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A woman needs a man who grounds her; literally being a man for her. You've heard of the expression "If you can't handle her, you can't handle the world for her." , I'm sure. Her response is very honest and candid and much better insight into female psychology than any other girl would give you, you being triggered at her is very unfounded and rude.

What would you like the solution to be, in an ideal world? Be very honest with yourself, don't lie. What do you really want to happen from here on out? Do you want her to never have had sex with another man? Do you regret getting her pregnant and wish that didn't happen? Do you wish you had more sexual experience? Do you want to accept her past and move on with it? Do you want to break up with her? Do you want to have an open relationship and fuck other women to get experience while still dating her/raising your child? I find it nice emotionally to first really not lie to myself and ask myself what I really want before what's possible. Then I figure out how to marry what's possible and what I want. Just make sure not to judge yourself or her too much and then accept what reality is and you'll probably find that this situation will resolve itself.

Cold approach is not an option for you then. Cold approach takes advantage of two fundamental things: volume and anonymity. In our current mega cities, you can take advantage of the system and practice your seduction skills by approaching dozens of women daily that will not remember you and you will probably not run into again. That's the basic idea. If you remove those two things then you end up with either a variation of a warm approach(which is basically a very extended social circle if you think about it) or you just walk around endlessly looking for an attractive girl to hit on which both defeat the purpose. You can still learn game in a small town though. The same principles you learn through cold approach, you can learn and practice anywhere. You just have to be a bit more strategic about it. IMO now you need to figure out what your goal in this journey is. Do you want a solid girlfriend? Do you want to be a seducer of women in general? Do you want easy sex? All these goals are VERY different and they have different optimal ways of reaching them. I'd have to know you more to give better advice but I'd say that if your main goal is to get a quality long-term girlfriend then a social circle is your best bet. If you want to get many options with many women then your best bet is to use the next two years of your life to become an online influencer. If you manage to find a way to make a location-independent income and have a public persona attached to it then after your two years are up then you can basically travel the world and have sex with as many women as you like, if that's what you want to do. Every other goal is a variation of these two ideas really. Relationships are based on intertwining your lives together so a social circle is the logical conclusion of that. Being a "fuckboy" is based on value and access so making money online while being a recognizable figure is the best way to achieve that in 2021.

What makes you think that there is such a thing as something that's right only for you? I have seen escorts a few times personally and I now regret it. It's great in the moment sure and it will give you that easy dopamine and release that you are looking for, short-term. Fundamentally though it is a pervasion of the relationship between men and women and it will hurt you to go through with it. This is coming from a non-PC/feminist/empathy perspective, don't think that's what I'm arguing for here. I'm telling you this as a pure hard fact. If you do this you will be hurting yourself, I 100% promise you. But do it if you want to, there are no rules in this life. Just my $0.02.

It's not really about the act of having sex. That's great but indeed not putting thousands of hours into. The part that's fascinating is that game fundamentally teaches you that you can control everything about your interaction with women, it's all arbitrary. If you start it off with sex then you can see how game allows you to basically have sex with any kind of woman you want. Any ethnicity, age(obviously within reason), body shape, etc. Then you can see how adventurous that sex can get. Fucking in a bed? Boring. Why not find a girl that wants to have sex in a car, in the woods, by the beach, etc. Throw in some toys/BDSM into the mix and that can get infinitely interesting as well. Now throw relationship styles into the mix. You can use game to find a long-term girlfriend. Or one-night stands. Or sexual and romantic relationships with multiple women(and men I guess?) at the same time. You could date two girls at once. Three. Twenty-five. You could date two bisexual girls that are dating each other and you at the same time! Combine entrepreneurship and passive income into the mix and now you get some really crazy possibilities into the mix. What if you could spend the next few years of your life travelling the world, dating and seducing women from all continents all the while creating content and working from all around the world doing it WHILE exploring all the sex/relationship dynamics I talked to about before? That's the true potential of game IMO, true freedom. As a straight male, I don't see what could be more interesting to you than the females of your species and the infinite adventures you could have with them. If you have other ideas, please share them and I'll add the to my universal bucket list

I think the question you're asking is if it's possible for humans to keep themselves accountable at all times and constantly take perfect moral decisions that won't harm other people. If you phrase it like that then you see how it's obviously impossible, even if all of us were enlightened and actually trying to act out of love all the time, we'd still accidentally hurt ourselves. See laws and the government as set in stone guidelines that try to prevent that from happening. Government ideally makes us freer, not less.

