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AA philosophy lines up with what I understood from book 1 Conversations Aith God, the book is potentially quite a pure teaching. From memory Carl Jung assisted in writing it Try to integrate the teachings whilst tolerating or ignoring the difficult people you meet

I’m 24 and starting an industrial electrical apprenticeship. I get paid to learn an incredibly sought after trade and grow my cognitive ability as mathematics is essential for this job. I’m excited to use my maths brain again and might be able to tackle Gödel Escher Bach finally haha I was pursuing music for a little while, even met some incredibly successful people who gave me inside information into the industry. And I realised I don’t want to make short form content, ever. I want to bin my iPhone actually as soon as my work allows for it haha. I want to do my time, get incredibly skilled at this blue collar skill. My passion for music remains, as does my nascent joy of tinkering. I’m getting visions of using my time off to invent new instruments with therapeutic application, to create one of a kind synthesisers using foraged materials, repurposing discarded amplifiers etc. Eventually I see myself leaving the industrial/manufacturing sector, only working in renewable energy. Having my own property and workshop where I can use my skills creatively and with full integrity. I also have informal qualification in permaculture so want to live close to nature and semi off-grid. Admittedly I am conforming. I worry about the economy, I worry about never having property, I worry about being in a career that is replaced by AI (electrical/instrumentation will be one of the last professions to be replaced). On the flip side, I’ve spent my early adulthood starting projects that I keep quitting. I have an excellent understanding of business development and have dabbled in each area (lead gen, marketing, sales, ad building etc), and I hate it, I hate selling shit that isn’t worth selling, I hate these bullshit artist jobs where I am inflating people’s emotions, I feel like I can’t see straight after a days work. I feel like if I go full steam on art and work odd jobs there is a genuine chance I’m going to fail financially, which jeopardises my other ambitions (health, spiritual, owning property etc.), if I go full ball on business I’ve gotta go full steam and jeopardise my creative ambitions. I’ve had a go, I’m not special, I’m not amazingly talented, and it’s time for me to go back to school haha. This doesn’t exclude me from my ambition and passion for life, I’m humbled by the enormous organisational and effort it takes to go 100% your own way, and have enormous respect for Leo and all of you that are choosing this path. As soon as I start work I’m enrolling in one of Peter Ralston’s courses to keep myself growing whilst I work for the man. By the time I’m 28-29 I’ll have a skill that I can work 6 months of the year with for excellent pay if I want to, or charge a high rate for contracting. Then I can use the rest of the year to grow, create etc. I’ve got my own music/creative computing projects to keep busy with along the way.

Shit fight… You sound Aussie haha Appreciate your response, avoiding domestic like the plague. Have met some bad apples already for whom safety is a bottom priority.

The energy expenditure and cost of “humanoids” wouldn’t be feasible for a lot of businesses. A company that creates a humanoid robot has got to source materials and for the thing, then there will be the companies margin on top. Most businesses will not pay that, also they’d still need a human to maintain the humanoid. Unless we evolve to some insanely advanced society and someone invents cybernetic physical robots yeah everyone is out of a job, I think that’s a ways off.

So good they can’t ignore you is a really interesting frame for LP. To me it’s about playing your cards to the best of your ability. The example of Steve Jobs (which I honestly don’t know is true), of being a spiritual seeker, but getting involved in tech because there was market potential, then putting all his creativity into it (e.g. being so granular with quality that he made the microchip that nobody ever sees a thing of visual beauty), is interesting. It levels the playing field for those who aren’t child prodigies in terms of creating meaning in their lives - David Deidas concept of purpose comes in layers and waves, and will hit you like a bolt of lightening in the form of a vision if you limit distractions. He also gives the example of “giving your gift”, as stuff you pick up along the way; In WOTSM there’s the image of the businessman who gets bored and goes and shares his skills with a NFP for free, full commitment until someone becomes his patron. Do you think that character was a 15 year old dreaming of doing the equivalent of clerical work for a NFP? Maybe, but to me that’s an image of someone who is going through life, building skills somewhat reactively then using them to the best of their ability as their sense of meaning dies out. Leo’s process of defining values, defining a clear purpose, shooting for that North Star is obviously a recipe for success. He has proven it himself. I think Owen Cooks view of purpose is similar, it’s like pick a lane, make sure you believe in it, you’re not going to like it all the time, but stay with it and the joy of mastery is your reward. If you’re 15, and you choose roller hockey because you love it, and just never take your eye off that, I know people who’ve built their careers in this way.

Hunting is a better rite of passage as a man imo. Can be done sustainably (very good for the environment if you target pest animals) and with respect, can cut out a huge expense (meat) financially once you’re setup, connects you to nature and primal instincts. Also there’s a huge amount of physical labour involved in harvesting, hiking etc. With military you’re trained to shoot other humans in the face often to steal their country’s resources.

Honestly might help you bust through stage red. And there’s all the government benefits you get. Make sure you’re actually shooting for a skill though and don't sign your life away. Like doing some combat bootcamp is not going to turn you into a man unfortunately, I think it’s a longer road than that. A draw to military would be you come out of it with an actual trade that allows you to make an ethical living with flexibility. Like if you became a plumber in the military (idk if that’s an option in your country) you’ve ticked off the employment rung of the hierarchy of needs

Psychoslouch: Someone who takes psychedelics without any prior research, doesn’t way their dose of mushrooms, takes them at parties. Has never heard of DMT Nexis and has only read trip reports by accident. Watched Instagram reels and texts their friends whilst tripping on acid.

