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Sorry if i said something out of place. Idk exactly what i said wrong but I'll try to keep my personal matters out of here. Lol

@Faceless thank you (:

Fear from what? Not knowing? I'd like to make a little twist here, "As long as there is this need to become psychologically content one is moving in accordance to happiness. A movement to reach happiness"

According to his words, He believes jesus IS the truth. So..

I don't think all belief is driven by fear. For example, I can't say i am enlightened because i am not. But i believe in source field and consciousness. Its the only thing that makes sense to me after i seeked answers though islam and I couldn't find any. The current interpretation of islam doesn't make sense. I can say that THIS belief is driven by curiousity? Or the search for happiness. A final peace of mind. It is still a belief but doesn't have boundaries. I think it's a belief that is very flexible because in it, you believe that the truth is everywhere. You're open to anything and you add it to a brain map. Actually only through this i looked at islam, my original belief, differently. Not saying i am a muslim again. But saying islam is a part of the big picture. Piece of the puzzle.

Was just about to say that ?

I actually watched that video the other day and it touched me personally. Cause i remember i came to this conclusion that my purpose in life is to be happy around 8 years ago while being a total muslim. But everyone around me said im naive and lazy and just wanna live my life freely without working hard. So after all these years when i start seeking answers and see that the path im following is leading me to the answer my heart already came to years ago, i know I'm on the right path :3

I don't think enlightenment is no thought. Enlightenment is detaching yourself from the thought. Making a space and just watching it from a far. Like what sadhguru once said he said its like watching traffic jam from a plane. It doesnt bother you but its there. He also said trying to stop thoughts is not the right way cause human being got to this point of thought and intelligence through time. Why do we wanna go back?

Why did you assume he didn't?

Being aware does not need our physical form as human beings. It does not need intelligence nor even being "alive". being aware of consciousness is just is. How many videos or books have you viewed that told you the way to enlightenment and to awareness is through letting go of what defines you and letting go of your ego and just living in the moment etc? That means ego blocks awareness and makes us feel separate. But then the whole universe doesn't have ego. Rocks, animals, chairs plants. All of those don't have an ego. So nothing is stopping them from being aware that they are just consciousness, of course if you ditch the idea that being aware needs a human form, since like said before, it is not needed to be aware. I know what im saying is the opposite of what leo said so I'm probably missing a point or just talking about a completely different thing, but why can't a rock be aware? What is stopping it?

Jesus dude, putting words in my mouth again. I never said i think you're better than me. I said YOU think that you're better than me. Stop thinking you can "help" me when you don't even read what im saying.

? You need to stop making assumptions about what i know and what i don't know honestly. Or anyone else. Actually let me rephrase. When you make the shift you will stop thinking that you're better than anyone else. (;

@SFRL i have no words against that unfortunately c: You beat me haha

Maan, you literally keep putting words in my mouth. First i did not say anything about understanding consciousness to not be only one and that is me. I agree with that. I know that. But I am not conscious to that experience, yet. Because my human mind and ego are stopping me. Second i didn't refer to awareness as an it to make it a separate thing. Im only referring to the awareness experience as an it. Third, everything you said in the last paragraph, i know. You're telling me something i know and i keep telling you that i know it. I only said that i am not aware of it. I am not enlightened. This whole post is about enlightenment but you keep bringing up mental understanding. So please if you want us to go further into this discussion stop bringing up mental understanding that happens without the brain of a human being. Im talking about enlightenment

Omg hahah. Naruto actually had many spiritual references. I love it ❤️❤️

Actually i watched that video for Rupert spira, he said you either realize it or you don't. He made this analogy about a movie playing on tv that you are very focused on, if someone tells you "look at the screen" what do you do? You already are looking at the screen but youre not conscious of it cause you're focused on the landscape. He said all you have to do is change your focus like a camera lens and you'll just see it. You'll know the movie is just playing you'll enjoy it. It's like, what's seen can not be unseen lol. He also said it's not an event or a shift. It's just a realization? Not sure if it works that way but it kinda makes sense.

Oh man i know what you mean. I was stuck there once and i do not wanna go back there lol I'm trying to be very careful not to get caught in a concept deluding myself it is the truth unknowingly. That's why after reading something new i get into a short mediation and compare it with everything else that i know to make a bigger brain map without prejudice

Although i completely disagree with the first part, i completely agree with the second. :3

@zoey101 ❤️

@Truth Addict oh i actually haven't watched this video yet. Will check it out in a bit and let you know. Thank you!

first, excuse me for the f*king mess on top. I'm on phone and i have to idea how to delete quote holyshit lol Second, have i ever questioned my beliefs? My god, i was born a muslim, was a devoted Muslim till the age of 26. Had many questions that the current interpretation of islam could not answer. I have to say it was so painful slowly realizing your whole life is a lie you know. Cried while praying to god to save me from my self and shit. But then i step by step started finding a path. A mixture of many different beliefs. Including islam itself but not through old understanding. Through my own. So ye, i have questioned my beliefs. I went through family drama for it. So many lectures. Please be more open minded about words. I never said there are right or wrong beliefs. At the end its you who needs to understand and find peace. Do it your own way , but remember doing it your own way is called a belief. Your own belief.

Understanding is not the same as experiencing. Only a mind can understand, i agree. But not only a mind can experience. In a matter of fact, you're an object too. An object with an ego and mind. Ego and mind help you understand but make it hard for you to be conscious of the experience.

If it's not the truth, you'll know. your questions will not be answered. you'll reach a point where you're not satisfied. nono, i did not say beliefs are the truth. i said beliefs are ways/methods to the truth. big difference. and I also said not just one belief is the right method. most beliefs at core lead to the same truth or concept. but you choose which one that touches you according to your background and your own mental understandings. and i'll try to answer you question according to my own understanding. i think the truth is absolute. there's no "my" and "your" truth. there is, though, "my" and "your" belief or beliefs [;

i think the misunderstanding here is mutual. but the thing is, some people understood what i meant so i think my words arent so far off. it's just you can't grasp what i'm saying is all. And i don't think "spending days reading my words will make you self realized" is tempting enough for me to actually do it. it got me though. i actually laughed

yeah we're probably just lost in words haha.