Danioover9000

@lxlichael Ambition, brute forcing, drive, cunning.

As I have predicted, this thread has derailed.

@Lyubov Nah, still the same as you've left it before, just some are more clever with their posting.

@abundance Or, those were him role playing BDSM with that blonde woman and brunette that consented beforehand. Context is very important in deciding whether those were real or role playing fantasies he's doing. Agree that it doesn't make him look like a good character, but that's part of his marketing campaign of looking like a bad alpha male guy, for the marketing. Not knowing the full context and being case sensitive, allows a lot of speculation that's unnecessary. Highly likely this would be used against him now, not in any credible or solid evidence, but as a propaganda campaign and assassination attempts of his character overall. Expect a lot of distorted and generalizing hate towards him with little objectivity in part from the general public. Not sure from the Romanian court.

Is nobody going to bring up the Matrix movies and how they've had a negative impact on today's world?

I am not a passionate person, nor do I have any attachments to Andrew Tate other than entertainment value of his skits and marketing shorts. I've come to realize that, in my stages of development, cognition, morality, ego development, states of consciousness and life experiences and other lines of development in different areas of life, with my many ideologies indoctrinated into me, that I AM A ROBOT. A robot that emotes feelings and artistic visions. I am an artistic emoting ROBOT. As such, I have this insight that I'm inside my mind inside my head space most times, and less inside my body space. So, to space it out evenly Imma have to do tai chi, chi gong and stuff. There are definitely levels to this shit, empathy and understanding and all that. I'm more empathetic and understanding to Tate in that I was scammed, and knew some who had a hellish life experiences and very bad upbringing. Sometimes Andrew Tate's attitude, or values system of stage red/blue values is necessary for some who are in that kind of environment, so do realize that it's still needed in some parts of the world please, don't be naïve and unimaginative.

@lxlichael Dude, you are either drunk or high on some shit, come back to earth please. Also Greta is a teen.

@Jodistrict So, what's the alternative? Cap capitalism? Ditch capitalism and embrace communism?

@KH2 The great lesson here regarding this situation, is that fame and high success are traps. Nothing new here, most of human history is full of successful people getting trapped more and more into their successes. Only takeaway that I view as positive to modal from Andrew Tate, is ambition and drive, because at the end of the day in Andrew Tate's life, factoring in all the other forms of development, he ultimately decided, with intent, to pursue a kind of life that he feels himself would be fulfilling for him, and in making that choice he had to put will power into that decision. In the face of many obstacles in his way, he had to apply his will and drive and ambition into the journey he wants for himself, even if in his life's story it would land him here, in this situation of GRETA pursuing a criminal case against him on alleged claims of human trafficking, which is rich considering that Romania and it's neighboring countries have black markets for this types of dealings somewhere out there that we don't fully know about. So! Choose carefully where you go, what decision you make, and will power you invest, because life is also all about trade offs.

@hoodrow trillson Alleged to have committed some serious crimes such as human trafficking, which is yet to be solidly proven in court, yet. Honestly we still have to wait and see, because it's very tempting to claim this and that when slander and defamation is thrown around the room about a person's downfall. Let's wait and see if they actually have hard evidences and lists of witnesses to attest to his crimes. The cult of human personality at work, nothing new here other than the internet allowing this to proliferate far quicker than in the past. Again, alleged to have scammed people as well, as those link affiliation programs may not be fully scams in of themselves, because if that's the case, then you can also claim that all networking and attempts to collaborate and reach out to people of merit is a scam as well.

@lxlichael In an ideal society, part of the blame wouldn't be solely on Andrew Tate or people similar in mind and kind to him in the lower ends of society, they would extend to the people that made the Matrix movies for showcasing a fictional world that fabricates reality as well for coining this term we call THE MATRIX, So what? I can fight and win against Andrew Tate /=/ I can win against anyone and win, because I don't know, and I also can lose and also can be a draw as well. How is Greta a role modal? To be an environmentalist activist, in exchange for dropping out of education? I don't know if that's enough to justify dropping out of education for being some activist.