Female butts. The deeper my contemplations on life get the more confused I get about reality and my place in it. The only thing that I really can count on to ground me is a cute girl's butt, that has always has made a lot of sense to me.

Society is really killing us with sexual shame. I've had that same thought before, a girl rubbing herself against me will find it creepy if I get hard/horny. Obviously, that's what she wants though. Would you get offended if a cute girl that you wanna fuck got wet thinking about you?

Because sex is the sorting mechanism of human natural selection. It's not really supposed to be a random fuckfest. Nature is literally evaluating if you're worthy of fertilizing human females. The whole point of it is women select the men that are the best in their generation and breed with them to create better humans. If a woman mates with an inferior mate then she's making the human race go backward and she's failing evolution itself. If you look at it in biological terms then you should be really offended if you can't get laid. It's nature literally telling you that your genes should die off. I'd take game/self-improvement pretty damn seriously because subjectively the consequences are pretty grand. If you wanna put it on a universal scale then I guess it doesn't matter too much but personally, my ego gets pretty offended when the female of my species don't wanna mate with me. This is why incels sometimes literally shoot up schools. Because reproduction is not a joke, if you can't get laid then it's basically like the human race in itself is giving up on you. Porn is giving peace to your brain and telling it that you're doing fine; you're seeing naked females so they must be okay with you.

It's hard not to feel jealous if your sexual experience doesn't compare to hers. That's why I find it hard to see how a man could settle down without fully satiating his sexual appetite. If you commit to this lifestyle enough then most of the things any club girl has done will pale in comparison to your experiences so instead of being jealous you'll understand where she's coming from. Most of the girls I meet have fewer sexual experiences than I do so all the judgement goes out the window really. Most people tell you to get hypothetical abundance and get over it, I think that's nonsense. If you've been with 5 girls and your girlfriend has slept with 20+ people that's gonna bother you for sure and you can't think your way out of it. I'll disagree with this one. You should fully own your woman and her past and fully not judge her for all the sexual escapades she's had, even appreciate her for it. If you can stomach that then the level of trust, openness and freakiness that you will unlock in her will shake the heavens itself and you'll unlock heaven for your own sex life To fully appreciate your woman you have to be okay with the fact that she's interacted with many other penises before yours and not run away from that fact. Most men subconsciously(or very consciously probably) judge all women for sucking dick/getting fucked. As long as you do that you will never truly bond and connect with your girl as you'll always look down on her. It's kinda like how women want men to be vulnerable and in touch with their emotions but will judge them for it. You want a slut but every time she sucks your dick you judge her for it. Humans always hate the things that will make them most happy, a strange loop indeed.

If you're a man, the last thing you should be worrying about is if women have been indoctrinated to find you attractive or not. Focus on building power, social leverage, and charisma and you'll laugh at these kinds of videos soon enough. Stop overthinking random internet videos and go out there and make yourself a valuable man. You'll see firsthand what women are attracted to soon enough.

Dude you know it, so much fun. My fellow summoners rifters all over, I dig it You don't have to view it as literally going out to pickup a mass of chicks but the people that got sold on the pickup train are generally pretty into self-development in general so it's a good crowd to surround yourself with IMO. Just have to sort through the ones that are toxic and find the ones that are into growth.

Second he Game Global recommendation, I'm in a lot of these groups as well. Ice(the guy that runs it) is pretty well connected in the game community and he is a pretty cool dude. He took over the mantle from the RSD Inner Circles when they shut those downs to get away from their game connotations. Leo is 100% right, if you're a shy/introverted/socially inexperienced dude, you HAVE to learn from men more experienced than you. That is a ritual going back to tribal times that we've lost in modern society for some reason. This is from my first Inner Circle meeting many moons ago. Shot the shit with the boys at a restaurant and they took me out to a club for the first time. I think I went clubbing 50+ times before being somewhat comfortable inside of one, good times. For the ones saying clubbing is not their scene; I'm an INTP that was addicted to playing League of Legends 12 hours a day in those days. Clubs are my natural enemy and I still went 2-3 times a week. I wouldn't be the person I am today if I hadn't been to that meeting, really thankful to those guys. I still talk to some of them to this day and this was maybe 2014?

