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@Bill W Yup, forgiveness being acceptance and the byproduct of self love (allowing every emotion, often starting with hate, and not "needing" to feel better) watch the last 15 minutes of this video. It will bring up the term forgiveness (starting at 55th min), how and why it is often misunderstood. If you like the last 15 min i'd recommend listening to the whole thing

Maybe...but it don’t matter Yes ideas are fantastic. What happens when you drop all ideas, all knowledge/concepts, and beliefs? Do you and your life actually exist? Is there even an existence? There’s the I am’ness/being but what does it feel like when there’s no more ‘knowing’ about anything...

That’s kinda silly almost like saying if Truth was to physically die, then would you be willing to end your life? Which reminds me of the movie: the discovery

Quite interesting ?❤️

No mate! It simply just does not matter as some may indeed believe what is being spread are simply Leo’s ideas, so they will have to do their own work as no amount of convincing will help them on the path to understand what he’s describing. I’m not trying to support truth addict and his playful punches he’s throwing, im just saying Anyways seeing the metaphysics is a good place for people to begin the search for understanding, cheers ?

Let goooo let it outtt pain can be your friend if only you show it the love you show happiness, yes the sensations are all disguises of love ?

But from his view it seems you don’t make sense the ideas are irrelevant to Truth right?

Sometimes. All the body/mind to ride the lows just as you would ride the highs. Seems this may be the end result ? Yeah but...what about the space? it is the space that makes all this possible ?❤️

@Inliytened1 I believe this is his question you didn’t address. Try not to jump to too many conclusions with Truth Addict, he’s a cool cat ? he doesn’t always reveal is “fully evolved state” ? anyways, cool looking video, might check it out ???

I wasn't supporting him, i am playing into the illusion. It doesn't matter what i do, stop acting like it does

but you can find emotion without Truth This shit is tricky as fuck man, who woulda guessed you'd have to throw trust out the window and face everything and everyone as yourself, completely butt naked

@Truth Addict Wise but youre still just a kid! (yes im joking ) Let me ask you this, who is the "i" that does not know? we all play our characters no matter what we claim to know, This doesn't mean we have to live as Illusion, rather, we know we Live with illusion, experiencing freedom no matter what arises

I left anger out but yes you can also let the anger flow through you first, and give yourself space focusing on the breath as much as you need I feel your pain friend ?????

@ivankiss I heard once that forgiveness is a byproduct, and cannot be forced (shouldn’t even try) you will have to go deep within, understand why you feel the way you do and then love this entirely. Suffer, weep, love, and accept. Allow yourself to become whole again. It may take several occasions but doing things like shamanic breath work can speed up the healing process

@Inliytened1 he’s okay though. People can battle themselves all they want and believe whatever they wish, for now ?

Damn. Your words how can I even respond to this? ? edit: (I think you know the answer to this entire poem of anguish) Feel into it all continuously until it relinquishes itself ?

You said it yourself, your feelings are irrelevant for Truth. If you refuse to allow, you can never be hypnotized. Can you allow yourself to start from “not knowing”? It’s the only way to dive into the vortex of Love (seeing all that is YOU)

@Truth Addictwhat are you trying to do here Truth? Continue Being an addict? I mean sure I’m glad you’ve stopped pursuing it but now all you gotta do is allow it into your life and you can cease to be

Yes but many behaviors we aren’t conscious of doing or why we do them. Subconscious is simply descriptive and not actual I’ll check it out when I get a chance though

As in subconscious thoughts are actually just thoughts we always operate from and accept as our truths right? Like overlook etc its simply a way to address these thoughts we are hardly ever conscious of

Ahh yes of course! I’m eating this up boi!!!

Avoiding suffering you mean? Like by changing your focus? Is there situations where you can look from two perspectives and one creates suffering while the other doesn’t (would choosing the no suffering indefinitely create a shadow?

Focus/attention in of itself is absolutely fascinating to me I’m now contemplating this in regards to the mental illness bipolar, with manic and depressive states. The amplification of sensation and meaning, firing of the neurons etc. then of course there’s an activity such as weight lifting where mind body connection is highly supportive to muscle recruitment and building. More experience often leads to better attunment of energy, proper breathing and functionality (all inward focus instead of outwardly fixated on the weight themselves) and the highest states of focus/attention seem to be an equal balance between the inner and outer in which they come together, possibly no more directed focus but complete attention on experience Yes this would be cool to see. Possibly using focus to avoid suffering can be both good and bad at various times. Uncontrollable situations might require a shift in attention to end suffering while other times it’s best to address what arises to move through it and learn to adapt

@Anderz interesting thank you. I’ve been shifting to fasting and want to try dry fasting now. How about still growing/developing adolescence? Imagine a child raised in breatharianism

@Anderz@Zigzag IdiotWow loads of interesting stuff here! Quick question after watching the video on the breatharianism dude. Do you think spiral dynamics stages in personal development affect one’s ability to adapt and support the sort of lifestyle without starving/dying?