Jack River

It’s not bad dude. It’s what it is. I just said it was concentration.

@DrewNows fasho .. ??

We can understand ourselves or we can keep trying to escape ourselves. Up to you’s dudes.

@Bluff we can try and get our precious reward of enlightenment or we can understand why we seek such a “thing”. We can spend our whole lives conforming to patterns of thought or we can end all patterns of thought.

@Bluff newbies have as much if not more of a chance to end the illusion of psychological time. If I would have just started with understanding myself first I wouldn’t have got caught in years of self deception/illusion.

Go into the nature of concentration man. You will see. It’s a tool. But not healthy for the psychological

@SageModeAustin lookig to the future to solve psychological problems is the self looking to thought, which is the past to solve that problem. But the problem comes from thought. Psychological time is the self looking to thought to solve problems that thought has created. I can send you a video that may help. Krishnamurti and tolle both talk about psychological time.

Any movement of fear looking to thought to end that fear is psychological time. Any movement of me relying on knowledge/memory to solve psychological problems is psychological time. I am this, but if I use these techniques I will be that.

We never become enlightened dudes. Freedom means we are always changing and we don’t resist that change. Becoming totally ends. It’s much sweeter that inventing an image of enlightenment and chasing that image. Way sweeter

That’s why it’s important to understand thought/self first thing. We shouldn’t advise people to try and get somewhere. But first explain the importance of how wanting to get somewhere limits freedom/liberation

That’s it.

One example of Psychologically time is the “me” escaping the fact of suffering to the idea that I will become some “thing” in time. I am not suffering/not enlightened, but I will become enlightened soon by practicing and such. Awareness doesn’t move within the field of psychological time.

Concentration is good for getting shit done outwardly. But inwardly it causes the issues.

Awareness isn’t always there. Thought does identify with awareness as an idea though. One of thoughts tricks. I did that. True Awareness doesn’t get caught in these tricks.

I wasted 8-9 years getting caught in my own contradiction/concentration. Then 2 months ago a friend introduced me to simply understanding fear/psychological time and how it arises in all its subtlety's throughout the day. Then once I saw that fear was always influencing action that made me interested in the nature of thought. That’s a wise place to start dude.

I don’t think so. Are you aware of all the subtle ways concentration is in action? It’s wise to understand the nature of concentration and its relationship to thought/self/psychological time. Then when you see the totality of all that you don’t move within that field of concentration any longer. Awareness sees all that and doesn’t move in that pattern anymore. That’s the intelligence of truth observing.

Anything involving a motive is divided.

anything that is directed in a certain direction means it is a divided attention. This is Thoughts/selfs nature. So if that is the way mindfulness is suppose to be done it’s a concentration game.

Right. Well if we are bringing attention to breath is that concentrated focused attention? Which is divided.

@FredFred give me a explanation of how mindfulness meditation works and I’ll tell you if it’s concentration based or attention/awareness based. The definition that caught your interest I mean.

awareness is difficult because self/thought is limited to motive. Any kind of motive or intent kills the freedom of awareness dude. That's why is needed to understand fear/desire/psychological time.

When i direct energy in a certain direction that is the limited energy of desire/thought which=concentration. That leads to an experience because the experiencer is being activated with its motive and content. Awareness doesn't move in a certain direction. Has no motive, and doesn't act by the influence of thought. Awareness doesn't choose dude.

My good dude @Faceless wrote on this in his no way as way thread. Headllessness=nothingness. Here is part of what he wrote that talks about it.. Faceless said With this total passive awareness there is no movement of registration, which then allows for an absence of recollection, in which there is no content to project itself as a veil over the next moment of now. With this comes a suspension of identification, as in No ”i”, time. Absolutely no static content of the self and it’s accumulation, being imprinted and carried over onto each dynamic now. With this passive awareness empty of (volition-desire), is an immeasurable beauty and mysteriousness that cannot ever fully expresses in words,(measure). There is an obviousness to this indeed. In order to see WHAT IS, “the i” with all its accumulation, being limited and narrow must end.

@SoonHei i live very simply dude. Every day is appreciated.

@Consilience thank you dude. That question is common but worth asking fosho.