@Socrates Yes, it all boils down to bias, as well as stages of development, cognition, morality, personality typing, ego development, states of consciousness which is equal to life experiences, and other lines of development in different areas of life. Grooming, gas lighting, and all kinds of ideologies indoctrinated into your psyche from to uprising in one's culture. Plus sunk cost fallacy as it is uncomfortable to admit that you have supported a person of evil character, whatever the evil identification you label said person as, in direct proportion to the time and energy invested into believing and defending this person from their respective ideological oppositions.

@Carl-Richard The traffic police that could've been nicer. Sorry.

@Globalcollective Andrew Tate serves as just another form of entertainment and distraction, albeit a controversial one that some ideologically driven groups find distasteful, and other ideologically driven groups find exciting. His polarizing behavior arouses human emotions in us, which in a way still reminds us that we humans are still fundamentally relatively animals,

@Bobby_2021 While it's a bit ridiculous, there's some truth to that claim. Society is not only here for others to inspire other people, but societies exists to domesticate human beings into being civil, with morals and ethical codes enforced via education, and information ecologies of mainstream tv, radio, news outlets, social media websites that have algorithms catering to every biases and preferences of every user. This is why there's stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types and ego development, states of consciousness, life experiences and other lines of development in each area of life. This is also why every mind is similar and different, with different mental representations of the world around it, with all the ideologies it is indoctrinated growing up. These contrasts and differences in development exists because of many limitations and constraints in our reality that we have to abide by to some degree. This is the great cost of being not just human, but a finite thing, in a finite world.

@Karmadhi Both, and much more. But really, Andrew Tata is his own worst enemy.

@Bobby_2021 Yeah, I agree, you and me are truly stage yellow system thinkers, that I the admin and you an app, meanwhile most people here are truly yellow bellied twinkle-twinkle-little-stars napping on Banshees, Jeez. In this limited domain, I have unlimited Brit lion mane power that burns bright yellow. Jesus. Maybe we were insightful enough? Dude, we're still dealing with nine inch nails inside our eye lids to be righteous in our own violence! In my opinion, go and make Onision cook some onions like the minion he really is, while practicing your violin skills to be the serial killer of ear drums. I think that Andrew Tate is innocent until proven guilty otherwise, so it's unwise to be conspiratorial this time. All this due to lack of Bugatti's or a private jet or H3H3'S insipid remarks of his character, justified? We'll have to wait until all fools like him run the world that future time. Christ.

Another interesting video, both are deluded:

An interview by Lex Fridman to carl Hart and his views about psychedelics, hard drugs and society: What are your thoughts and feelings? Is his self bias at work here?

@Bobby_2021 Ah, I see. In which case, I'll wait and see what courts say. I don't like Greta and H3H3's takes about Andrew Tate, they're only based on what was marketed by Andrew Tate and short footages of him saying crazy shit. If his business was making apple pies and strawberry cakes, then it's a piece of cake to realize that they're mostly offended conditional virtue signaling to their fellow online progressive cults because they wouldn't have anything to say that's negative about him if his doing bakery stuff, in a less hustling way. I feel like the only stage yellow person here, stuck in between reds and greens. Reds are like "STOP! Or I dominate you!", and Greens are like "Go and BE COMPASSIONATE ALL THE TIME! WORLD PEACE! HE'S SEXIST BECAUSE HE MADE ME WET!", and I'm yellow, very cautious about escalating the cultural wars and information warfare because calls to good faith charitable steel manning of each other's perspectives are now called hate speech and trolling, Meanwhile, we all conveniently forget that Stage blue makes up 75% of the entire world, meanwhile stage orange is second because some countries or societies have much more or much less material and security in terms of economy and social infrastructures that makes capitalism work better, also all words don't rhyme with orange.

@Magnanimous No.

So much he said and she said in this entire thread! Do we have any solid proof that he is guilty of sex trafficking or not?

Happy new year!

@Ulax Agreed. It depends on many factors like SD stages of development, cognitive and moral development, 9 stages of ego development, personality types, states of consciousness and the quality of your qualia and emotions, life experiences and other lines of development of different areas of life, worldviews and paradigm lock, ideologies indoctrinated into your psyche by family and culture. Not only are these at individual level, but can scale up with varying levels to the psycho-socio, socio-economics, historical, geographical, technological development, information ecology and information and culture warfare. This, combined with how easily a mind can distort, delete, and generalize memories and information to suit one's self biases, this becomes very complex of a problem, involving many parts of your entire life together, interconnected to other problems as well.