Derek White

Survival is love. ?‍♂️ Right now you identify as a child of your parents. Just change your identity to a student. Tell your self that you are a student and that you like studying, it’s as simple as that. Get this deep in your psyche with visualization. Of course it should feel authentic, if not then be someone else.

@VividReality Thanks for the video man ? It’s great?. I think that was smart of you to pull up the definitions and that did guide me to the answer. What I was asking was how should we live life? What our attitude should be? Like if you’re playful you don’t get anything done and if you’re serious It gets boring and so on. But yea I got the answer. I think we should look at life like a game (noun) and play (verb) it seriously (adjective). This would be involvement. Best way to play a game is to play it seriously. So in this way seriousness and playfulness are one and the same. Assuming you mean “where do I wish to ‘reside’?”, I currently reside near Vancouver, Canada. I think it’s great and don’t really wish to be anywhere else.

@Serotoninluv I guess I was wrong and stand corrected. Thanks for all the information.

@Codrina That’s not how it works. University profs and most scientists would disagree, that’s all I'm saying. If this was true than monarchs would make the best rulers. It would be blatantly obvious and taught to us in schools. I mean ya there are things science doesn’t know but this goes too far and is borderline eugenics. He shouldn’t involve science in it when it isn't really there. And I think it is inappropriate to say things like this in a country like India which is struggling with various forms of discrimination.

Lol, you overestimate. The current govt. is quite fascist, communal, and supports religious extremism (im no SJW lol). They made a terror accused woman who shot an effigy of Gandhi to commemorate his assassin’s birthday a minister. Look at what Modi is doing in Kashmir and did in Gujarat in 2002. Look at the state of media. Actually there is an economic crisis happening right now. The unemployment rate is highest in 45 years or something. Here are some videos with subtitles and facts that show the state of the economy. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yP6K7lKMIQE https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NtjkSuBVXl0

@Dumuzzi European society had a class system which was a lot less rigid than the caste system. The Mohenjo-Daro was part of the Harappa (Indus) civilization, which was wiped out partly by the Aryan invasion in around 2nd millennium BC. The caste system might be a form of rascism. This is from a textbook if you’re interested:

@Leo Gura I totally agree with social and psychological implications and I know genetics play a major role. But to say you can transfer skills through genetics; a gold smith’s son is better at gold smithing because genetics... idk seems far fetched. It may be true who knows but if it is it will have huge social consequences. Also, idk how smart it is to say it in front of a solid stage blue audience. They will gleefully think they are superior because of caste. Seems dangerous.

The book “The Medium is the Massage” by Marshal McLuhan talks about how the structure of a medium is way more important than the content of the medium. Although not exactly what you asked for, but it shows how for eg. just by reading a book, any book, your world view changes. It is must read if you want to delve deep into content vs structure. A medium is anything man made like glasses, a room, a house, etc.

I think I did in my 2nd post here I'll quote it. Yes, I agree with you that 2 swimming instructors can learn from a debate about improving their methods. This requires a lot of similar experiences and is sort of like pointing out a problem with someone’s math proof. However things become difficult once experiences are vastly different. Debating is a problem when say for example, you get into a debate about colour with a group of isolated blind people who have never met anyone who can see except you. In a debate the blind people will not believe you, tell you there are no colours, and they’ll call you a liar. To prove to them colour exist they need to see, otherwise it’s just a belief, they don’t know. If they say “maybe you’re right” it ceases to be a debate, it become a conversation. Root of the word debate is ‘to fight’ and root of the word conversation is to converse. J Krishnamurti does good conversation or if you prefer very high quality debates with people which you should check out. if you’re interested in spiritual debates.

@Nak Khid Did you read my 2nd post? That refutes this and most of what you wrote. Saying Yes or No to my questions is not debating or productive. You need to have an explanation. No, you can absolutely not learn swimming by debating. You need to practice in the water to do that. Can't believe this isn't common sense lol. Your definition of a debate is quite low if you consider that debating. That wouldn't fly in a scientific university setting. Only way you would win a debate with a person with different experiences is if that person has bad debating skills or you two agree to disagree. Anyway, moving beyond your mental model should be the goal. That's when real spiritual work begins.

