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For me it felt like I had incredible times with these women and we weren't compatible enough aspects to decide to stay together long term. Doesn't mean that they weren't incredible women and I'm glad I met them and through that temporary love that we shared it fuelled me to want to explore sexuality and dating even more. I think that a lot of people that date just one or a few people never really experience the opposite sex, just a little slice of it through that person or not even that person since unless you really introspect and master your psychology you're just mostly operating on your shadow and subconscious. Not to say that some low partner count monogamous couple aren't fulfilled but one I haven't met many if any and two a lot of the relationships I see and hear about clearly show just pathology and scarcity played out in real time. To pedestalize that as the epitome of human romantic fulfillment is silly to me. I know myself quite well at this point in life. I've been dating and learning about human relationships for 12 years now. My life journey has barely started since my business is starting to take off and I plan on being a digital nomad and travelling the world for the next few years and having incredible experiences with women from countries all over the world. I could for sure meet the most amazing woman I've ever met next week in a festival in Montreal before I ever embark on this journey but I will just ask her to join me and if she's the love of my life she'll be bisexual and we can meet even more incredible women together. It seems that you've put yourself in a box my friend and trying to apply this box to myself and dating as a whole. The world is literally infinite and so are the romantic and sexual experiences that you can have. I'd encourage you to go on Reddit and read through the polyamory subreddits and read people's journey in that world and you'll hopefully see that your current perspective is limited and not backed up by any data or research.

This post is for @Leo Gura and really any other that believe in an AI crash. I will seek to prove that this is basically impossible and AI companies are already in the too big to fail category and ChatGPT moving towards military industrial complex instead of a business to consumer model is a proof of that. The whole reshoring manufacturing of America over the next 10 years is based on their tech supremacy. Remember the whole meme of american workers retuning to work in factories? Obviously that will not happen and the US will aim to be a robotics and automation leader, which it's already well positioned to do. A K shaped crash will absolutely happen and will serve in further squeezing the middle class into nothing as their labor becomes literally obsolete. Leo your idea that AI value is based on AGI is misguided. AI value prop is based on enterprise workforce. The whole overinflated valuation of the market is based on the premise that AI agents can replace human employees en masse. That premise is still up in the air but as someone who works with AI tools and automation daily I'd say it's already a done deal, the macro forces are just too powerful and humans not adaptable enough. It's also heavily based in the military industrial complex really as you print money to make top tier weapons with which you secure global trade and force countries into doing commerce under your umbrella and get rich off of financialization and exporting the USD. The US has just proved in its Maduro operation and its Iran strikes that their military supremacy is as unchallenged as ever and the whole tech-AI industry fits right into that. Having said this I would say that claiming that an AI bubble crash is imminent or even likely has a MASSIVE BURDEN OF PROOF under it and I invite anybody to try and make an argument and case for it. I'm pretty confident that the corporate layoffs we've been seeing will keep accelerating throughout this year and it's highly likely that Trump and his Tech buddies will introduce some sort of UBI promise this year with the primaries to secure their votes and burry their epstein scandal further.

@Hojo It doesn't seem to me like you have rational thoughts towards this if I'm being honest. Why would sleeping with more women remove the opportunity for someone to find a long term partner? There's also polyamory and open relationships. You can be in a marriage and practice ethical non-monogamy and still sleep with other people. @Sugarcoat What exactly do you resonate with?

Are you a virgin and/or grew up deeply religious? Seems like a strange way to conceptualize the situation. I have like a 50 body count and I've met some incredible women throughout my adventures and dated some of them. Looking forward to dating and sleeping with many more, I'm sure I'll get to 100 in the next few years. Sex is fun and you get to meet and talk to people more intimately than in day to day life.

Why is wanting to fuck 100 women an evil though?