Can you elaborate on this, it's an interesting point of view. Reminds me of Jennifer Moleski's idea that women fuck the war out of men as a way to pacify them.

What is the point of the PUA/Game journey then? Just a way to self-develop enough to get the relationship you want?

What do you think about his transition from the pickup content to the more all-encompassing self-help label? He mentions a lot of stuff related to spirituality too. Do you think he's actually becoming more conscious as he gets older or he's literally hamster wheeling to keep up with the times?

Yes. Women are naturally more collective and think more long-term due to(I guess) their bigger need for safety and direct danger if they make poor decisions. I work at a high-end restaurant and if I bring food to a table and one meal is healthy and the other one looks like a child's meal(fries and a burger vs lean protein and veggies) then 95% the healthy meal is going to the woman in the couple. Women also tend to have better spatial awareness than men( I've heard somewhere that they have literally more peripheral vision than us and it makes sense.) Most of the time when I deliver food I notice that the women notice me coming more than the men do. They literally speak and get lost in their monologues and get surprised when food magically arrives on their table.

Sorry to revive this but this is one of the best posts I've ever read on this forum, it's so interesting in so many different ways. @Emerald you did a really good job posting a real guide for women that have a specific agenda(finding a healthy compatible long-term relationship) and how to screen out the men that don't fit the agenda and the post was so good that it itself worked in screening out the men that replied to it! Holy what a loop, I'm impressed. This is a really great point that I see basically everyone(both men and women) ignore. Tribes are really important and your life satisfaction will be poor without it. Especially your point about women experiencing men in their natural context, that's a magical one. @The men replying to this post that are confused, this advice is not meant for you and you shouldn't take it. There is a reason pickup is good for men and not women, it helps you develop yourself beyond the women that would naturally be in your social circle. As a man, you SHOULD go for the spray and pray strategy, dating/sleeping with multiple women is a great way to develop yourself. But the obvious conclusion to this statement is that while you're doing this you are in your UNDERDEVELOPED PHASE and a woman who is herself developed should probably avoid you. @All the introvert on this forum(yes, SPECIFICALLY YOU) should develop your social circle to not only have 600 people in it but probably THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS. It is paradoxically the best way to develop a lot of social power without having to constantly socialize. The programs Social Circle Blueprint/Social Circle Blueprint 2 are amazing for men looking to achieve this. Basically, basic pickup is a really big waste of time and should only be part of your strategy, not the focus of it. You should develop a lifestyle that exposes you to thousands of different people and therefore sorts them for you. Combining this with social media and for the first time in history, you realistically have the potential to sort through the entire planet and find the best girl/guy for you on EARTH.

That's a fascinating point actually. I'm not an expert in evolution but basically what it tests is which males of the species are the most adaptable/strong/superior/etc and those are the ones that get to reproduce with more females. AFAIK with the bird species that you're talking about basically the most flamboyant male in a jungle must be one of the strongest ones because he has a huge disadvantage(being more easily trackable by predators) but still managed to survive. Humans are a little different because we don't really have a natural predator, we are apex predators. So the way to differentiate yourself from the other males is to be superior to them and rise in the human male dominance hierarchy. Absolutely man, I'd love to. Feel free to shoot me a message so we don't take this post too off-topic. From what you've said though, you're definitely on the right track, with good self-awareness. Low self-esteem is basically a huge counter to your relationship with females. I call girls specifically females because as a straight male, that's the most important part of your relationship with them. It's not a platonic relationship, it's a very serious biological and existential relationship that most people will never get to fully experience. As a man, the more you manage to conquer yourself and the world, the more your relationship will women will improve. That is because that is our divine purpose, to conquer the world for females to enjoy as we enjoy the fruit of our labors. If you view it this way it starts to become obvious why most men have trouble with women, they can barely figure out how to be functional and stop their minds from assaulting them, how can they be of use to a girl in that state? This is why Game is so profound, you use girls to basically trick yourself into conquering yourself. It's not about fucking lots of girls; that's just the bait you give yourself really. Quite genius if done right but pretty laughably toxic when done wrong. Anyway, I love this topic and could talk about it for days so yeah message me here or on IG, I'm always down to talk. I'm quite public with my beliefs and online persona so you can literally stalk my Instagram to see that I try to live what I preach to the best of my current abilities.