Also, it is pretty obvious you can never win a debate with Zakir Naik no matter how hard you try. Contrast him with any Spiritual person (Jk, Sadhguru). Good Debater =/= Actualized Also, (lol) you cannot articulate your experiences to people who haven't had them. So you may be saying something but people won't get it because in their experience it is not true. Debates require logic and logic relies on old experience. Their logic would be different than yours because of experience. Debates = Logic = past experiences/info. (shared; both debaters need to have similar experiences) Therefore, debates don't lead to new experiences. They can utmost inspire you to seek what you don't know, but even that needs pretty high level of development.

@Nak Khid The videos you point to are not debates and Sadhguru has criticized debating himself. They are very very limited and won't take you all the way to Ultimate Truth. You cannot teach people swimming, or connect them to being with debates. You cannot debate people properly with different experiences than you. Reality cannot be put into mental models. Point of a debate is to pit one mental model against another. I recommend you watch the dialogue between J. Krishnamurti and David Bohm to see how much better a dialogue is than a debate.

@mandyjw Living/breathing is itself an act of survival and instinctive. You believing you only have on life may not be true either. Yes, ideally men should have no sex drive, be super conscious sages but that’s not where everyone is right now. Why is it so wrong to teach men how to get women to have sex in a consensual, non-damaging way, and legal way with them? Maybe because if you’re a women (women generally prefer monogamies) you don’t want men to learn how to seduce women; maybe that way they would be forced to be monogamous. But know that women’s survival need of one partner and men’s survival need of many partners is at odds, so perhaps you need to see past the female self bias. Also, previously you only a male mind would come up with rules for attraction. But it is beneficial to come up with them. I’m sure you have them too (nice guys are assholes, etc.). Attraction is not at all mysterious, it can largely be explained logically to develop a strategy. Men with better strategy attract more women and vice versa. Best strategies are those that benefit both partners, creating a win-win situation. Sorry if I come across as rude or mean but I don’t mean any offence.

@MsNobody When people talk they talk like that. Saying “10 per day” doesn’t mean he is making women look like animals. He is saying talk to 10 women per day so you can get good at attracting women, because for men attracting women is harder than it is for women to attract men,generally. He has also talked about sexism in the PUC many many times. Maybe you would understand his advice if you were a 25 year old virgin man who got rejected many times. Same wordings are used when helping people make friends. Also, I’m just curious, would you consider bikini models, pornstars, and actresses to be objectifying women? What about men/women who admire their beauty? This ”objectifying”, get used a lot but in my judgement it is not properly defined. Both men and women “objectify” each other based on body parts (height, race, breasts, butt, muscles), mind (personality, IQ, EQ), and social standing (career, money) when finding a partner.

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Real Truth cannot be spoken or communicated. Also, what is meant by telling the truth is being honest with yourself, not necessarily being honest with other people. Telling the ‘truth’ to other people can get you or other people into trouble. There are so many situations where telling the truth would make you an asshole, this should be common sense. Life is complex, merely sharing your perspective every time won’t solve all your problems. It could get you killed even.

@Meditationdude Hey if you're really serious about this you should check out the post I made a while back, it can save you a lot of time, and I mean years. Here's the link: (Just FYI, remember don't let anybody tell you that doing just one simple mindless activity will solve all your problems, life is very complex. You need thoughts. Also, your next step should be to do shadow work, because chances are you have subconscious thoughts you are probably not conscious of, which causes you to have emotional problems.)

@Leo Gura So I have insights about reality being one, and there being no-self. How do I live and survive knowing all this. It seems that to survive you need to create an arbitrary division in reality and identity with it. Meaning you need to lie to yourself. So basically how do you live seeing that you are everything and knowing that to live a good life you need to identify with something?

@Salvijus You can say that for anyone doing anything stupid. This is authoritative thinking. Careful. If sadhguru chops off your leg tomorrow would you say he did because he sees 1000 steps ahead of you and you just don't understand him? Lol

@atlanticgirl Hmm that's weird... I guess that's somewhat expected. Just take advantage of the practices and screw the volunteers then. Oh and by the way, did you visit any of their consecrated places? What were they like?

