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@ivankiss Several users are pointing to you that there is more to be seen. As they have made it explicit, they are not contradicting your perspective, only trying to expand it. Why are you going on, trying to dispute them and tell them that they are wrong? What for? To someone who has experienced the other side - the "illusory nature of time", it is clear that you have attached to the "real" side of the paradox, claiming that it is not "illusory". In your original post, you point to an important dynamic of shielding behind "it's illusory" as a way to not further one's exploration. Yet you are doing the same with "No, I am talking about THE REAL thing". That paradox/ duality is not resolved by going to either side aka "It's real, I'm telling you" or "It's illusory". You have the opportunity to transcend the need to label things with real and illusory, to substitute it with exploration. Because if at any moment you believe "That's it", you are in a paradigm lock. It's perfectly fine, yet if you "have always felt like there's much more depth to everything", don't use "real" as a "ticket for escaping what is". As I am making an observation of the dynamics I observe in you responses, I am not interested in having a discussion about the content of your realisation. Do whatever you want with the information, this I am using as an exemplary observation for those who want to grow beyond the duality of "real" and "illusory".

At the end of the video he said he does.

@Swagala Painful at first, there ain't really a way around it. I also had a period of arrogance as to my understanding, in the process of which I was neglecting very real things in my life I needed to work on. Think it like this - you either refuse to accept it and never learn what it really is about, or humble yourself and start anew. Believe me, after the painful process has passed (that is the exemplary fact that you are growing), what you will experience will be 1000 times more worth it. To give you a heads up, that's how purification works - shedding beliefs and ignorance is a painful process. But ask yourself - do you really want to stay ignorant or are you willing to pay the price? That is what it boils down to.

@sausagehead There are various forms of meditation, all dependant on technique, focus and experience of the individual. As well, there's a great amount of variety in the depth and extent, to which one is "present". You just have no idea to what extent you can be conscious. It's not a binary "present/ not present" . What you can observe by making lifestyle changes, by removing certain toxic habits, improving diet, sleep and so on is that naturally you will become "more" present. I advise you to start develop a more sophisticated understanding of how one accesses such meditation states, what is their meaning and so on. Simply asking won't cut it.

@legendary That was something that came to me as a realisation at a certain point. Should really billionaires exist, or are they a consequence of unregulated capitalism? A feature of it? What one can observe is that part of the ideological mechanisms that protect that system include the justification of billionaires. One that resonates with the idea of becoming a billionaire, is ideologically part of that system. I myself had such aspirations until I outgrew them to a far deeper sense of purpose. One in which as long in I'm in a place of abundance, rather than scarcity (something that should be available to every human being), I wouldn't care at all about all that luxury - it's appearance without substance. A serious redistribution needs to occur - and yes, it will be threatening to billionaires. But the amount of creativity and human potential that will be released from such a change, will be enormous - nothing we have ever seen up to date. Rather than thinking it from the justification paradigm, where to the ego seems like taking, think of it through the collective paradigm - giving to all those in scarcity through the so much discussed social politics. I'm not about socialism. But it's just laughable to see the justifications for progress and creativity from unregulated capitalism - this is one of the most ineffective systems in driving the human race.

@Annoynymous Very familiar, brother. I live in Bulgaria, where things are at least OK financially (yet still the average citizen is 6 times poorer than a US citizen), but the majority of the country is at a very low conscious development. It's distribution will be something like 20% Red, 70% Blue, 10% Orange. The push-back I have from every single peer or family member as to the developments I do in my life (I've never brought up things like consciousness, spirituality or psychedelics) is ridiculous. Something I realised as part of my journey is to prepare for studying abroad (I'm applying this year) in the US (particularly in California), precisely because the surroundings have such an impact on one's consciousness. There's something "demoralizing" in not knowing anybody that shares your vision or direction. What comes with these conditions is an incredible strength and a peculiar POV that allows you to see things without taking them for granted. The fact that you are that conscious despite the circumstances is already pointing to a spiritual talent that you have, so don't compare yourself to the people around you. You are on an entirely different journey that society will be able to appreciate only after thousands of years. I'm not even exaggerating. I can say that Actualized.org has had also a very profound effect on my consciousness. Utilise it to your fullest extent. It changed my entire political view, my position on psychedelics, my understanding of society, sex, relationships, leadership, conscious work and so much more. Most importantly - meet yourself where you're at. The specific conditions/position you find yourself living in play a role in your purpose and greater direction. Never forget that.

