Surfingthewave

Last journal entry here I've taken the decision to leave the forum and to move on from actualized.org teachings. I feel ready to do this, there are lots of reasons but for me it is about finding a suitable teacher and the right path at the right time. In learning how to let go of myself, it is also learning about letting go of the things stopping you from moving forward. I will continue my journalling as I think it is one of the most powerful ways to self actualize. I wish you all love, peace, self acceptance and luck on your journey. Namaste ?

@Leo Gura Thanks, you too.

@Raptorsin7 Thank you, you too! ?

@wordsforliving Really really contemplate what you have just said. Why do you have to attain higher levels of consciousness? No it isn't the holy grail, be aware of how easily influenced you are. Forget psychedelics, forget enlightenment, this is advanced work for experienced folk. Start on basic self help on why you feel you are miserable. Stop being a sheep following blindly what you watch on you tube.

@Serotoninluv Fascinating, why not publish? Let go of the outcome, it would do great benefits to this community. There is some research into small amounts of esctasy benefitting certain people with long term neurological conditions. For that hour taking drugs small dosages can help the nervous system in such a way the person is no longer limited by symptoms. Ie a person able to do gymnastics who otherwise is not able to walk in their own. Great stories but this thread has totally derailed.

@Serotoninluv Interesting, if there is such a massive gap in research, perhaps lead the way!

@Meta-Man I disagree. Awakening doesn't need to take radical measures at all. In fact it is quite ordinary. It's just a shift in Understanding and Knowing. Have you read the scriptures, or studied Tao? That's the secret, but big ego's can't handle it. Big ego's want massive massive radical measures. Why do you think that is? You are projecting classic statements and beliefs I have heard many many times before, it's actually quite boring. Perhaps do some self reflection. This work isn't like sky diving, parachuting or rock climbing, it's not an extreme sport. Be a bit more aware before you communicate some of your ideas. Namaste ?

@voxun A good psychiatrist should give you advice about side effects and how to stay safe. They often get a bad wrap. They should understand the workings of the brain and nervous system particularly when taking certain types of substances. Maybe it's different in different areas. @Tanz I guess some people are intrigued by the dark side. I don't have experience of going ultra conscious but then I don't feel the need to. Perhaps some personality types are more susceptible to seeking this, obsessive seekers, people with ADHD, self critics etc and people to whom it is their life's work (Leo). I guess no matter how enlightened you are you still got to live life, chop wood, carry water etc, but it can be beautiful.

@Pookie Thank you for your gracious comments. Sending love ?

@Elisabeth Its not about being cautious, transparent or couragous. It's about taking responsibility for the power and influence he has particularly on newbies, particularly at this time of COVID when people are more vulnerable. There are newbies on here who are already following his path, just look already. Just don't make the vids about excessive drug taking when there is no evidence to suggest this is a path others should follow. Or do the research, seek medical advice, write a disclaimer and only send videos to experienced enlightened folk. I've already read about followers on here ending up needing psychiatric suppprt following watching Leo's vids and not safely following practices. I'm not saying this is right or wrong I'm just pointing this out as this is very dangerous for those who are inexperienced.

@LaucherJunge @Elisabeth Agreed but Leo is walking a path with 950k+ followers. He has a responsibility. If not, I'm out.

(Unconventional) Psychiatrist "So what brings you in today?" (Leo) "Just wondering what impact 5meo will have on my nervous system if I take X amount for 30 days straight?" Psychiatrist "It will make you believe you're God".

Sorry this thread has derailed. My last question is to @Leo Gura Did you seek medical advice prior to your retreat or during your retreat? If so what? If not why not?

@Pookie Hmmm I disagree. Yes I think it is important to distinguish when discussing Mahasamadhi, I just don't know enough about it that's why I am asking. What I disagree with is really wanting to help yourself can be from a sense of lack. Why do we pursue enlightenment?

@Raptorsin7 I'm surprised he hasn't sought expertise (psychiatry etc) as there are a lot of followers on here.

@Raptorsin7 Yes i think you're right. I also think intense intake of psychedelics over a period of time may have affected his nervous system from what he describes (I'm no expert though). What I do know is your nervous system is responsible for, as well as many things, emotional regulation which can impact on decision making etc. Maybe stick to the meds (meditation that is).

@Pookie It depends on how you look at it. You can unite with Infinite Love without leaving the physical body. But seemingly for Leo and for other seekers that's not enough. But is that not the sense of lack, pulling you towards it? @Meta-Man good for you.

@Meta-Man If so, why are you here?

@Meta-Man How do you know out of interest, what are your sources?

@Mada_ I'm not quite sure what you mean, but as he is a spiritual teacher and he has thousands of followers, it's important to critique his work as you would any other. If you're not then I would question that.

@Pookie I've been to a Day of The Dead celebration in Mexico, it was amazing. You're right certain countries fear death and struggle to talk about it openly. However, this is different, this is an intent to die. If I am Leo, I hope to be the rational, logical voice in his head, that's all.

@Commodent Yes I do believe he would. @Pookie I disagree. Leo could live a truly wonderful life as an enlightenment being in his physical body. Lots of teachers do. @Mafortu Yes there is a sadness in his face. After all these years of work. Perhaps imo all these years of studying and exploring reality he has lost touch of the amazingness of reality in the physical body. He talks of hearing I love you for the first time. That also made me sad. But take from it what you will. @Raptorsin7I think it's important to point out the dark side of the path and we shouldn't be blindly following someone, we should be critical and be open to discuss what information is presented.

@Meta-Man How do you know what the ego is out of interest? @Adam M Thank you, back at you. Still don't think Leo is safe and/or sane though!

@fridjonk @fridjonk @GodDesireOnlyLove @Meta-Man That's not what ego is. @Adam M Thank you. I know my shadow work is projecting here, I'm still grieving for a love I lost. Who's perfect, right?

@fridjonk You can have ego death without leaving your physical body. I think Leo has stepped into the dark side and needs a break and some help that's all. @Preety_India Thank you.