Danioover9000

@Nilsi When I said the extreme left, I don't mean current online progressives, I mean the terrorists and freedom fighters and rebels, the chaotic groups that are willing to overthrow an establishment violently. Not keyboard warriors.

@Roy @mr_engineer Sounds like you both were geeks or nerds when you were kids. When I was a kid, I spent time playing chess, video games, drawing, and making my own pillows. Also a bit on DnD, and imagining other worlds and people to interact with, and sometimes to hump on. That's the reality of most children, the world and others are magical, and they feel good when touched the right ways, mentally speaking.

@Blackbeat Really? 1984 is overrated, it's comparable to apocalypticism every civilization entertains.

@Devin Tangent aside, let's come back to the main point of this thread, the differences between the conservative mind vs liberal mind. The video below illuminates the understanding you need to know both, in a DnD setting: Despite the thumbnail, please watch it. It's there when you're looking for it.

@Devin That's true, because when they took over Germany and established themselves, they no longer were extreme left like the terrorists or freedom fighters, so they became a Totalitarian/authoritarian government. Many decades before though, they were just a small party, not even, and had a vision, a Utopia, of what Germany could become. That, having a utopia vision, with a very small group, makes them extreme left.

@Devin They originally started as extremely left, and overtime swung to the right over time. Yes, because there was an already established power there, a more traditionalist right governance, and this little ideologies like Mau's revolution and Nazism, started extremely left, until they rapidly took power, became the new status quo, making them become the extreme right immediately after employing their authoritarian policies.

@Nilsi @Devin Both a difference in the government structures between the two countries, I think what's making this complicated is the historical conflict between the two. It may not even matter who started it, what's more important is, how do we negotiate in such a way that the two stop fighting each other?

@Nilsi To be fair, even though I agree here, I think it's specifically the extreme left that starts it, and then the alt right of that era maintains and finishes it.

@Emerald Well, then it maybe is a syntax and semantics issue, because when I was reading your post and questions, it was worded combatively. compared to my posts here, I wasn't as aggressive in my wording. Also, because of what I've been posting in page 1. I felt this was aimed more at me, not the OP, as I was making the comparison using the DnD example here:

@Devin Technically, Communism came from Russia, which inspired Mau to lead a revolution in China, so they're the problem then. If they never heard of Communism, the revolution would've happened much later.

@Nilsi @Tanz SO TRUE! But actually, those aren't considered the left, but Totalitarian/authoritarian structured governments. Maybe you two meant that extreme left? Or, the freedom fighters that are Communistic and Marxist? Historically Mau was inspired by Communism, although China and Russia then were more antagonistic to each other than the current relationship between the two.

@Emerald I don't mean this to come off as abrasive, but I'd not suggest when talking about the similarities and differences with the conservative mind vs liberal mind, with a subject matter that can itself be a 'thought terminating cliché' and trigger close mindedness and backlash, and increase likelihood of a heated debate here. A better alternative would probably be other mundane examples first, before going into the deep end of very dark topics, because most will just ignore, or will become combative. I'm assuming here a bit, as I'm similar in OP's thinking and positions in the past, but when I read that post, I immediately don't want to engage with your post.

@aurum Mainly because most brains of Progressive's, the area that 'spots the differences' and identifies problems, is much more active compared to conservative minds, which is why sometimes progressives appear more whiny and complains about issues, because sometimes that's literally what they see all the time.

@Ulax I'm a conservative, and I do class myself as a systems thinker.

@Sincerity Pretty sure it's like a colloquial slang, like if you did an amazing favor, or helped a lot, or gave solid and complicated advice, the other person's like 'Oh, he/she's SUCH A GOD!' or 'OMG!'. Happened to me when I helped a friend in need, the person found it amazing, but I kinda cringed a bit cuz it wasn't from my view but still felt good being called a god.

@Carl-Richard Words have power, and owning a name gains power, maybe, I think in demonology and the Kabbalah, big deal in those esoteric circles, plus numerology, where the 9,000 comes from. Also, not just written or spelt, but spoken. Every time I see your name tag, I gotta remind myself 'no, it's car-lull, not coral in the Walking Dead's pronunciation. It's a car and a lull.'

@Sincerity It's fine, own that name of yours proudly! If not, you can legally change it, for a fee in most places.

@Bob Seeker Way better than getting called 'Destiny', like what kind of guy names themselves with a feminine name? Lame.

@Devin I say, it's not enough role playing, or integration of the masculine/feminine ego shadows selves in the psyche. I've fairly integrated both ends, so I'm well balanced in myself so much that complaining about my loneliness or single status is beta and simpy at best. I've done enough personal development to find all those Alpha males like Andrew Tate or Joe Rogan, up to people like Destiny as lesser than me, as weak human beings compared to my holiness. Maybe it's the spiritual development I've done and some supernatural occurrences that makes these men's issues insignificant to me, I don't know, maybe I don't care enough, or other people's opinions are irrelevent?

@Epikur HAHAHA! Fresh and Fit? More like blue/red pill factory! Garbage channel, just like most Twitch streaming content, even comparable to Tik Tik. ? Can't even have a mature conversation with Mr. Girl.

@Epikur Um, I don't see this as an issue. What's wrong about the situation at large really? I know the problem is relative to stages of development, cognitive and moral development, personality types and traits, egoic shadows, states of consciousness, and other lines of development in various areas of life, and other ideological indoctrinations into one's mind from upbringing and other narratives. Personally, while I do understand the situation and plight of the Incel phenomenon, I have less empathy for them and this situations. What's the big deal?

@Schizophonia A conservative MINDED person, not the political ideology, is a reserved, sometimes militaristic in wanting to have routines and schedules laid out and done to the T, and fiscal generally. Conservatively minded people are more careful and cautious, and sometimes more morally intergroups than average people, even compared to a few liberally minded people, like this fiancée after the 6:00 mark:

@Carl-Richard Of course you can balance the two, but it's context dependent. A poor person struggling for employment and mortgages, would very likely agree with the 'you can't balance both self responsibility and compassion for others' because they themselves are in a situation that they need to care for their selves firstly before extending that outwards to another person in need, in comparison to someone like Destiny or Mr. Beast who have enough financial security that they could lob side the balance towards compassion for others.

@Someone here You want a very clear, distinct example of the differences between an extreme conservative and extreme liberal mind? Watch the video below, skip to 6:00 if you want, and that's as clear as night and day to me: At 6:00 onwards, it really shows how a conservative mind with a religious worldview vs liberal mind that identifies as Bi handles sexuality and role play. Also, some explicit wordy descriptions of the situations.

@Sincerity Generally for me, if I had too many insights, or too many of a good thing, I reduce or sometimes stop engaging with those activities for the time being, until it becomes less and I can manage. Interestingly, I have the exact opposite of your issue: I have been lately getting fewer insights, sometimes none. Any advice to uptake the insights on a daily basis?