If you develop your focus and self - love, psychedelics are literally magical, you should definitely explore them more. Something Kilindi Iyi speaks of is that prayers, mantras, asanas, mudras, different patterns (mandala, Persian carpet), breathing exercises, martial arts and so on are actually tools to access particular states of consciousness through entheogens. Watch some of his talks, you definitely will find something useful.

This is an unnecessary dichotomy created by the mind to keep you away from actual realizations. Just do the practices. That shouldn't even figure in your head. Nowhere is there said you have to do one OR the other. Have a constant daily practice of embodiment and use the tools at your disposal. It's just ridiculous what the mind can conjure (this non-judgemental, for I myself have had similar "conflicts" in my head).

@EternalForest You have not even tasted life at Tier 1. You have no understanding of the stages you speak of, so all of the rationale is based on beliefs of what you think they are. The amount of life-purpose, vision, strength and will you have at Tier2 are nothing to be even compared. Your entire psyche and consciousness has opened towards infinity and oriented towards truth and manifesting your higher self (Selflessness). Even glimpses of those facets can have your juices going for months at a time. You seriously have no idea what you are talking about. And that's perfectly okay. When you've been fed up with the superficiality of Tier 1, your consciousness will naturally seek what's more. Can't ride a rocket ship before discovering fire.

@traveler That. @Consilience I'm amazed at the development of your perspective, brother. It's almost parallel to the some of my realizations and hardships. Thrilled to see where you will continue.

I am sharing this, as I know a lot of you are asking of good resources on PU, for are aware of the extensive amount of needy and low consciousness sources out there. Funny thing is that I came across the TNL channel from a recommendation on this forum, of which I am thankful. The following example is a great depiction of transcending societal conditioning and beliefs and being able to freely experience and express sexuality (green). A lot of what he spoke of reminded me of the book My Secret Garden by Nancy Friday. At around the 26 minute he makes some important observations as to not being ideological/absolutist in one's perspective and describes how he can hold seemingly paradoxical ideas simultaneously in his head - something that comes as a trait at Tier 2 (Yellow) - complexity and variety of perspectives. Is he perfect? No. But his content is for sure fairly conscious and he openly talks about his experiences as growing and developing himself.

If you're not willing to go through the hardships, you ain't serious. When you truly seek Truth and realization, Death is a small price to pay. But until then, work on complacency and mediocrity. You can also forget inner work alltogether. That depends on how much have you suffered.

This is a false dichotomy. It's not a matter of either/or, but rather the degree of consciousness you do something with. And that's from 0 to infinity.

@moon777light Yeah, it truly is amazing. I was shown a lot of what was described in that video through my trips. If you liked that, definitely check out Kilindi Iyi. Mad stuff.

@Riyaazbasha What part of your life do you feel you want to improve? Do you have a vision or a dream of where you want to be? Ultimately the only way you can know is by asking yourself. The answer will be specific for you. No one can give it for you, because they are just not you. So figure out what is it you want. This is a long process, so don't expect answers form the get go. Maybe you want to draw? Maybe you want to design and build machines? Maybe you want to get better with girls? Maybe you want to get in shape? Maybe you want to build an exciting life for yourself? Only one way to find out. Visualise and ask yourself what do you want. Most importantly - start loving where you are at. Don't do it out of insecurity or lack of confidence. Do it cause you love yourself and you want what is best for you. Good luck forward.

