fucking ridiculous.

@zurew When I said to gather evidence, I meant one or two pieces of evidence, hard and a witness, not hundreds of multiple pieces of evidence and multiple trials when one video clearly shows the guilty person eating and killing a bunch of people. Ideally just one piece of evidence that clearly shows the person has bad intent and wishes to continue hurting people. When it's very clear the 'innocent' psychopath, sociopath and degenerate committing the most disgusting acts of humanity ever, it necessitates that part of the prison system should function to remove such evil and devious individuals from society. Until you have had experienced the other end of evil, or have witnessed such acts, you will realize the need to execute such people. Yes, for a very niche set of people, that will harm other people in real life. Only for those who committed extremely harmful acts. Petty crimes I leave to your common sense, but I'm focused on the greatest evilest acts of humanity, that they want to continue doing.

@Bobby_2021 I'm merciful, and would rather not let you rot in jail and instead sentence you to death if you committed very degenerate and heinous acts, and showing a strong will and desire to continue regardless. Also, it's cheaper to kill rather than to house and continue paying your living through taxpayer money.

@Tyler Robinson Are you @Pretty? You write just like her, long winded paragraphs when triggered and drama seeking. @Leo Gura or other mods, please check if this is true.

A debate that became very heated later on, both entertaining, and shows the limits o arguing. Enjoy: Thoughts and feelings comment down below.

@Max_V I have dealt with this in the past, what worked for me were the following: Doung meditation. Doing isometric exercises. Isometrics develops mind and muscle connections, via through intense muscle contraction that engages in grwater synapses activity, Reading a lot, fiction and nonfiction. Playing word games, like jumble or scramble. Playing board games, or any game that makes you think more. 8 hours of sleep and long naps if possible. Omega3 fish oil, or crill oil. Also eat foods with good protein and fat source, and plenty of colourful vegetables and fruits. A variety of visualization exercises, taken from others and what I design for myself, from playing blindfold chess, to mentally listening to music. Rhyme games, and free style rapping. Also related is word association. Aim for a pleasent headache, and that's where you stop. Pleasent headache means your brain is improving a neural pathway to a associated word. Also patience and focusing in on incremental improvements, like in deliberate practice, and also big and compelling vision for being a wordsmith.

@Raptorsin7 Well, in that case Destiny would be mirroring the impartiality of GOD, in that it doesn't care for one thing over another, and equally treats everything as fundamentally deviod of meaning, whereas Nick reflects the love of god, vai through telling many jokes and disguises any Nazi or white supremacist ideology through fun and games. Both are unfortunately cucked by the devil, Destiny, an ex catholic, came out a sociopath while Nick's a secretive Nazi, also in the mix is Mr. Girl and whatever he represents. So yeah, energy plays a factor, as well as charisma and saying the right things to leverage the crowds energy to you, like Donald Trump. Technically if we're obly on the energy factor, Bernie Sanders would have been far more favorable to be president. Clearly outshines in the energy factor.

This is especially the case if such individuals are hell bent to fulfill a mision of destroying parts, or society as a whole, at the cost of thousands and many more suffering greater misery and are actively pursuing that goal.

@Tyler Robinson It's taking into consideration of the living spaces, materials for the construction of each part of a prison facility, tax payer money per year that pays for funding for every equipment and maintenance costs, paying for the use of the phone, funding for food and water supply for inmates with or without parole,versus those that are on death row. American prison system is notoriously pretty expensive, and they do try to make a profit for each incarnation they do. Humanitarian considerations are not limitless in the face of cannibals, psychopaths, sociopaths, rapists, child murderers and paedophiles. Housing extremely degenerate humans that chronically wish ill will and harm to other good samaritans and civilians in society, while putting police officers, nurses, doctors, wardens, and other people that have to manage and deal with such evil for decades at risk of getting hurt or killed, while having to pay more taxes of keeping such devils alive, is the greater collective harm. The humane thing for such types of people, is to kill them off quickly when enough evidence is gathered that they clearly have intent for degeneracy, and harm to others, and strong desire to continue until death regardless.

@Raptorsin7 Well, technically you are correct, as Nick is far more integrity of being who he is compared to Destiny the sociopath. Don't know about the love part, maybe he loves to disguise his intentions with humour?

Seems like the cists for death penalties are cheaper than life imprisonment. https://ballotpedia.org/Fact_check/Is_the_death_penalty_more_expensive_than_life_in_prison#:~:text=A preliminary study by South,the other cases by %24353%2C105.

@DieFree Maybe too delighted.