Yeah for sure, I think you're very right and that was also basically my journey. I had a lot of full-on Incel/Red Pill/Women hating ideas in me when I was younger. I didn't really understand women and they didn't seem to like me too much so I started hating them for it. Then as I started my self-improvement/game journey I kinda realized that this was just a random illusion and women never disliked me they were just mostly neutral and since I didn't offer them much value then they didn't pay much attention to me romantically/sexually. Now almost 10 years later on my journey, my relationship with women is amazing and it's probably the connection I feel/enjoy the most in this life. I feel like I literally have a spiritual awakening experience every time I look at/interact with an attractive girl, it's very magical and worth a lot to me. I don't think I could've gotten to this point without going through the first "anger" phase and if that's what it took then I'm eternally grateful for it. It's made me understand the world a lot better, my own place in it, and my relationship with the female gender. The connection between straight males and straight females is very sacred and the fact that's it's so toxic and misunderstood in current society is a great tragedy for everyone.

What are you trying to do on Tinder? Get laid easily or go on dates and meet a girl you actually bond with? They're pretty different processes tbh. If you're trying to fuck then basically your best bet is to invite the girl out for drinks within the first 3-4 messages you send her. You: In some form: hey, you're cute Her: Some kind of at least neutral or positive response You: Cool, let's get to know each other better have you ever been to X place(bar within 5 minutes of your place) Her: Some kind of open or positive response You: Sweet let's check it out, are you free X day? Then get her number and set it up. Depending on how attractive you are you might need like 1-2 more message exchanges to build rapport but basically, if she's attracted to you and open to meeting you then this formula will make it happen as fast as possible. If she says anything that's cold, fishing for attention, or wanting more investment from you then basically you are wasting your time and should move on to the next conversation. If you live in a big city then Tinder is 100% a numbers game. Your only goal is to maximize your profile and meet as many girls as you can as quickly as you can so you can actually get to know them/vibe with them/sleep with them. Trying to get to know someone through a texting app is asinine, don't get sold into that idea.

I don't think you mean that. You're just lazy and haven't put in the real work to cultivate your masculinity and understand women. When you actually become a high-value integrated man then women are a pleasure to deal with and give you very little bullshit. If anything men are way more annoying, more obtuse, and play status games that don't even benefit them.

It's a core game concept called abundance. You can be in abundance theoretically and watch spiritual videos that tell you to let go and tell yourself that it's a good idea but being ACTUALLY in abundance is a completely different thing. If you've proven to yourself that you can attract multiple women and have great connections with many of them then your whole perspective automatically becomes different. You aren't desperate anymore and it actually starts to make sense that if your woman wants to leave you, she should do it because it'll hopefully make her happier. If you're not in abundance then your woman leaving you is an atomic bomb to your life and your intimacy/sex life will be destroyed for the next few months/years and YOU KNOW IT deep down even if you try lying to yourself. This is why improving yourself/game/seduction is not a joke. You cannot fake it, either you can attract women in your life or you can't. It's very binary. If you try to magically convince yourself otherwise it's only gonna cause you pain.

Nightgame is just highly polarized in general. It's a fascinating display of human behavior. Nowhere else than in dark places with music and alcohol do you have girls telling you to fuck off and insulting you and other times basically falling in love with you and hooking up within 5 minutes of meeting you. Don't take it too seriously and man up. You're not hurt by girls being mean to you for 5 seconds, you'll be fine. If you ever hope to succeed in this pickup journey, you're gonna need a lot thicker skin. There are much worse things that are gonna happen to you than random girls finding you creepy lol.

That's a crazily profound point. What lead you to come to this conclusion? It's basically the cycle I've found myself in and it does seem like humanity as a whole is going through it as well. Yeah, the oppression is a huge flaw but I personally think women are designed beautifully and perfectly. The fact that they are generally smaller, softer, more gentle, and fragile is a huge turn-on in a lot of ways. I like being a bigger human watching over my girl and they usually like it too. Once the polarity is established in a mutually beneficial way it is a beautiful thing to experience.