@Conscious life Whatever is said, it will not be direct experience of yours and will ultimately be a mental abstraction that only weights your psyche. How do you know if someone ain't just lost as well in abstractions? You don't. Only one way to find out. And for that you should drop the stories, because they are not what is important. Whichever paradigm you use, the point is to transcend it, not root yourself in it, because reality is ultimately groundless. Can't explain an abstraction without a different abstraction. So you have to drop it.

Start practicing self - love and acceptance of whatever arises. This is not a problem with the content of the thoughts, but with the orientation of your consciousness. Don't go on creating stories about why that is, because they'll be victimising towards yourself, because that's just the way your consciousness currently is. Love it. Allow it to flow through it. No way around it.

@Rahul yadav It doesn't have to be a distraction . There just isn't a "straightforward" way to enlightenment. Some will be swayed towards a more Occult path, others the a more stoic one. Everyone with their taste. So thanks for the share!

@Rasheed Yes and no. Your spiritual path is deeply personal to you - processing YOUR fears and YOUR conditioning. Spirituality simply means how conscious are you. You can do business consciously or unconsciously. You can be a conscious guru, or have shadows (a lot of examples come to mind). This is not a problem of content, but a matter of consciousness. So this means that whatever you do, your degree of consciousness is how spiritual you are. You can be a spiritually developed fisherman. And yet precisely, because it's not the content, EVERYTHING is the spiritual realm. Everything is spiritual. It's just how conscious are you of it.

@DreamScape The example Leo gave of Kilindi Iyi was what arose in my head when I was reading the post. When talking about this kind of stuff expect every notion you have or way to abstract and categorise to lose its "applicability". When looking in that direction expect VERY out of the ordinary characters and /or an incredible amount of courage to have gone so deep in "the twilight zone". This is something very, very advanced for 99.99% of humanity, because you have to transcend every notion of what reality is. Also I think David R Hawkins has spoken on visiting such dimensions.

@Beginner Mind You have seen the tip of the shadow of the mountain you have to climb. What you felt was direct experience . Your understanding of awareness transcended simple abstraction to directly tasting it. Nice for starters. Now what are you going to do after this? P. S. Don't obsess about responses or bumping your topic the n1 position. Whoever chooses to respond will.

@arlin This framing of the question shows that the psyche is oriented towards "going somewhere" or "achieving something" and as such the impermanence of life is seen as a threat. "Why live if I'll eventually die?". Questions that have a similar dynamic are : Why create anything if it will eventually fade to dust? Why change or save the planet if it will eventually be burnt to crisp by the sun? This POV is useful, but when it becomes a living experience stronger than simple "being" (aka to not have to go "to somewhere") one tends to see everything through it and as such is not be able to experience simple presence. Go for a walk. Go for a hike through nature. Draw. Socialise. None of those activities needs to "get" somewhere to be enjoyed. Only when you are able to fundamentally enjoy simple activities, can you apply your mind on top for an even greater expression of your Will. Learning to appreciate and experience without all the extra abstraction is something you need to simply feel better as a human. It doesn't need to have correlation with spirituality per say.

Will be sharing excerpts from my journal. You are free to chime in, this is not my main entry log.

Once you've suffered enough, you'll want to change. Some people are consciously more oriented towards growth and evolution. That doesn't mean their path is easier. Most of the cases they are the ones that have to go through that suffering. So knowing how one handles this is no use of you,cause you are unique. If you really wanted change from the bottom of your heart, you wouldn't be asking. When one experiences resistence it's because deep down you're more comfortable with where you're at now. No matter how much you believe or think you "must change", it ain't gonna happen if you're not ready for it. Meet yourself where you're at. Ask yourself, are you really ready to leave behind your current life.

@28 cm unbuffed You'll grow more just by sitting silently with what happened to you, than going on with symbolism about "corruption", archetypes, paths and so on. This ain't really a "high consciousness state", rather an example of self - bias and how the ego corrupts glimpses. This is not even the tip of the iceberg of what you can experience. Precisely because you had that you reaction, you have years of purification and growth to go through before you can claim any form of "transcendence".