@atlanticgirl This is just how WE Indians do things. We like to memorize everything and have our presentations highly scripted. I think this is a cultural difference you experienced. Like you mentioned, you are Canadian. Canadians are famous for being nice. However other cultures don't share this trait. In India we are not polite and don't smile that much. Also we have terrible customer care compared to Canada. But that doesn't mean we are mean or rude; we just have different definitions of these words. I know these things to be true since I have lived in both countries for a very long time. When I came to a Canadian high school I noticed everyone was so relaxed and had a 'whatever' attitude, which I thought was weird until I realized that's just how people roll here. In India everyone is uptight and likes to memorize. So, IDK if you can say for sure that sadhguru made them memorize everything. Maybe they did it on their own, it seems like an Indian thing to do? Maybe there English isn't that great so they memorize everything? idk. I would probably do they same if I never came to Canada b/c that's what I was taught there (u know the thing sadhguru is trying to change about india's edu. system). But I don't get how you claim they are stage Blue? Just b/c they like memorizing doesn't make them stage blue. You should provide more info.

Hey guys!, I got this new insight about observation which I would like to share and I think will really help anybody trying to become aware. So it started out when I was trying to be aware but every time I did so it would break my flow. Flow as in I would be doing an activity, say cleaning the garden, and I would be in FLOW and then I would remember, "OH I need to be aware!" and then my flow would break. You see, the whole point of being aware is WATCHING not controlling so I was confused b/c I wasn't able to be self-aware when I was in FLOW, I was trying to control awareness. THEN, after a while, it just hit me that the problem is that thought has divided the world into fragments and when we generally say "be aware", we mean observe the fragmented self, the part of the world which you call "you," (usually your thoughts and the area located between the forehead and behind the eyes). BUT, see this idea of self false. You have divided the world into fragments and claim one fragment to be you, but this isn't the case. YOU ARE all the fragments. Flow is the flow of attention and hence is not a distraction, and there are not distraction, just the movement of attention thought can't control. You are not the experiencer, the observer, or the thinker. The observed is the observer. This is pretty easy to see intellectually also and I kinda knew that (n u shld too if u r into spirituality). So the 'self which is in flow', and the 'self not in flow' are same. Once you see this you realize you are choicelessly aware no matter what you do. That's because no matter what state you are in, that state is you. The problem is when we, new spiritual seekers, try to be self-aware we try to maintain a continuous attention on our fragmented idea of the self. But once you see that you are everything it will become much easier to observe yourself. Generally we think being in the 'flow' is being getting lost in activity and hence not being aware but it's actually the opposite; true meditation is always being in flow. Of course to actualize this you need to viscerally experience this, but intellectual understanding should help.

@outlandish idk if at the time of this video he was. I think when this was shot he was just getting into spirituality or just playing coy. Also remember that it’s a series of videos not just this one, if you open it in youtube you should see a playlist of the whole discussion.

@loub Krishnamurti has been great for me. Haven't withdrawn from life though. I've read Freedom From The Known which I recommend if you're interested. The thing with Krishnamurti is that there is no teaching or method. He's just revealing to you how things are. I don't think he wants you to 'change' or 'be more productive'. He is saying that what we call change is not real change. Like a selfish man saying he doesn't want to be selfish is saying so out of his selfishness. So naturally, Krishnamurti says be selfish and just watch that because whatever you want to change to is an idea which is formed from your past experiences. So it's just the past repeating itself. So just watch, if you want to 'change' even then just watch. Imo he's saying just watch whether you're thinking, working, being lazy, trying not to be lazy, just watch. There are plenty of videos of him where he addresses why we don't change:

We here usually talk about psychedelic experiences that can bring about enlightenment, supposedly, but what about Sadhguru's greatest creation? He spent like 2 to 3 lifetimes creating it so serious spiritual seekers should give it at least a try. If you have been there please let me know how it felt/ you experienced it. P.S: Also, if Leo's reading this let us know if you experienced something similar to DMT if you have been there. Or if not then maybe, if you want to, let us know if you plan to in the future.