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@Zeroguy It's alright, you have my respect. I don't think you deserve to be banned or anything. But really think about how this forum perceives you, I was not the only one misinterpreting what you said.

@Zeroguy Ok I am sorry. Please don't joke about suicide though or say that anybody's suicide is understandable like this. It is really hard to distinguish between what you mean seriously and what you do not mean seriously, I hope you are aware of that. I appreciate your concern and I am sorry I was not able to recognize it.

@Zeroguy I honestly assumed that you saying that you would understand Leo's suicide was not meant seriously.

@kinesin Zeroguy is not a serious person, read his history.

It does not necessarily require more time from you. Your videos are amazing these days, I actually watch them. It just takes to replace each comment of yours that justifies objectifying of women with a more well rounded one that considers both perspectives. This forum is becoming locker room talk.

@Leo Gura Sure, you cannot really avoid that, but there is space to improve the way you communicate, no? Just like there are spiritual teachers who get the message across in a more gentle way or a more direct way and that is not random, they are quite consistent in doing what they are doing. It is a conscious process. You might say people will always misinterpret things and you cannot be more right. But the extent to which girls and queer people are bullied on this forum is crazy. And this aversion is also limiting the extent to which people are capable to arrive at a more objective understanding, it is not just a mechanism that limits the amount sensitive people get butt hurt in discussions, it comes from a place of huge shadow. For example you often summarize stage green as social justice warriors who do meaningless things. And perhaps they do kind of meaningless things if you look at it from the big scale, the global scale. And anything on the global scale can be seen as quite meaningless. But then these social justice warriors with the liberal opinions are then the ones who are actually going to vote for Bernie. And the ones who have a green shadow won't, unless they are blindly following you. And then Syria gets bombed, minorities get oppressed etc. It is not a soft issue of people having biased views, you have one million subscribers on youtube, you have some influence on people and if your audience is mostly stage orange insecure men, they will go tunnel vision mode on dating advice and get only incel perspectives. Incel perspectives are still prevalent here, although they have been banned together with all the different pills and JP. For example, in one thread, a guy said that a girl did not give him consent, but then "his penis just slipped inside somehow". Anybody who has experience with sex would understand how much of a bullshit this is, it cannot happen so easily unless you're bathing in lube. It was non-consensual sex and nobody called it out on the thread. People actually insulted that girl. And god knows what kind of individual that was, maybe she was traumatized and did not want to have sex, and even though the OP claimed she enjoyed it, it might not have been true and you have to tell these inexperienced guys about how consent is important, how communication is important etc... You are not treating this issue justly if you do not change your style of communication at all. Although you tell people to go read some feminist texts and you say things such as "a true man is a feminist", which I totally agree with, the rest of what you say totally overshadows that. And people think sex is only physical, they value one night stands over relationships, they have become the opposite of strictily monogamous christians. And that is even with you mentioning in the "How To Make a Girl Squirt" video, which works amazingly well by the way in a long term relationship while being useless in a one night stand, that being comfortable is so important. And sure, tell the girl you want to fuck her hard and eat her out and shit so she can overcome her sexual shame. But then also a part of that is consent and communication which is not common sense for our boys here. They don't understand what women go through. Preety India is an Indian woman. I experienced night Mumbai myself, that place is fucking scary even for guys. And all these men justifying rape and non-consensual sex can be so traumatizing. These guys from 1st world countries don't understand why feminism is so fucking important, because they grew up in utopia. Don't you think it is important to teach them that? They cannot just skip through spiral stages. Like you literally have your best moderators leaving, because of their gender. Ananta was the most efficient person to avoid spam on this forum after probably you. She is gone now, because the insecure guys could not appreciate her, because she was such a good moderator, that they did not even realize that there were spammers here because she banned them so quickly. All these submissive, feminine, queer guys being told that they need to be what they are not. Sure, they should integrate, but they can also find somebody suitable for them and do what they like, they don't need to appeal to some Actualized.org gender roles. All these people trying to "adjust reality" to their gender binary views. Asking questions like how does my model that only includes feminine and masculine explain switch dynamics, homosexuality or trans? It is ridiculous really, you even made a video on this, but it has less views than most of the other videos, because people are not interested in gender. I guess it might cost you another portion of your fanbase. But are you going to do this for truth? Motivating others to seek understanding and mutual understanding? Isn't mutual understanding a part of understanding?

@Proserpina Yeh he will be able to post soon don't worry. It's just 3 days.

@Hulia I hid them. I am not sure if anything Zeroguy says can be taken seriously, but I can check up on him, we are friends and he is my favorite user.

There are different types of knowing and sometimes emotions are needed to understand things.

