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“Man is by nature a social animal; an individual who is unsocial naturally and not accidentally is either beneath our notice or more than human. Society is something that precedes the individual. Anyone who either cannot lead the common life or is so self-sufficient as not to need to, and therefore does not partake of society, is either a beast or a god. ” I think Aristotle writing this didn't know how close to the Truth he was.

You can mix harmala or other MAOi plant with DMT to make Changa, but you should read more about it first. But making and smoking changa made from 5-MeO can be frightening or even deadly (for real) thing.

@cetus56 Hahaha Yeah, it was pretty something like that @Leo Gura Oh yes! I notice it also on mushrooms and on lower doses of 4-HO-MIPT. But this time I felt and could appreciate, how much effort God put into this joke and how much infinitly smart you need to be, to fool yourself when you are infinitly intelligent.

I'm silent on this forum and I'm only observing discussions for something about 4 years and this is my first post. I write because I have to share with you all this trip-raport and my insights, because of how this awakening was significant to me. Recently I got my biggest awekening yet on 50mg of 4-HO-MIPT, which is legal in most countries in Europe. I've got my awekening experiences before on changa (smokable version of DMT), psilocibine, 2CB, holotrophic breathing and even marijuanna ( I'm highly psychoactive person and I use it for meditation purpose, maybe I will write about it later). Even thou my previous awekenings where profound, there where mostly about my place in the world and me as the the ultimate infinite being. This time it was all about the main property of God which I found is not love - it's clownery. GOAL, SET & SETTING, SUBSTANCE PROPERTIES My main goal of taking 4-HO-MIPT, which I used to take before, but mostly for social reason (its really fun and joyful substance on low doses 10-20 mg), was to check spiritual potential of this drug, which seems to me like a good tool for inner work, beacuse it's cheap and easily accessible in my country. I also wanted to experiance ultimate love and "INFINITE LOVE" was my most focused thought when i was taking the substance. I take it orally, alone in closed room with closed and covered windows without music. It kicks in very fast - I got peak after 30 min, which lasts about 2-3 hours. The body load is terrible, it's the main downside of this drug - not comparable with any other psychodelic I used to take. The trip takes about 6-8 hours, and feeling is the same as on the psylocibine, but you don't fell that much connection with the nature or some high spirits like I used to feel on mushrooms. Since my last shamanic breathing retreat, which last week I start experience the presence of so-called mechanic elves on almost every spiritual activity, for some reasons it feel like some being and whole reality itself starts observing me on my spiritual work. Even when im writing this I have exact same feeling of some presence near me - hellow guys (I will write my current thoughst about this entities later). TRIP After it kick's in I could barerly move and had to close my eyes, because the visual where so intencive. I cannot even concentrate on my goal of this trip - experiencing the ultimate love. I start noticing tension in my spine and shoulders - it's hard to categorize this feeling, which I had when I'm excited and have burst of power to do something or when I should do something but cause of my neurotic procrastination I don't do - then the feeling is the same like on highly stress situation and sometimes I have even suicidal thoughst because of feeling of hopelessness. The feeling where terrible and I really wanted end this trip no matter of costs. At some point I started not feeling differance between my feelings, thougst and what I saw with eyes closed and open. Only things I saw when I got the clarity of vision where those badass big faces with eyes everywhere like on Alex Grey paintings. I heard multiple voices everywhere, laughs and what terrified me the most - the sound I remember from taking DMT, something like jumbojet starting in your head. The visuals from psylocibine organic something like living flesh structure type, which I had at the beginning of trip, transform to DMT type, which is for me like aztec/mayan multidimension art looking like million geometric mechanic snakes entwining my room. Then I feelt like this feeling in my back snapped, which was so fucking ecstatic I start rolling on my bed and from other person perspective it could looked like I was in great pain but it was such a great pleasure for me. After that I propably had something like few minutes blackout after, which I remebered seeing structure like blooming mechanic flower, and hearing the unspeakable story of god creating it self. And... dude, kill me pls CLIMAX & INSIGHT I heard the main reason of God creating reality - it was like one of those silly jokes, which takes soooo loooooong to tell and point of it is so fucking stupid, you want to kill person who tell you this, for wasting your time. But in this case it's telling yourself as God joke soo long for billions of years, you forget the "funny" part of it, which is everything is not what it is and suddenly you catch the joke you was telling yourself. It's something like kids having fun of you by telling you that dog eat your last cookie, but you don't understand it and after few days you get they where making fun you, just for sake of laughing at you for beliving them. It's like you telling yourself longest and most unfunny joke ever, which is at the same time soo funny becouse of it's silliness. I was laughing continuously till the end of trip (4-6 hours). I still have moments of random laughter attack. I forget the essance of this joke, which is unspekable, which makes it even more funny, because you just can't say it and even if you try it's so hard to understand this joke. God is silly jester, which is telling himself the same joke, infinitly for eternity. And facture of universe is love, which is like the story in this joke. And that's a total shift in my perspective of spirituality. Reality is joke, enlighten one are the ones who get the joke, you no more fear death cause you want it, beacuse you again got pranked by yourself, and you feel soo silly and stupid after this (I remeber I was laughting so hard and yelling at me "Oh you the Oldest Prick! Kill me, I don't want too hear it again you infinitly dum dum! I won't be fooled again!... oh wait I will xD". And God is jester pranking it self infinitly ! What about this filling of presence of other entities - now for me it's like the God it self divide himself in non material beings, to guide and watch himself getting pranked and having laught of himself. In more materialistic type of thinking it could be mental/language/thought virus, which help's your brain understand why in higher conscious state, you see all as full of life and clownery (but these are only my loose thoughst). And that's all for me is even more radical perspective, then thinking that all is love - holocauste and war was for joke, jesus died on cross soo you can understand the joke, all spiritual work is about understanding and getting the joke. And you are the joke - you infinitly silly prankster That's it. I'm comming back to work on my foolery, to ultimately get the joke. I hope to get to know other crazy properties of God soon