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@Shadowraix @Truth Addict It’s all about putting thought in its place we can never know as the ego, simply depends how we perceive it

Let the root come to you...when you’re triggered by trauma, welcome it with open arms, sit and listen, learn and love dont get in the way of yourself, just observe and let the integrating happen

@Aakash good you realize it’s not enough to understand intellectually what our problems are...next is to dive into the emotional body, heal the inner child and even change the experience from the past this is what I’ve been learning about recently

I would love to hear what you find out about this if you decide to research it. I played the saxophone as a kid, but i still mostly breath through my nose and only ever do stomach breathing unless i feel tense or anxious from something. I think i offered unhelpful advice with the challenge i suggested. You can simply bring observation (nonjudgmental or without analyzing) to your game play/interactions and see if you have any realizations or insight. Later reflect on what you noticed, maybe you can figure out some of your shadows Why do you think you have such a strong need to please others? See if you can notice this quality and your role in your dynamics with friends while gaming.

Your videos keep getting better! Not able to watch the latest yet but the suffering was awesome! Very deep and abstract

@Key Elements yes we have to be able to love ourselves completely to give unconditionally, this is why understanding and being honest about himself in these dynamics is so important. @billiesimon take responsibility friend, question your intentions and perspective, no other way to grow out of your deceptive selfish ways.

Yes and this would be the same for the majority of men not in scarcity or entitlement I question the accuracy and meaning of this claim Men who have a lack of respect for woman they deem unattractive will usually be of an entitled nature/attitude/body language but will act super kiss ass and friendly (quite possibly in a needy way) to the woman they find attractive But men without self respect/confidence/attractiveness will mirror these aspects with every woman they meet, and the highly attractive girls will scare the bageebers out of them. On the other side, a woman who sees herself unattractive reflects this sort of body language and may often get reciprocated attention due to the closedoffness being perceived it’s always having to do with oneself if and when things get to the personal level

Yes you can’t see it yet but basically you put her needs above yours in the way you show up in the relationship/friendship and enforce your own self beliefs based off the reciprocation you expect to receive in your interactions

It is you who doesn't care about your god damn bloody self. Don't project your self beliefs onto her. But if my suggestion doesn't work for your ego then do what you gotta do. Either way you gotta do the work and i wish you the best with that

@billiesimonyoure so attached man...youre best off with this advice

sounds like someone hasn't heard of the moonwalk he's rejection leads to the end of his fake friendship with her and in turn leads to her unnecessary suffering

Dude she was so special to him he changed who he was for her. He didn't act like himself because he could only think about how he might lose her if he expressed himself honestly. If he continues to act in-authentically, he's disrespect for himself will turn into a disrespect for her. He must do the work on his beliefs/perspective

yes it is simply a projection of one's own self beliefs onto her

yeah man. I mean nothing personal in calling you out. I have ended a few friendships just like how he describes and later realized how immature and pointless it was to behave this way. Even seemed to promote my own thought patterns of fearfulness of girls judging my behavior

@billiesimonThis is the real you hiding under your conditioning/fear but you've yet to understand how youre getting in your own way. This has to be figured out in the process of interacting with women. if you want to be honest with your friend simply tell her you cant see her for a while because you don't respect yourself and you need to work on that. You don't gotta spill your guts out and make your friendship awkward or end it. Simply commit to giving yourself the love to grow and learn through dating/interaction

@flowboy dude you’re telling him to end his fake friendship simply by getting rejected by her because it’s going to make him feel better? ? He’s simply not being honest with himself. Since when has an end to any long relationship ever caused a guy to go work on himself and change his ways immediately? Never.

Dude he hasn’t done anything but admit to himself he’s fucking up. That’s step one. Next is to do the work and go get rejected “properly”

Could it be she simply enjoys your company and caring attitude? Believe me I know players who have many friends who are girls and they can both be friendly and flirty with any of them. Nothing has to be serious, you just have to learn not to be insecure and needy or afraid of rejection take it or leave it dude but I’m just saying. I was exactly like you and had cycle after cycle of “friendzoned” experiences and horrible suffering because I took it too seriously and didn’t work on myself

It’s not a mess, only you are the mess. Take care of your shit and leave her out of it. Maybe in a month or 2 you can hang out with her and tell her all about how you’ve been working on yourself and you no longer have any attachment to her she will see you completely different and you won’t be afraid to hit on her and tease her playfully

He’s not ending the friendship. He will simply be unavailable for a month or so to work on his dating game and mindset The only bullet is his way of thinking and inauthenticity. Why hurt someone else when they aren’t the problem? He has already admitted to not being willing to be her friend if she rejects him. He needs to go out and be authentic, daring, masculine and learn. Suffering does not improve these areas in of itself

@flowboy completely disagree about him needing to get rejected. That’s not the way to get rejected. Not only will he be hurting himself but her as well (I know from experience) Its apparent you can’t hold a genuine friendship at this time @billiesimon so it is important you simply begin the work on your mindset and do not hang out with your “friend” until you have started dating other girls. (You can simply come up with excuses if she reaches out) Your black and white thinking (girls can be a friend or a date) is completely unnecessary and categorizing them in your head this way will serve no one well

OMG i am guilty of this as well

@Shin depends when you workout, if at night, go to bed but if at morning, GET BACK TO WORK! In my experience, working out gives me more energy throughout the day

I didn’t have any expectations, thanks for sharing! Interesting allegory. Glad to have Gurdjieff as a source

Body building is a mastery skill that can lead to higher states of awareness but bringing high awareness into it could definitely result in speedy progression