I don't think everyone needs to have a thriving romantic and social life for society to function. All the tools are here today to make you be able to build one if you so desire. The average man takes the path of least resistance as @Natasha Tori Maru rightly points out and then complains when women don't find them attractive. That's fine that's natural selection, it's always helped out species become great over time. If incels don't want to reproduce that's fine with me, I'll get rich and impregnate 5 women and if I need to knockup even more then that it will be my honour and I gladly accept the responsibility to help female-kind procreate.

It's extremely exciting to live in our times. I believe Leo when he says when you reach stage turquoise you realize humanity has reached 5% of it's potential. The current societal narrative is blowing up and selling people tradition as an antidote is an very old power move to find wide ranging support bases. The first emperor of Rome Augustus used it to consolidate his power and finalize the destruction of the republic. Wait until AI UBI goes mainstream in the 2030s and people will get even more crazy as they feel as their existence is now meaningless now that they're now enslaved by cookie cutter work. Freedom is terrifying to humans because we're not used to it but it's obviously beautiful. This new right "masculinist" movement is kind of dumb because it doesn't really even preach self-improvement like the pickup movement did in the 2000s and 2010s. What good comes from demonizing female sexuality and technology? Congrats you're now an incel with no market leverage. It's beautifully ironic that a lot of the ones that preach it are hypersexual themselves and use their social media platforms to get a bunch of women and print cash from their audience that's too underdevelopped to understand what hypocrisy looks like. You can see it with hstikkytokky from the red pill netflix doc who roasted onlyfans girls calling them degenerate whores while actively building an onlyfans agency. At least he was wise enough to take a break from social media and reevaluate and life philosophy; hopefully he's wise enough to cure his own cognitive dissonance.

It's 100% a skill issue and light narcissism. You shouldn't take this stuff too seriously in terms of internalizing shame due to being unsuccessful with women. If you're naturally good at something you'll rarely get great at it Workout, go out regularly, get some status through social media and make a list of the hottest single women in the world that are your personal 10 and make it a mission to cum in at least one of them. Enjoy sexuality, it's beautiful but when you internalize being an incel then of course giving up is gonna take a load off your shoulders momentarily. MGTOW is a thing for a reason and those guys all seem miserable and like they're coping hard lol

BPD is a diagnosis that you fit. To qualify as such you need 5 of the 9 symptoms. So if a guy dates a woman with an intense fear of abandonment that flies into explosive rage every so often that's not qualifiable as a personality disorder but I mean you're gonna have a BPD sounding story. As well as if you combine bpd + bipolar the lifetime prevalence is more like 8%. Plus if you hang around self-development circles with guys that are the pickup kind and/or have dated a lot of women I wouldn't be surprised if it was statistically true that 30-40% of them have dated someone with BPD symptoms for a period of time. Yes you're correct that's why I mentionned they're not intrinsically evil people they have a wounded ego that deleted most of its empathy as survival response and basically creates chaos where it goes as a result. On the sadism part : "Psychologists Erin Buckels, Daniel Jones, and Delroy Paulhus led the expansion of the framework into the Dark Tetrad by demonstrating that sadism exists as a sub-clinical, "everyday" trait in the general population. They proved that sadism captures a unique motivational drive—the intrinsic enjoyment of inflicting pain or humiliation—which the original three traits could not account for. Integrating this trait was essential to understanding malevolence because it isolated active cruelty for its own sake, rather than as mere collateral damage for personal gain." If you also are familiar with the David Hawkins scale of consciousness, most humans are pretty toxic in one way or another until they reach higher states of consciousness. Doesn't mean all of us have diagnosable personality disorders but it's still helpful to recognize the signs in others and reflect on how toxic traits manifest in ourselves.

Why do you care what they think?

It impacts a lot. First of all if you're an investor(you should be) your gains and losses are gonna be heavily impacted by what you invest in. Even if you're not though an AI bubble crash impacts the average person in a few different ways. If you're in tech then there's gonna be massive layoffs, AI products are gonna become way more expensive and for retirees their pension payments are gonna go down. Also depends if that crash is accompanied by geopolitical events like a war around Taiwan which would send the cost of living through the roof for everyone globally.

