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Polyamory is dating/loving multiple people Polygamy is marrying multiple people Fuck the law, @Inliytened1 let's storm the Capitol round 2 baby! This time we're making a constitutional right to have up to 8 wives. Anything above 8 and you're clearly insane so we'll leave that for the aliens.

It's because you guys are panderers!

@Natasha Tori Maru INTJs are the most literal type there is. For feeling types being factual doesn't really matter and for other intellect types like INTPs we can take a fact and just kinda ponder on it and be like okay I can see how perhaps this... could make sense. For an INTJ 78 is not 78.4 or close to 77 it's 78 or fuck off you're wrong and probably dumb

Yeah I agree sadism is pretty much the antithesis to non-duality. Interesting how that works but all the other traits if not fuelled by sadism are not that bad but once you start to rejoice from the suffering of others then you're on a dark path. Narcissism is a delusional sense of self Psychopathy is being in your own bubble and not connecting with others that well Machiavellianism is being super calculated Most people have these traits to some degree(massive difference between one of the traits and a full-blown diagnosable personality disorder though) but if you enjoy causing pain to others(outside of a sexually mutually enjoyable context) that's gonna lead you to all kinds of strange devil-like behaviours.

Most women in these royalty setups or imperial harems didn't have the option to say no. If you want multiple women to want to fuck you just build a social circle and start posting on social media often or join your local BDSM community, you get the same abundance with no ethics issue.

How so in this context? You guys think he enjoys causing pain to these women he's intertwined with? That would be very strange psychology, I understand wanting to inflict pain on your enemy but somehow making women that you like and bond with the enemy and enjoying causing them pain as you get them pregnant would be a level of psyche fuckery that is rare. I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and just chalk it down to immaturity and cognitive dissonance as if it was more due to sadism in this case it would indicate a very dark form of psychopathy that I don't think Aba is guilty of. I think he just wants to fuck and is famous and his upbringing doesn't make that paradigm possible in terms of how he defines himself so it comes out as him lying about wanting to commit to these girls while he just enjoys fucking fangirls.

How much you get hurt in rejection is also a function of your abundance. A lot of people are not in control of their dating life and feel like quality partners are something that happens to them every few years instead of something they can attract on their own so often times they are a devastated by rejection. For a person with more abundance of dating partners rejection is more like disappointment you'll forget about in an hour rather than something that genuinely hurts you.

Aba is a funny guy he's got another incident with another girl that popped up recently I think that's a clearly example of an unintegrated psyche in himself. He was originally chastising Destiny for being a player and painting himself as the responsible monogamous man but seems like he's fucking women left and right and lying to them to get laid. I think he's been raised in conservative muslim community and perhaps that's still the circle that he keeps today but he seems to not be able to accept his desired polyamorous lifestyle and in the process is unfortunately hurting many women in the process. I think this new meta of exposing people in 20-1h videos on Youtube is great for humanity, we're learning a lot of lot about ourselves which was previously swept under the rug especially in conservative communities that don't tolerate deviance and thus appearances are paramount.

Right but you are quick to make assumptions and don't have any polyamory experience. So I would say go learn more about it if it interests you or download Feeld like I told you about and come back after you've met some polyamorous ladies and let us know how it went!

If untangling webs of emotions is not a skill of yours and you're not interested in working on your emotional intelligence then yeah I think polyamory is perhaps not the right framework for you. It's not really a simple relationship framework but I think if done right is the most powerful and fulfilling for everyone involved.

Thinking with your dick is only bad if you don't think with your head first. Many guys use casual sex to forget about their problems so of course it's gonna have a destructive effect on their lives. If you do it with strategy and thought I think you can have your cake and eat it too and fuck multiple women at the same time while still building stable and long-term arrangements.

@Natasha Tori Maru Yeah, sounds about right. I'll take some time to reflect on what you said. @Jordan of the Shire I think I understand what you mean. Sometimes you paradoxically gain more control by giving up control and being more present and surrendered temporarily.

As you're learning how you want your relationships to be long term I think it's normal to oversteer in one direction and be temporarily unbalanced. The average man is so passive and not in control of his life that obsessing over control and frame dynamics is good for a while until you test it out and find a healthy middle ground that serves your needs while also not invalidating those of your partners.

Yeah, I agree. I've thought about it a lot. It's something I have to experiment with over the next few years for sure. Whether 15 years from now I'll be raising kids with 3 women or it was just a temporary phase, I couldn't tell you. I will give it a shot though, I see it as a natural evolution to my game journey. As you've seen here my problem-solving process is methodical. I think I will be better than the average man at solving polyamorous relationship problems because I'm good at getting to the root of the issue and not getting swayed by waves of feelings. I'm good at reconciliation as well so if 2 of my women are having issues with each other I think it'll be easy for me to assess where the problem is coming from, getting them to hug it out and if I was the one causing the issue by giving preferential treatment to one over the other to then solve the issue.

