Jack River

Nice dude. Fosho!!

Control and concentration are the same. Control is divided attention. Attention or awareness is not divided and not controlled one bit. That’s the awsome part about this. The self=controller, divided attention, concentration, psychologically time. All of that comes from thought. Thought is hella gnarly isn’t it.

Someone brought up enlightenment. That’s why I brought up psychological time. Applying concentration which is thought movement to reach psychological satisfaction/security actually keeps that dissatisfaction/insecurity alive dude. You don’t understand that? Or you do?

@Bluff a beer for a bro?

@Bluff lol using concentration/thought to end psychological problems is unhealthy my man. It’s the cause of psychological conflict. Concentration/thought has its place fosho. There is no NOW if it’s applied psychologically. This understood when we understand thought/“the me”

It’s not bad dude. It’s what it is. I just said it was concentration.

@DrewNows fasho .. ??

We can understand ourselves or we can keep trying to escape ourselves. Up to you’s dudes.

@Bluff we can try and get our precious reward of enlightenment or we can understand why we seek such a “thing”. We can spend our whole lives conforming to patterns of thought or we can end all patterns of thought.

@Bluff newbies have as much if not more of a chance to end the illusion of psychological time. If I would have just started with understanding myself first I wouldn’t have got caught in years of self deception/illusion.

Go into the nature of concentration man. You will see. It’s a tool. But not healthy for the psychological

@SageModeAustin lookig to the future to solve psychological problems is the self looking to thought, which is the past to solve that problem. But the problem comes from thought. Psychological time is the self looking to thought to solve problems that thought has created. I can send you a video that may help. Krishnamurti and tolle both talk about psychological time.

Any movement of fear looking to thought to end that fear is psychological time. Any movement of me relying on knowledge/memory to solve psychological problems is psychological time. I am this, but if I use these techniques I will be that.

We never become enlightened dudes. Freedom means we are always changing and we don’t resist that change. Becoming totally ends. It’s much sweeter that inventing an image of enlightenment and chasing that image. Way sweeter

That’s why it’s important to understand thought/self first thing. We shouldn’t advise people to try and get somewhere. But first explain the importance of how wanting to get somewhere limits freedom/liberation

That’s it.

One example of Psychologically time is the “me” escaping the fact of suffering to the idea that I will become some “thing” in time. I am not suffering/not enlightened, but I will become enlightened soon by practicing and such. Awareness doesn’t move within the field of psychological time.

Concentration is good for getting shit done outwardly. But inwardly it causes the issues.

Awareness isn’t always there. Thought does identify with awareness as an idea though. One of thoughts tricks. I did that. True Awareness doesn’t get caught in these tricks.

I wasted 8-9 years getting caught in my own contradiction/concentration. Then 2 months ago a friend introduced me to simply understanding fear/psychological time and how it arises in all its subtlety's throughout the day. Then once I saw that fear was always influencing action that made me interested in the nature of thought. That’s a wise place to start dude.

I don’t think so. Are you aware of all the subtle ways concentration is in action? It’s wise to understand the nature of concentration and its relationship to thought/self/psychological time. Then when you see the totality of all that you don’t move within that field of concentration any longer. Awareness sees all that and doesn’t move in that pattern anymore. That’s the intelligence of truth observing.

Anything involving a motive is divided.

anything that is directed in a certain direction means it is a divided attention. This is Thoughts/selfs nature. So if that is the way mindfulness is suppose to be done it’s a concentration game.

Right. Well if we are bringing attention to breath is that concentrated focused attention? Which is divided.

@FredFred give me a explanation of how mindfulness meditation works and I’ll tell you if it’s concentration based or attention/awareness based. The definition that caught your interest I mean.