AI has already completely changed my life and my ability to plan and reason. It's helped my emotional development since now everytime I have an emotional outburst or overwhelmed with something I journal about it and just input it all into Gemini. It's also allowed me to start my own worldbuilding project that I will hopefully turn into a VR MMO one day, it's helped me with the art generation which I never would've been able to afford on my own. My next step is to start implementing AI agents to have active labor 24/7 on my behalf, super excited for that. I think you're perhaps using it the wrong way or just throwing out the baby with the bathwater in terms of when it makes mistakes.

Admitting that a complex system(reality) is hard to predict is one thing. Lacking the ability to see where things are going and make predictions that you can test against the future is just anti-intellectualism though. We have flying cars today they just don't make sense to adopt at scale. Artificial intelligence makes sense to adopt at scale. It's already beaten the top humans in most linear fields. Already all human research is starting to include AI and soon enough it'll be mostly AI with some human supervision. Machines always beat human they are made for efficiency, humans are made for consciousness and experiencing things. It's two different facets of existence. Idk why this concept of human intelligence being surpassed is so insulting to people, @Leo Gura hates the very concept as well. I think it's the name, it's more accurate to call it Masterpiece Intelligence than artificial. It's literally taken out most intelligent researchers and thousands of them over decades with billions of funding to come up with it. Why wouldn't it be smarter than us? I think it's quite exciting and will only extend our capabilities.

Well the true answer is that girls are just people and they want to participate in the attention economy like anyone else. Now they're exposed to it through social media whereas before they weren't. It's probably not healthy though so I'm curious to see when the data on the widespread social media bans for under 16s is gonna come out in a few years if it was good for their mental health to have it banned. I do think teenagers should have some media literacy to be prepared for the marketplace side of it in terms of business and content production but the downsides are definitely troubling and it seems the data currently points to it being negative for most.

I'm going to revise my predictions and the overall title of this thread since I do change my mind and that an AI crash or at least correction is coming. Scenario A is most likely gonna play out sometime this year if the Iran war isn't fully stopped or Taiwan escalation happens. Even if there is a temporary 1 week naval blockade of Taiwan its gonna crash the AI stocks and the people invested in them are gonna lose money. AI is gonna thrive, succeed and change the world I believe but a temporary correction seems probably. Finance is quite complicated I won't pretend to understand it fully. Mostly trying to learn and investigate this situation with you guys. There's a pretty good video on it.

Si tu le voit choses comme ca je dirais que la plupart des gens se mettent en couple pour se construire le style de vie auquel ils aspirent, donc je ne vois pas le probleme. Je recommende au gens d'utiliser toutes les dating apps a la fois sa rend les choses plus rapide.

Yes that's a good point usually they approach with choosing signals and making themselves available.

I've been going through another awakening lately that was triggered by my 30 day challenge and I noticed that men basically always react to eachother on the street. If you walk confidently you will notice that you will either puff up more or shrink down/move out of the day depending on which guy you see on the street and how much of threat you peg him at. I first noticed it years ago while taking shrooms at a club but humans are basically screaming at eachother 24/7 through body language, it's quite mesmerizing once you tune into it. So really the odd that you trigger another dude especially if you make eye contact and don't back down is quite high, much more that said random dude would go to the point of harassing/assaulting a woman. Robert Greene talks extensively about body language in the 3r chapter of the laws of human nature, highly recommend that book.

