James123

??? because thoughts or ego, (which creates so called you) overtake a lot.

It is not i dont know. See everyone gets it as an ideology. Therefore it can not be comprehended by thinking. it is there is no I to know or think, therefore I, thinking or knowing is impossible.

Because, you think all these stuff, thoughts or these sentences are your beliefs, you are a belief itself too. What is arising even meaning or what is even meaning of meaning? Where is the thoughts?

Lol. ?Besides the jokes, see this is the breaking point. “You” still think these stuff, but none of your thoughts is there. If you get this enlightenment is inevitable.

?. Just go in front of the mirror and think all these stuff, will you see anything in your so called head? ???

@Joscha if you are trying to be safe, thats the completely opposite direction of enlightenment. Because you die, when enlightenment happens. if you say will my body die? No having a body is thought itself. so dont take psychedelics.

Because “you” are talking “here”. It doesn’t, creation is just a thought. Creation has never happened, therefore all is not one. There is no such a thing as one or all. So called mind lost in ideas, meanwhile mind is an idea or belief too. you have no idea how deep enlightenment goes. When there is no you, or someone to think anything including yourself enlightenment happens. And realization happens that these are not even sentences. What is sentence? Word? Something you say or you cat even see? You write it or fingers? Or all these stuff is just a thought, not even? If you go to work, and dont think, will you know that you are going to work? If you dont know, can you be born? All is a thought including you.

Lol. Thats why enlightenment is realization is the so called ego tries to survive. YOU ARE ALREADY DEATH. Because never born.

Just let go, thats all what it takes.

Lol????

Definitely. ?????

Definitely, thats the reason why it misleads because enlightenment is not knowing even including word of now knowing as so called deep sleep or before birth. Definitely useful to some degree. However, as you said it detaches ego from you. There is no such a thing as ego or you. It is like swimming towards waves, instead of letting go.

Definitely. However, i am talking about people who are on this path. Psychedelics can definitely increase the level of consciousness, however enlightenment is realization of there is no such a thing as consciousness. Yes but this can be only understood when enlightenment happens, therefore the people who are on this path can easily stuck to have higher mind, which psychedelics provides. Meanwhile all is a thought not even. There is no such a thing as thought, experience, self or even no self. Agreed. However, even experiencing nothingness or infinite nothingness while having thought process is has nothing to do with enlightenment and this experience provides such a thing as state, and people try to reach that so called state in life time. However it is almost impossible to realize there is no one to have to reach a state. Imo, Psychedelics are climbing to hill, however enlightenment is jumping of the hill.

Dont you think that it serves to ego? Mind is already confused, dont you think that it will easily mislead as saying i am god? ? or experiencing the mystical god head? ? psychedelics are like using the best tools to cheat to win and take shortcut, however just cheating the self. Lol. ? thats why self gets more confused. And enlightenment becomes more impossible than used to be. Such as the forum, at least half of the forum uses psychedelics but except you (no you) lol, none of them awake. Moreover, they are more lost on the path.

@Someone here just an advice. Enlightenment has nothing to do with psychedelics. It is just a realization of there is no such a thing as monkey mind, there is nothing there. Not fantastic, amazing vsvs. Simply being what you already are. Thats it. Just go in front of the mirror and think is there anything happening in your so called head? Thats it. Whoever takes psychedelics they experience mystical stuff. Lol. Enlightenment has nothing to do with experiencing. Lol. ???

Thats not even close to enlightenment. Self is rough, hard. And what “you” experincing is hard core spiritual ego. Enlightenment is realization of there is no you nor world around you. Therefore flowing, being empty is inevitable.

When realization happens that there is no you, therefore no such a thing as state thats enlightenment, but after that realization there is no such a thing as enlightenment for enlightened one. Lol ?

Be witness of the thoughts.

There is no one to know. It is not knowing, shutting off the monkey mind. Not even saying “this”. Because still pointing out to something, showing a direction.

Even “nothing” is something you named and labeled. So if you take an example so called deep sleep, thoughtlessness, or before birth, thats what being nothing. And the main reason why no mind meditation contemplating, because when you go deep enough within thoughtlessness, you (ego) vanishes, and real You, stay as nothing, as so called sleeping. When you experience this during the day , thoughtlessness you (ego) vanishes, it will be exactly as sleeping, which is just being, nothing. However, in order have realization this, long hours of meditation, dedication is must. Mind doesn’t leave easily. However, when it is gone, sky is clear. No thoughts or not being identified with thoughts provide that nothing has ever happened. Not even a blink. It is actually easy, whatever the monkey mind says is not there, so what is left, it is You.

Definitely not. This is just a personal opinion and ideology, in order to realize the truth all thoughts, concepts and ideas, which are you, must be dropped. And enlightenment happens.

@Breakingthewall how do you know that these are sentences and you are exist, in the universe? You learned this stuff from so called humans how can you trust the language? So called Human made? Just go in front of the mirror and think, is there anything there? Or try to find yourself in so called body, if you are the body, when so called body dies, you die, but body is here? So is there anybody and any body? You are already what you are and where you are as always been, however identification with the thoughts makes you detached from the source, so actually there is no such a thing as thought, and when this realization happens realization happens that nothing has ever happened. You actually cant even think or know what is thinking. Not even dreaming, writing, learning or reading and began.

There is no god. Anything you say, feel, experience, learned, knowledge is not the truth. What is god? Creator? Creates what? What is creating? ???

Whatever makes you happy brother. ?

Thought. Not even close to truth.