Jack River

Let’s stick with attention. Is that ok? No attention and we suffer. If there is attention eto what causes suffering like fragmentation and what it initials then we don’t get caught in that suffering. If we still suffer we don’t see what suffering intails yet. We are not being attentive to what causes suffering yet.

Who is upset about it? Lol. Fun thing is to watch dude. It’s freakin fun to watch the more you get upset the more you resist what is happening. This is feeding fear. Isn’t it amazing dude?

We get caught in chasing the abstraction of awareness. Same as psychological seeking.

I feel what your saying dude lol awareness is attention to lack of attention. It’s that simple. And we will see that we start to try and control that outcome to pay attention. That is not attention or awareness. That is psychological time. Which is what makes for suffering and feeding more fear

Conscious awareness leads to suffering. Attention to conscious awareness means suffering doesn’t feed itself.

Suffering means we don’t see the whole of what causes suffering. Means there is no attention or awarness. Suffering only happens with lack of attention or awareness.

We can be aware of this conflict right. But is that awareness free to not feed fear by being caught in fear? If we can’t see all the ways fear are happening then we feed them as a habit.

@SOUL nice man

Fosho dude that’s why we are talking about feeding fear

It’s freaking awsome isn’t it, to see that this is happening with us even being aware of it. It blew my mind brah.

Its actually pretty constant huh?

No theory is needed to watch yourself. What is going on in your daily experience is a not theory. It can be seen directly. Fesr feeding fear is not a theory. Fear seeking security in abstraction not a theory. It happens lol

More important attention to lack of attention made it clear to me. It was so simple but powerful

To seek freedom is the same as seeking enlightenment. Seeking security in abstraction. Illusion

No. It’s seeing the whole of what seeking leads to that ends seeking.

Fear seeks security always from itself to an abstraction. To avoid what is dudes

No that not at all what I mean dude. First off I don’t seek enlightenment. Second I don’t care about states. Freedom without desire of states. No psychological becoming. Not to feed that old tricky fear-self.

What do you need help with? What are you confused about that I’m saying?

I have watched the whole guru gang in the past. Don’t really need to though. I have gone much further in the last month than the last 8 years of watching gurus just by watching myself and learning about thought in discussions with my brothers.

Mother f-ing beautiful if you ask me

Thanks dude?. Thats the cool thing clinging ends. Clinging and identification same thing brah.

Then there is no freedom. No holistic insight into what is not freedom then slavery continues. With slavery means self calls the shots. Means self feeds itself and hides it form itself.

Freedom as in seeing holistically doesn’t see in parts like that. Fear and identification are the same movement of psychological becoming. There is only freedom when assumed seperate parts are seen as they actually are as a one single movement. Thought-ego sees things as separate. If we see the movement of self as seperate parts we can’t be attentive to its complex movement

Contemplation is a waste without attention to self. Not contemplating content of self. But watching holistic movement of self.

Same thing.