That's a really good video. It's accurate in my experience that most men suck at approaching women, no such thing as a natural they were just socialized better than you were in that context. I remember my mom teasing me about women in junior high but she never even told me to ask out a girl, nor did my dad. Had to learn it from pickup coaches. And even though I was not the most confident guy at the start you forget most rejections after 5 mins. Women definitely want to be approached. I got a great one on film, I was doing street interviews with my buddy and decided this girl was too hot to approach. Then I said fuck it lets do it anyway and interviewed her and you can see she was pretty receptive and happy to be talked to, got her Instagram after. You can see though my left hand is jittering throughout, I kept my composure for most of it but I was really afraid of talking to her. https://www.instagram.com/p/C947lEPpMkn/

That's fair, I would say keep the hobbies and vision alive though. I would say it's one of the best times in recent memory to start a comic book and basically create your own IP, with AI agents and generative media it's gonna be possible to create the most alive alternative worlds that humanity has ever created and to do it by yourself/with a small team. I'm actually working on one myself right now! For me I'm in a similar boat of focusing on immediate cashflow to fund my bills and then working on a few separate projects on the side like this Legend of the Abyss IP I've been writing for like 6 months and also want to start a media agency since I host a lot of photoshoots and know a lot of models that would benefit from help with their media creation/marketing so that seems like a big win-win leverage. Just moved to Montreal so gonna see where I can take this over the summer. A lot of pretty women here boys you wouldn't believe. It wouldn't be a good place go to full MGTOW but then again I think every place on earth is a terrible place to give up on women. There are good times for monk mode periods of focus though, I haven't dated in the past 3 years to focus on the ecosystem I'm building.

That's a very naturalistic way to look at it. I would say it comes down to strategy vs coping then. Humans are build around using our times effectively to secure a better future for ourselves, that's one of the main differences between us and animals that live mostly in the present moment due to lacking the cortex for strategy. I think it's good to medidate and always enjoy the present moment even when it's mediocre but not to forget long term strategy so you're not stuck in stagnant environments over the long term.

Do you watch porn regularly? Being used to being alone shouldn't have too much with sexual drive. Technology mostly hightens competition, it's like globalization. The women in your immediate vicinity are engaging with the content of people living across the world and in part other men with more resources living funner lives than you. If you have the drive to compete it's not an issue but if your brain chemistry is out of whack then yeah it's gonna be overwhelming. The dating marketplace becoming more competitive is why social media and social circle game are so important.

@Zenterus What are you working on apart from pickup? Life purpose is definitely a big part of the life puzzle and without it you’ll invariably be bound by chaos.

You could call complaints like this perfect natural selection. All our history has been forced to adapt to reproduce and survive. The black plague was not that long ago with half your village dead on the street and dudes were like alright we're gonna make it fuck it let's still get it and here we are. It's even more brutal in the animal kingdom. A cute girl with headphones is what's gonna stop your bloodline? I think not. Go get them cowboy. I recommend doing this newbie challenge it progressively acclimates you to bolder and bolder approaches. Think about it, how fucking boring is social media? I guarantee you that you can outcharm tiktok. Practice a few teasing gambits and banter. Modern women are dying to get seduced. If you go into interview robot mode though then of course anything is gonna be more useful than her having to exert energy to answer boring questions. https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/newbie-assignment.34/

I mean if you're asking for my personal opinion 1) Obviously all men aren't trash perhaps only those who consistently inflict pain on those weaker than them. 2) Economic equality is a complicated subject that has to do more with macroeconomics and sociology than gender really. Men oppress eachother as much as they oppress women. It's the history of civil rights that feminism also belongs to. 3) Some men are loyal some aren't just like women. 4) Not true, in some aspects sure but most men I know aren't doing particularly well and for example now in terms of education and I think median income women in the west are doing better. 5) I don't think men fear strong women they dislike difficult women that create problems for no reason. Or they do sour grapes and hate on women they can't get . 6) Obviously not all men cheat I've never cheated and a lot of guys I know haven't as well. Truly a lack of character to cheat on the person closest to you, I wouldn't trust that kind of guy in business. 7) I agree with that one the most. Emotional mastery is complicated and something I struggle with daily to this day. Anxiety is a big one and misidentifying it and turning it into anger is common for me and other guys I know. Most women are also emotionally underdeveloped though.