I think we have to work on this acceptance of women and people who are not straight and cisgender here. There are so many occasions where I think something somebody wrote must be very uninviting or even offensive. And we have diversity here in terms of this, which we can facilitate for learning, but we do not do it as much as we could. Cultural diversity too, it is very interesting to discuss societal issues with people from cultural backgrounds, even when the bias is more somewhere, it can also be different and people can learn from biases. I think we should stop just treating development as arriving at one truth, which Leo does not even claim to have. @Leo Gura It seems to me that you do not talk about development in stage green enough and people do not see your embodiment of it. Like in the JP video I thought it was amazing when you gave a more stage green understanding of politics and why it is important. But I still get the sense that people often see you as the ultimate authority figure, which they like to parrot, and sensitive people who can really contribute to this community get shut down, because they do not advocate for what you talk about most of the time. Although you seem to understand that conceptually from what I heard from you in your videos and some comments on this forum as well. I just think the communication is lacking, if you know what I mean, people misinterpreting things.

@DIDego People on this forum try to skip green belt and go straight to turquoise belt. Voila, nihilist incel.

That sounds much more descriptive of your actual view, good job on the honesty. You can create meaning from what you value yourself. Maybe you value human life and potential, so you want to align your actions with that mindset.

@Harlen Kelly I don't know them bro. I only read this one comment, it's too little to decide, do you see it?

@Hulia He was making fun of people committing suicide and jumping off a bridge. This is not jokeable about here, we need to make this message clear. Even if you mean it as a joke, a human might interpret it as something else, it might be insensitive towards the family, who are humans, or trigger someone who is suicidal.

@Gregp If everything is meaningless, then this statement also. You are not nihilist at all, you are just confused and feeling down perhaps. You are judging things by how big in size they are from what you are saying. But your feeling does not have a size, yet it is there and you are stuck in it. You can do stuff to change this feeling that makes you say such words.

@Harlen Kelly Not enough context was given, plus the guy was doing other things too. I just found this judgement really unfair and it is not unique to this thread per se.

@Max Green Thank you for opening up this topic, it is very important that we discuss this on a forum where masculinity is so dominant. I think you are totally fine, if that's what you like, don't feel pressured to do something some people on a forum or a guy on a screen tell you to do. Take it as an opportunity to develop deeper, more intimate communication and sense of connection with your partner. But if you really care about pleasing her and are just worried about appearing as violent or cruel, perhaps because of some experience with hyper-masculine, aggressive men, try changing your view of this. Maybe you can use your submisiveness and niceness to learn how to listen to and serve her better and kind of do something just for her. Not because you are desperate, but out of care. Do you know what I mean? if you are just disgusted by the idea of being aggressive, understand that she might want you to fuck her fast and hard. It is not necessarily "violent"

Perhaps having the ideas that make your identity survive justified and supported by others? Curiosity, desire to learn from other people and their views of the world? Creating something greater together that nobody can do alone?

I think the episode is pretty good. This concept of discarding values that are low-consciousness and cause suffering and violence, being able to see them as meaningless and then creating your own imagined sense of values that help you and others lead better lives is profound. Psychedelics can help with this, if you do not fall into the trap of becoming depressed but instead continue to live a self-actualized life, reclaim your higher responsibilities as a human etc.

Zeroguy is restricted from posting, I hope he changes his view.

@Harlen Kelly That is a very simplistic view you have. It is unfair how this male dominated forum judges girls so quickly for things that might be fine. Especially when context is not provided.

@Harlen Kelly You are making so many simplifications. It might not be simple. Masturbating to porn is not even the only thing his girlfriend get mad about and OP did not mention what else he does, this can be heavily biased. If I fail to be comfortable in bed and I do not communicate with my girlfriend what I like, what turns me on and so on, I just lie there, and then after we are done, I go to the other room to watch porn, I would consider it normal that she is mad. If I avoided being creative and focused in bed and instead escaped to porn and just used her as escapism, same. If we are having a long distance relationship in covid times and it is hard to spend as much time together as we would like, therefore I watch porn to satisfy my sexual needs and she gets mad, I would question that, communicate, then maybe I would start feeling awkward about it. If I was spending a hell lot of time with this social media friends and avoided my girlfriend, same. There are nuances to this.

@Harlen Kelly My problem is, it is not obvious from what the OP wrote whether it actually is a toxic behavior. And so many people here started assuming it is without even questioning it.

I suspect many of you guys do not actually have experiences with relationships that are intimate and include healthy, honest communication.

I mean you can literally kill people by doing game, the fear is not as irrational as you think, some people live with their grandparents for example.