Same to you my man, I hope you research some of the concepts I've talked about. I'm definitely a sucker for love, that's why I want it with multiple people! I think to build really high-quality relationships you have to stop winging it and really get serious about what you want and find people compatible with your vision and life purpose.

Idk maybe this is effective psychological warfare? Seems a bit silly to me but it's clearly bothering a lot of people lol

Sure, we'll talk again in the coming months and years and see how our dating philosophies and strategies develop. I aim only for the best reality possible for myself and the other people I am in contact with.

I generally agree but I think you can follow her lead at times especially if underneath you're the one setting up the frame of the relationship. Being competitive for the sake of masculinity is a road to becoming a pseudo alpha male I think the most important thing is to have a lot of self-awareness and not pandering to women for validation or just to get laid. If you stick to your values and principles you find women that are much more aligned with you and you build high quality relationships as opposed to being the "taking out the garbage/doing the dishes so my wife will hopefully please consider agreeing to sex tonight for the first time in weeks" type of guy.

Right but now you're guilty of anecdotal fallacy also I think that thought of yours is not correct and also has been argued against by multiple women in this thread alone.

This post is for @Leo Gura and really any other that believe in an AI crash. I will seek to prove that this is basically impossible and AI companies are already in the too big to fail category and ChatGPT moving towards military industrial complex instead of a business to consumer model is a proof of that. The whole reshoring manufacturing of America over the next 10 years is based on their tech supremacy. Remember the whole meme of american workers retuning to work in factories? Obviously that will not happen and the US will aim to be a robotics and automation leader, which it's already well positioned to do. A K shaped crash will absolutely happen and will serve in further squeezing the middle class into nothing as their labor becomes literally obsolete. Leo your idea that AI value is based on AGI is misguided. AI value prop is based on enterprise workforce. The whole overinflated valuation of the market is based on the premise that AI agents can replace human employees en masse. That premise is still up in the air but as someone who works with AI tools and automation daily I'd say it's already a done deal, the macro forces are just too powerful and humans not adaptable enough. It's also heavily based in the military industrial complex really as you print money to make top tier weapons with which you secure global trade and force countries into doing commerce under your umbrella and get rich off of financialization and exporting the USD. The US has just proved in its Maduro operation and its Iran strikes that their military supremacy is as unchallenged as ever and the whole tech-AI industry fits right into that. Having said this I would say that claiming that an AI bubble crash is imminent or even likely has a MASSIVE BURDEN OF PROOF under it and I invite anybody to try and make an argument and case for it. I'm pretty confident that the corporate layoffs we've been seeing will keep accelerating throughout this year and it's highly likely that Trump and his Tech buddies will introduce some sort of UBI promise this year with the primaries to secure their votes and burry their epstein scandal further.

I don't think ugly people are ever outright ignored. I think they feel the two-class system and the lack of privilege they get compared to their better-looking peers and it creates resentment in them that feeds the victim complex that leads to a psychological cocktail that makes it hard to be a positive, fun and valuable person to be around.

Idk bro to me I like to define things clearly so there is no confusion and vagueness when I think about things in my own life or when I talk about it with others. I touched on everything you've brought up today, relationships get locked in either due to codependency or true alignment. Both can be love, depends on how you define it. The main thing to watch out for is infatuation without alignment as that will inevitably end in a painful breakup as the two people are not right for eachother but are attracted to each other for whatever reason.

No to me that's pretty accurate in my experience. I still love my ex and wish the best for her despite her being too chaotic to have in my life to the point I can't communicate with her. I loved her when we were dating and I loved her when we were on and off fucking for 6 months after we broke up officially. If you want to have a serious intellectual discussion like serious adults then we need to define the terms we use and think deeply about what we're communication about otherwise it's gonna be very surface level.

Plenty of ways to feel and express love. You can date 6 people in a polycule and love all 6. Maybe you love one more than another deep down for whatever reason or you're in a hierarchical relationship with one main wife and have 3 other girlfriends that you also love but they're not as deeply involved in your life so you love them less. To me love is not really the problem to figure out in a relationship, you will feel a lot of love for whatever person you're dating. The real problem is not having your shit together in your life so you create predictable problems for yourself and others or having psychological blindspots that you haven't figured out that create the aforementioned problems.

Define love