Danioover9000

Really good story, shows stage red and why the right martial arts is important for fighting in real life:

What a fascinating story, coming from the realest place. Imagine being incarcerated in a level for aggravated assault and attempted murder, and only having some boxing, bare knuckled karate and wrestling for hand to hand combat: Great moral of the story, and why you shouldn't trust BJJ marketing and other fake martial arts.

@Husseinisdoingfine Good job collecting those videos, you are a hero.

@Breakingthewall How much more emphasis on punishment and sin than the other religions that it justifies an argument against Islam and not the other religious terrorists? Can you list some examples of Islam punishments?

@Breakingthewall Not necessarily the case. Maybe with the exceptions of Caliphate and radical groups like isis interpreting Islam through stage red, but the majority of the time Islam is solid stage blue, with deep roots to stage purple/turquoise spirituality and non-duality, like Sufism. If you're prepared to label Islam a hate based religion and argue that point, be prepared to label Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Paganism, Buddhism and other religions and religious nationalism as hate based and argue those points too. Those other religions have their own stage blue/red terrorists and radicals too. Even ANTIFA is a stage green terrorist group. One man's terrorist, is another man's freedom fighter.

@Raze Could you elaborate on the weak arguments and platitudes?

@PurpleTree By not taking sides, an arguer gets to both side an issue, AKA both siding fallacy, and use centrism to dodge and weasel to either side, or to pivot away when pressed too much on one issue. However, when you take a side, and stand, typically you can't easily pivot or change the goal post, but sunk cost fallacy can also happen.

@PurpleTree But the footage looks edited...

@PurpleTree Is this an actual video? Slavoj Zizek looks like he got edited into the footage.

@Scholar If all else is equal, and you were 3 years old, taken by a Sasquatch creature, grew up in the wilderness with big foots, and 15 years later you reenter into a human society, are those social dynamics obvious at that point when all the body language and tonalities and communications in your mind are from big foots and you?

@Leo Gura Those are quite a lot of rockets and some buildings bombed, Jesus. Halfway through, after they showed a child dead and the dad mourning, when the news anchor woman and the Israel correspondent talking, it was hard to watch and not get too emotional about it, Christ. 12:05 to 12:07 'At the moment we have to get the situation OUT OF CONTROL-the situation in control-' What a Freudian slip by the correspondent, Jeez. This is why don't speak too quickly.

@Raze That's terrible.

@Scholar This'll be my closing statement for this thread, and I'm done with this thread as evidence above the level of discourse has dropped down significantly: I think there's little justification, ethically and morally, for 70 years, after the Yom Kippur war and Israel defending itself successfully then getting parts of Egypt and other lands, to then oppression and segregating Palestinians forcefully, overtime, into Gaza, Israel needs to humble itself, it needs to outgrow it's Zionism and stop implementing a 2 party ethnostate, and Israel needs to take the higher moral ground, of offering a peace solution first. In regards to HAMAs, we're not justifying their actions, but consider that HAMAs is part of that fallout of Israel Zionism, and part of the cost of lives it's willing to pay for land grapping, just like with imperialism and colonialism and Neoliberalism. HAMAs is part of the fallout of Ethnocentrism and religious nationalism from Israel. I hope there'll be a peaceful solution and Israel grows up, and owns it's part of creating and maintaining this conflict one day.

@Scholar OMG, so a blunt tool to you is diplomatic solutions, of international countries and USA asking Israel to curb their ethnostate ethnocentrism religious nationalism a bit, slow down and stop land grabbing from the Palestinians for the past 70 years???

@UnbornTao Not a fan of Halloween?

@Leo Gura Their bible is called the Torah, which yes idolizes that specific land. So, on top of ethnocentric issues in Israel, we also have a religious nationalism as well, which also adds to the difference towards Palestinians because most Palestinians are followers of Islam.

@Sabth But of course not! Because to Zionist Israeli, Israel is their holy land, so they justify by pursuing an ethnostate that oppresses and mistreats Palestinians until, HAMAS, funded by Iran and others nearby, becomes part of that ramification of their ethnocentric ways, so they'll continue the land grab until all of Palestinians are converted into Israel as second hand citizens or are driven out into Iran or other regions. They don't care of the immigration crisis.

@StarStruck Does this justify Zionists leading a two state party system, an ethnostate like Israel, into oppressing and mistreating Palestinians for 70 years?

@Husseinisdoingfine Predictable he and his administration supports Israel, just IMO dishonorable given the data we have for the 70 years of Israel land grabbing. Time for a new president that'll make Israel more accountable and stop it's Zionism.

@Scholar The fact you can equate China's Oppression and mass genocide of Uyghur people, very similar to how Nazi Germany Oppressed and did the holocaust onto the Jews, to Israel's oppressing and mistreatment of Palestinians, but then turn around and accuse me and other users arguing for the unethical ways those Ethnocentric Zionists, with their 2 party ethnostate, mistreating Palestinians as biased and justifying HAMAs when we did stated we're not justifying HAMAs, and mix in Veganism to muddy discussion, is just profoundly amazing that you could sit there with this reasoning and not realize how bad faith your were to me and other users here.

@StarStruck Which is also called manufactured consent, because whatever media you consume, they can control the information feed to you, and present a one sided or distorted news, aka misinformation and propaganda.

@Scholar Why are you gaslighting me and others arguing against Israel's oppressing and mistreating the Palestinians?

@Scholar Why are you assuming some moral agency from me of moral duty of factory farms or other types of human suffering worldwide, when we're talking about why is Israel oppressing and mistreating Palestine for 70 years, which has nothing to do with other human sufferings and factory farms? Why are you assuming we're justifying HAMAs, when we're arguing and debating about Israel mistreating Palestinians? Why claim we're moving goal posts when you're swapping contexts left and right, change to other irrelevant contexts to write off and distract from talking about Israel/Palestine conflict? Why are you assuming we're too biased to see, or me too biased to see, when I can objectively see the power dynamic and power abuse from the Zionism in Israel's ethnostate structure onto Palestininas?

@Scholar No, point 3 is valid because America has deep neoliberal ideology and American hegemony to push for it's own western values and western democracy onto other countries, so of course it'll have interest in making Israel have it's western democracy. It's valid to claim some level of sabotage, why? Because Palestine has a different political bias and is more resembles older authoritarian structures in the past, similar to Iran and it's religion. We're not arguing for points 2 and 1. Again, stop introducing false irrelevant contexts like Veganism and mass genocides because we're talking about Israel's 70 years of oppressing and mistreating the Palestinians. Why are you so stubborn and why are you arguing in deep bad faith? Are you sure you're not a Zionist racist? Only an arguer identified with a group or ideology the arguer grows up from and benefits from will argue vehemently despite how blatantly immoral the Israel treats Palestinians.

@Scholar Again, I and @Raze and other users here are NOT arguing for why HAMAS is justified and right, we're all arguing for why Israel is in the moral wrong for oppressing, mistreating, and forcing Palestinians into smaller and smaller and smaller lands, and why Zionism Israelis that implemented the 2 party state are doing so because they want to preserve their ethnic race and nationalist identity. Word for word, this is exactly like Nazi Germany rhetoric! Why are you falsely claiming we're using colonization to justify HAMAS terrorism? If true we have a moral duty for just our own people, then we cannot give commentary and opinion and claim if an outside group or outside situations in the world, that are immoral, immoral? We don't have the right to call some people and some actions immoral? We don't have the right to assert with some corroborative evidence of our claims? We cannot debate and argue back and forth and exchange ideas and reasonings? We cannot objectively see the power dynamic and power differences between Israel and Palestine?