Yes, a stage yellow person like Dabiel Schmachtenberger for example, and a stage yellow society can support the death penalty given enough information and contextual understanding of how the death penalty effects a person, all the way up to cultures and the world. A stage yellow person and society is not hyper emotional, soy, and care bear delusional hippie like that is too stage green, or too individualistic business and profit driven like Stage orange, or too nationalistic, patriotic or religious like stage blue. Stage yellow has ascended tier 1 cognition, and operates above it in tier 2 cognition, and is above the moralizing games of the stages like many posts if triggered users ub this thread denonstrate clearly. We are evidently far away from a stage yellow society and population wise we rarely find any stage yellow system thinkers. So we'll have to waut until we have the matrix, and A.I that is hyper intelligent decides who to spare or not for the greater good.

@Epikur This alone would be a very compelling argument for Destiny being sociopathic and manipulative

This is a great video, demonstrating hypocrisy and double standards from all sides involved. Also, another powerful word 'obfuscation.' and 'obfuscate, obfuscating.'. Here's a definition from google: Definitions Definitions from Oxford Languages verb make obscure, unclear, or unintelligible. "The spelling changes will deform some familiar words and obfuscate their etymological origins" Similar: obscure confuse make obscure/unclear blur muddle jumble complicate garble muddy cloud befog muddy the waters Opposite: clarify bewilder (someone). "The new rule is more likely to obfuscate people than enlighten them" Similar: bewilder mystify puzzle perplex baffle confound bemuse So, what is obfuscation? Why does obfuscation exist, and how is obfuscation and hypocrisy interconnected?

Oh god, it gets much worse. I have lost even more respect for Destiny, unfortunately Mr. Girl looked weak rhetorically. It's like one other debate with Sam Harris and Deepak Chopra, Chopra looked like an idiot and was in the wrong, but ultimately, he was right long term, but short term rhetorically less convincing.

@AtheisticNonduality I have completed one of many points in my bucket list, living long enough to see heroes turn into villains? Enough complaining for today, time to use my wacom tablet and draw comics and anime and stuff.

@AtheisticNonduality Oh no, another Nahm@zurew?

@DrugsBunny First off, nice pic. Agreed, this situation is very sucky for the majority of artists, not just visual artists, but for those who do music or dance, imagine A.I evolving fast enough to replace the majority of creative jobs. It' s ridiculous. In fact, if A.I drawing programs get really good, it would put thousands of Mangakas out of work fast.

@SQAAD It depends on one's value systems, cognitive and moral development, personality, states of being, life experiences and other lines of development, worldview, and the type of mind you have and its biases and which sense making apparatus it prefers. It may be just a language or semantics issue. Whenever I hear or read 'manipulation', or 'exploitation', I get negative connotations in my mind. However, If I hear or read the words 'rhetoric', 'optics', 'persuasion', 'compelling' and similar words, I have much less negative thinking and feelings of those words versus manipulation, exploitation, blackmail, coercion and so on. I think you may have muddy meaning generation, conflating additional meanings to the word 'manipulation' that it doesn't have itself. For me, there's linguistic distinction between higher forms and higher conscious manipulations versus lower conscious forms of manipulation. If you asked me what lower forms of manipulation means to me, blackmail, coercion and threatening are obvious low manipulation tactics. Higher forms of manipulations are white lies, providing reassurance despite how grim and dark a situation is, or creating a compelling vision for yourself, to self manipulate yourself from lower states of being towards higher states of being.

Manipulations happen when you're aware or not aware of them. Also, most are not educated enough to recognize they are getting coned, and no amount of consciousness can help protect you against a con, other than when a survivor of that con telling you what happened to them. You won't realize you are getting gaslight, until someone that survived it or a past manipulator reveals the gaslighting mechanics.

@r0ckyreed Assuming, with little to no evidence. Assuming being a leader is easier than being a devil. Not everyone will be a leader, because of extra work and time, and other limitations that naturally creates a hierarchy that not everyone can be a leader at the same time. Persuasion, influential and inspirational are other characteristics of manipulation, as all leaders have to manipulate one way or the other. In fact, as a finite self, you have to manipulate one way or the other. All devils =!= all devils evil. Some devils are good, like the one that does your mailing, or the one that did your roofing, while still believing they are a separate entity from you.

And when it comes to politics, I'm a bald eagle myself too, with a little bit leaning to the right.

@Raptorsin7 I'm no Destiny fan, but I do acknowledge that he and Vaush are skilled enough debaters. It may have to do with differences in value systems, cognitive and moral differences, personality traits, states of being, life experiences and other lines of development. In the past, even though it's likely an exaggeration, some claim Destiny is a sociopath. He may have sociopathic tendencies, and is neural typical and autistic, but I think these differences may give a mixed signal and vibe that may be misinterpreted as malicious.

@zurew @AtheisticNonduality @thisintegrated Speak of the devil: https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvmvqm/an-ai-generated-artwork-won-first-place-at-a-state-fair-fine-arts-competition-and-artists-are-pissed Here. We. Go!