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Hi there. The title is not a alluding to a direct comparison, but the inspiration for it derives, in part, from the observation that having witnessed neophytes using both DMT (as caapi changa) and 5 Meo (as Bufo Alvarius toad venom), all 3 such individuals rated DMT as more amazing and profound. Admittedly, the sample size is not large, but it prompted some reflection on my part, along the lines that ones previous experience (which thus governs expectations) and the innately human criterion of profound reliance on visual perception can serve as an obstacle to evaluating whatever experience one has been blessed with. Having experienced oral and vaporized DMT many times before the chance to experience 5 Meo crossed my path, I concur with most who have savoured the latter and would regard it as effecting an experience more profound than the former. What both do have in common in my estimation is having the same requirement to utterly surrender to the process as it unfolds, and in some ways holding on to the mindset of submission is more of a feat with DMT because it typically does not breakthrough to a point of singularity which 5 Meo can evoke where the concept of surrender becomes a nostalgic notion. So, I hear you ask, where does vaporhuasca enter the picture? My single experience of vaporhusaca consisted of oral ingestion of the pharmaceutical RIMA, moclobemide, at a dose of 300mg followed some 2 hours later by 30mg of freebase DMT, vaporized in a Glass VaporGenie via a single inhalation. Of course, all salient precautions need to be taken when using such a MAOI-A in terms of possible interactions with many compounds and this does require some diligent preparatory research. This combination provides 45 minutes in breakthrough territory where the possibility of being "a mindful observer" is not an option, as one is drenched in cascades of information which is relentless, unrestrained and beyond resisting if one hopes to traverse the territory with a modicum of sane functioning afterwards. The information was imparted by what I could only describe as "Not I", an extraneous source which was ancient, wise and masterful; the visual aspect of which I retain the merest memory was as if a lens had been utilised to alter the focus which rendered the impressive standard-DMT visuals into concretions which were beyond the HD of the norm. The end-point of the experience, the pinnacle, gave some of the insights of the 5 Meo peak, but if you imagine the latter as being a turbo-charged elevator to the heights, the vaporhusaca was like being forcefully dragged up the numerous flights of stairs to the same podium. Much more jarring and demanding, a different kind of labour and one which, if someone held a gun to my head and compelled me to the same combination again or alternatively 5 Meo in a pipe, I would without hesitation opt for the latter. 5 Meo has on occasion been described as a shortcut to "the gnosis" and I would by and large agree, and whilst shortcuts have their utility, it would seem that vaporhuasca is even more of an obscure venture and one which, I firmly believe, has a firm role in filling in the blanks which exist in the "suburbs" of the infinite void. Needless to say, this work is advanced but I would suggest offers an instructive route to these oh-so far reaches, even if experienced only the once.
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Corpus replied to Corpus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I hear you Leo, but experientially the transition to this putative "other" was so rapid- beyond what would be "comparatively" tame with the same dose of DMT, unenhanced - that it was to all intents and purposes, exogenous. And I do not anticipate a next time- once was utterly sufficient. The amount of reports of breakthrough doses of effectively vaporized freebase DMT on the back of full MAO- inhibition are surprisingly few and I for one can appreciate why this might be. I also think that there is something utterly unique about vaporized tryptamines in terms of the distance they can propel the user and should not be dismissed without experiencing them at least once. Trite phrases like "You had to be there", or "Do it, and then you'll know" have a counter-intuitive validity when applied to these activities. One simply has no idea of vaporhuascas capacity to deliver something monumentally epic without having vaporised DMT, and even then the elevation of the bar further is similar to the difference between say oral DMT and the vaporized trip in terms of profundity. -
Corpus replied to Corpus's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
MAOI affects both vaporized and oral DMT, both qualitatively and quantitively in the "same" way that it affects psilocybin in psilohuasca but when it comes to vaporized DMT one does not have the "leisure" of a 2-3 hour come-up and the directness of the delivery makes the venture number 1 in the list of extreme psychedelia that I have ever experienced. I have not tried plugging DMT salt but have heard good reports on this ROA. I never thought of it in terms of being channelled but that's an interesting take on it. I would also not call whatever "possessed" me as a guide- the term Drill Instructor would be more fitting. The attempt to maintain observer status was comprehensively wrenched away rendering me into a mere puppet who was going to be shown, whether I wanted to be shown or not.
