Jack River

We may soon see that desire itself implies fulfillment to be attained in time(future). Desire is a movement of self from the past/present and fixes its own state of being on the conditions of the future. Can fulfilment be found in time, or is it always unconditional/timeless? Desire=time dudes.

Does Freedom seek enlightenment? That’s the same thing as the self seeking security in itself(thought).

Well we don’t have to be selfish, we are. That is the path. The path is the self. Now, can we see that to accept selfishness and react to (condemn) selfishness are both the same movement of resistance?

Best thing I ever did was step out of the path/self and end the “continuity of progression”. There was an insight that saw the totality that path, self, continuity, progression, was all a movement of time(past/present/future) or divided action/self.

Can we let go of the experience because even after we have some experience your will record that experience and project a fragment of it as a “new” experience. But that fragment will never be what was. Then you will be chasing ashes and back again in the time/self loop. Is the search for an experience necessary? Or is the end of searching for an experience and recording an experience something to look into? The extent we resist determines the amount of time it takes. We’re always looking for a way out, to be guided. This is resistance. Why not stay with what is dude?

One veil/lens-image(knowledge/experience, memory) in opposition to another. Fosho dude. The agenda is destined to bring about conflict/divison.

I feel ya?. It was also my first time seeing this fella. Actually rare to see such an interview go as smoothly as it did.

I think we were as well dude...not a bad interview heh? ??

Maybe it would be wise to neither move away from or towards. Maybe no movement in either direction is a option deprived of confusion. What does death mean? If there is movement in either direction is that death, or a resistance to die?

This dude Tolle spoke with seems to listent with a lack of memory/desire. Seems to me a fairly intelligent dude Any assumptions/speculations we make of his intention/demeanor may be a projection of our own insecurities. A kind of measuring in relation/comparison to our own self image. Same ol topic Tolle spoke of in the interview.

Fosho. No image(reactionary movement of psychological becoming/divided action).

Ending every moment is living every moment. Die to the content of “I”, die to the movement of time. ??

An image in relationship means no relationship.

To observe without the image..undivided action, sign of wholensss/intelligence. ?

Fosho it happens. One veil-lens conflicting with another. We can use this interaction of conflict to learn from though. Namean @Anna1

@Strikr ?

I don’t know any trump?

Fosho. That would be a reaction. The same as looking to thought to find freedom. As said before, to much mind and no heart. Action born of Wholeness ?. Right dude?

There is an insight so whole that seems to bring about a total ending of resistance/attachment/identification with the whole of experience/knowledge(memory-thought). In this totally gnarly insight there is a holistic seeing (intelligent action) that can observe the generative order of self/thought movement/process in its totality. In this seeing it is observed that the path and the self, the means in which that self attempts to free itself from itself, is also movement of the self. Also it can be seen that the self will try and accumulate theory, concepts, explanations (thought) to bring about freedom/liberation. In this insight it becomes clear that that is also the same action that sustains self/divison/conflict/suffering, and can actually prevent and prolong freedom/liberation. The insight reveals that accumulating knowledge/experience(thought) to bring about wholeness actually sustains the self/divison. This insight brings about a total surrender/death of resistance/attachment/identification. Ending of looking to the past/future for help. This insight sees that truth and therefore enlightened action is never fixed. Or that the accumulation and projection of what is fixed is what enslaves being and prevents enlightened action in the first place. The seeing/insight is total freedom from the reactionary movement of self ‘looking for a way out’ by holding to a path. Freedom that as in the case of Tolle, is not codependent on any condition, especially the conditions of thought.

And preventing the unforeseen beheading.

Well can “I”, “you” nice questions nahm

An unawareness to the thought/emotion connection/relationship is really what limits thinking/being and prevents the chance of non-being. Thought will react to emotion without being aware of that and vice versa. It seems really difficult to be aware of this. One reason is thought avoids insecurity that arises because of that relationship and because it’s simply difficult to attend to the process. You can test this by bringing up the memory of a word that made you angry. That word and the meaning/concept interpreted will bring about the emotion/feeling. Ofcourse it has to be a genuine discomfort in that memory/word.

I don’t see any part as upper or lower as that seems like measure established by thought itself. Fosho. The awareness talked about here is simply seeing the whole process/movement itself.

Excellent. Nice to communicate successfully for once ??

Great way to put it dude.