@Leo Gura your blog post about marketing. Definitely good to know in my situation as I do B2B sales - you’ve said in the past that Actualized.org could not be successful without the money you made from marketing, and you popularised your recent work with SEO. what approach should you have taken to start and grow Actualized.org instead of the route you took?

imo Marketing is communicating that your product physically exists by posting an advertisement somewhere visible, whilst persuading people to buy your product/service. Marketing is in essence manipulative. Leo built Actualized.org by buying time with money earnt from owning a marketing agency.

@Leo Gura Have you ever considered transcribing and organizing all of your work into a structured format, then creating an API from it to upload into a GPT model that people could interact with live—similar to the Integral GPT on Ken Wilber’s website?

Fair, I'll fully consider your perspective. I guess I'm not from the US so I don't really see how high rates of illegal immigration effects your society, in Australia there are definitely issues but there is also a lot of needless racism towards vulnerable people. I'm not denying the crime rates of people from underdeveloped nations and examples like Germany where there are increases in sexual violence and public drug use, but the Trump administration seems to go overboard e.g. revoking VISAs of university researchers.

People who hide behind the strawman of "but it's illegal immigration" have never tried filling out an American immigration document

APIs can be updated with new information constantly, definititely could discourage independent thought as if people had a question about reality they could ask ChatGPLeo and not look indward. On the other hand, Leo mentioned in his Life Stages video that it's much more effective if he was able to coach people 1to1 on these topics; a GPT would fill this gap potentially. It is another way of consuming information, like Youtube, like reading a forum, it's talking to a GPT, I don't think it's anymore deceptive perhaps more effective. These kinds of condensed APIs is a huge LP opportunity imo, imagine condensing all of Stan Grof's work into an API, and a GPT pulled information only from that body of work, it could really help people integrate psychedelic trips if they don't have immediate access to an expensive guide. Not a replacement to effective care or primary source insight but could be a great placeholder. These are just different ways of delivering information.

It's about a philosophy professor who goes into academia because he wants to discover the secrets of the universe, he is in his 70s, lecturing a room of students and whilst teaching he realises his assumptions about reality are so fundamental to the point that he imagines the duality between himself and the students he has spent his life teaching. And that he doesn't understand reality and that he didn't realise his dream. The lyrics if you can't understand: I’ve collected thoughts for so long my chair’s a moving throne. My mind’s a spiral staircase I’ve barely walked alone. I’m realising lately, my thoughts aren’t all my own lost in my own language Even more without it so I am a liar my thoughts are sounds my words are heavy they land somewhere not on the ground who knew all along I was making me and you painting us like a picture I thought I was looking for truth I want to know what this is was I taught truth as a kid how it works the whole system I don’t know what you hear but it looks like you’re listening Professor Sophistry (Headache Inspired Version)-1.mp3

A quick song I made, my poetry but read by AI - Headache inspired voice (he is an artist if you haven't heard of him). It's about a philosophy professor who goes into academia because he wants to discover the secrets of the universe, he is in his 70s, lecturing a room of students and whilst teaching he realises his assumptions about reality are so fundamental to the point that he imagines the duality between himself and the students he has spent his life teaching. And that he doesn't understand reality and that he didn't realise his dream. Professor Sophistry (Headache Inspired Version)-1.mp3

A page from truth vs falsehood by David Hawkins

Osho’s village was largely Green and arguably got pretty violent

don’t worry everyone Yelp will quality assure roof plumbers

Leo’s advice on this thread is gold Id take it if I were you. I was a 21 year old virgin, had sex for the first time after fumbling multiple pulls to my own and other girls apartments. I went out every single day for months at a time, faced severe sleep deprivation, approached girls on weeknights at 8pm and at times was mistaken for a homeless begger. I have a thread on losing my virginity from a few years ago. I lived with my main wing who was a hard cases and worked almost as hard as me at dating with no success, years on and they’re still a virgin. Fundamentally they needed to ground themselves and be more honest. Honest that they were sloppy with their fashion, had psychotic views of women and fundamentally didn’t respect them, was closed minded to things like therapy and inner work, were addicted to their phone, didn’t go out that much and couldn’t hold a normal conversation with a girl without trying to game or manipulate her in some way. After tireless attempts to coach and at times strong arm my friend into pulling himself together I realised he needed time and a series of hard reality checks to get his act together.

What country are you in? if I could go back in time I would have dropped out of school, completed a solar electrician apprenticeship. Read a book a week, socialised with positive peer groups, saw a therapist regularly, took leave from work when possible to do personal development activities like holotropic breathwork retreats, then once fully qualified be a self-employed electrician and financially backed my life purpose (music). Do lots of business seminars that I would could claim on tax. Ideally I’d go take my trade van to an under serviced location for 6 months, work really hard & make bank, then make music for the other half of the year. Possible with business acumen and strategy. this journey is really personal and your values are also going to change with life experience, so you you’ve got to make the call for yourself. If there’s a 1% chance you’ll need uni for your LP I’d say stick it out and at the end of school you’ll be what 18, 19? Not a waste of time if it ends up contributing to you let LP.

Locking this - I’m not discounting the possibility that you have been abused, but advise you should present such evidence and claims to Leo in a PM, as I believe this post breaches guidelines in the following ways: Ganging up on other members, starting factions that splinter the community. Spreading rumors and gossip. Attempts to undermine or damage Actualized.org, staff, or employees.

It is against community guidelines to post whilst intoxicated