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Yeah I bet. That would be pretty awesome?

The nothingness of Truth is aware of that of reality. Fosho

I do that everyday dude. Sometimes at night. ?

Floating out in sea in in total silence. This unknown is always so empty. Crazy crazy

Yep. It’s not a knowing. Thought comes in and says how excellent that actuality was the remembering, the knowing, the becoming is not. The silence of nothingness/unknown

That’s right dude. It’s Most excellent.

I feel ya doggy. The unknowable recognizes itself as such

Could also be seen as an ending of remembrance huh.. Pretty cool. We eventually see that the becoming is the projection of the rememberance. Totally crazy how it all falls into place with that mega insight heh?

Only “enlightenment” is projected, pursued, and captured. But that in its structure is fixed. Anything fixed is still influenced by reaction/conditioned mind. Reaction and conditioning projects and clings to it’s end goal. This is resistance. Resistance to what is, as in change. To end this resistance by clinging to the patterns of thought, as in desire/thought content, is to flow with change. Attachment to thought movement means resistance to change dude. This seriously blew my limited mind appart brah

For me I saw that motive=fear. And motive goes way deeper than the usual conscious awareness that is distorted by self. self does t recognize the subtle motive/fear. We think we are aware of all fear movement, but it slips through undetected.

But the motive is deep within the reaction of thought. Motive/desire/thought are really one. If there is a psychological seeking we will inherently add labels and projects the contents of thought/self. When I saw the truth of this it blew mind away dude. When we see it as fact/truth we don’t move in the pattern of thought projection anymore. The unknown doesn’t come about in kind cultivation. Which includes motive/desire in pursuit.

To empty the mind of the past, all the things of thought, is something else dude.

@abrakamowse hope dude...does hope prevent freedom? Does hope kill freedom? Can you totally disregard all you ever heard about “enlightenment”?, and start from scratch. Can you see that the end/gaol corrupts from the start? Does these means that have been passed down through tradition/thought in there nature block freedom?

@seeking_brilliance it’s all good. I’m not into arguing either. I feel ya. I am with you. We are on the same side. We are the same after all. Thank you too?

Is being motivated by the goal a part of that energy wastage? The goal to become a thing of thought.

@abrakamowse what is the nature of what blocks seeing? Things like fear/desire/choice/assumption/clinging to bias/resistance and such. This seeing=unlimited energy/love. All things that prevent the seeing are what limits energy/love.

Comprehend all the contents of the conditioned consciousness. With that total comprehension there is its ending. The the unknown is allcthat is left dude.

Total comprehension of what prevents that seeing brah. ? but not verbal/intellectual comprehension.

Understanding the nature of the self does reveal that dude. self understanding Understanding what isn’t love dudes. Pretty simple really. I don’t know what the confusion here is.

It’s not based on desire/fear. Actually facing the fact of this is only possible when fear/desire doesn’t distort the fact.

That’s the point dude. Thought/self/divided action is its own limit. The limit is the structure itself.

Goodness- order/wholeness or healthy Evil- wickedness; anything that causes injury, morally or physically. Unhealthy. Basically things that become the reality when being fragmented. Or when thought enters into relationship. When the self lolksnto thought for security. if this evil, as in fragmentation is the reality then how can there be goodness or wholeness or order. Right?

Can goodness and evil be in the same room together? Does goodness have an opposite? And isnt it a belief that love and fear can be in the same room? I mean common sounds like fear rationalizing the reason it cannot love to me. Sounds like illusion to me. Facing what is is scary to the self. From the standpoint of love/freedom there is total unconditional compassion. But if we ourselves live in fear and escape that fear continually that prevents this Love/compassion from coming into being. self=fear=anger=antagonism=violence. It’s not “my” description, it is what it is. It’s funny how people react to this. It’s always the same reaction. Wonder why That’s right. compassion and integrity important dude. After all selfs are the conditioned consciousness. All selfs are the same. Compassion comes from understanding and ending this cause of suffering, as in conflict..But being trapped in this psychological seeking/fear resisting itself, we are never coming from that place of love where energy is big enough to drop all self centered movement of the “me”. This isn’t my opinion..no self can love. When the self is comprehend in its entirety we see that the self in its very structure denies the wholeness of love. From the divided self there can never be love dudes and dudets.

As long as there is self that = isolation. Isolation = fear ..love is not isolated, yet it is alone. It’s totally excellent ? Alone as in: wholly oneself," from all "all, wholly" or "one"

It doesn’t get more straight forward than that