Jack River

@SerotoninluvRight dude. Sub-Culture being conditioned to that form of bias. Sub culture determined by that a specific conditioned movement of thought. A persons thinking is relative to “the thinkers” conditioning.

Fear in movement

Can freedom actually happen when every step we take is in the direction of non-freedom?

@Toby @Saumaya when we say relative or perspective this means view point from ones personal experience/thought right?

What’s meant by this?

Yellow is aware of bias. Seems simple dudes

So the above is teir one being caught in identification with thought. Fear in movement. No ability to suspend pre judgement and can’t see the importants

@SaumayaDoes tier one imply a person who identifies with thought and tier two not? What we talked about before.

Yep. Every step is a movement of time. Nice dude

Can’t be any psychological seeking basically on either side to come together.

Right. But sometimes there are signals of this identification or resistance. Has to be both willing to listen without holding to there bias/thought. Right. Sometimes it can happen if one side is willing and the other let there gaurd down by observing what seems to be genuine intention of the other. But unless that is so communication is a two way street. Right dude?

Seems pretty dang reasonable dude. It’s pretty easy to tell when there is this identification. I usually kinda just stop trying if I see it’s going nowhere.

Fosho dude. Without humility thought is incoherent.

I am following dude. Fusion or union on a subject or conversation

Like to communicate. If there is identification with certain information then the communication is corrupted. Fear forming a barrier in communicating. That what are saying @Saumaya?

To determine correct or incorrect information? Because anyone can have incorrect info right dude?

So to engage with criticism is clinging to identification with thought right. Identification meaning attachment to what is known. Right?

Oh. Well I feel for you dude. Wish you the best man

Attachment to Things means identification and identification means clinging to the old. In his case conditioned beliefs.

This hopelessness, suffering, dependence on others with there information/knowledge. All this means fear wants to escape itself. It’s looking for answers, but doesn’t want to stay with the prob. Just like in that movie fight club. When Tyler poors the acid on nortons hand. Norton wanted to resist by blocking out the pain wth his imagination. Resisting is conditioned response/ reaction. And that reaction feeds the loop fear that prevents freedom. Just a shity example

Are you suffering?

Illusion arises with fear running from itself. Freedom means not being caught in the continuation of action/reaction or fragmentation.

Illusion arises with fear running from itself.

Only when it is pursued brah. Actual Freedom is the absense of the pursuit of freedom. The absence of escape from what is. Illusion means we are seeking an abstraction and not facing the fact. Slave to fear and always trying to escape fear. The more the escape the more we feed fear.

I feel ya my man. I with you there?