Kiyo1104

Thank you so much! Your points make a lot of sense; in fact, I think hold the same position, but couldn't present it this well. And you are right, "can the self stay forever?" is the best formulation of my initial question.

Hi, Leo, I’m trying to understand a subtle metaphysical point you’ve talked about. You’ve said that no illusion can be permanent, because any imagined state eventually collapses into a deeper truth. In your own words: "Truth cannot be hidden, denied, or avoided indefinitely. Falsehood and illusion are always a finite game. Falsehood and illusion are unsustainable because they are self-contradictory. God must be itself. God cannot not be God. Because Truth is itself. If Truth was not itself, it would be falsehood, which is absolutely impossible." At the same time, God can imagine any state or dream, even one that seems endless. For example, God could imagine an eternal-feeling dream of pure stillness or bliss. Does this mean God can dream an experience that APPEARS to last forever in linear time (the same way a human can dream something that feels endless) even though it still ultimately collapses? In other words, how does the impossibility of true permanence reconcile with the possibility of imagining a dream-state that feels eternal? I’d really appreciate any clarity on this — I’m genuinely curious about how these pieces fit together.

Ohh I see. Thank you for your input and time. I appreciate personal perspectives 😁

I see. Thank you for the elaboration. I understand that 'real' and 'unreal' are dualities that collapse from God's "perspective". I have to be more careful with terms like 'dream' and 'illusion'. Maybe I should have phrased my initial question as: "Is it possible from Ego's point of view to have an unchanging eternal state (even something absurd like alternating between green and blue indefinitely), or is that bound to change since all finite things are impermanent?"

Well, I've been following Leo since 2016. Up till now, whenever I wanted to find the answer to some question that intrigued me, I managed to find it either by watching Leo's videos or reading already existing threads on the forum. So I suppose that I created the account earlier to ask something, but never did since I found the answer. However, this is THE one question that I couldn't find the direct answer to. So I tried making an account to ask it, failed in registration, tried again with this email address, and it said that this email is already in use, so I figured that the account already exist. And here I am 😅

Well, I'm sorry if I caused suspicion. I tried creating a profile recently, but failed somewhere in the authentication process. Today I discovered that I had already registered via this account who knows how long ago and decided to ask the question that has had me puzzled for quite some time. I don't intend to cause problems, but I realize you cannot know that from your perspective. Ban me if you see anything unusual. I'm just curious about Leo's answer to this question.

I read your explanation in the comment below, but still don't think that 'just feeling' is the right approach in this case. I'm aware of the many traps of thinking too much in this work, but I have also seen great explanations that were able to cut through so much bullshit and help me save a lot of time from self deception. That sure does sound unnerving... Thank you. That explanation seems the most concrete to me. Thank you. I had an insight of time being a part of the illusion, and that's why I lean into the whole 'APPEARS to last forever UNTIL you wake up' approach as well.