James123

You have to go way deeper. If you really dont think, nothing never happens. Thats what enlightenment is. Realization occurs that you are already what you are and where you are as always been, forget about birth, not even moved nor began. Thats why meditation is must. Specially living in darkness and silence at least more than couple years. If you think that now is life, instead of non duality, this is not even close to enlightenment. @GreenWoods @PureRogueQ This what enlightenment is. You no longer operate from ego, just control the ego. No longer think as ego, you become the moment and just thoughts arises. Ego is just a device to connect to duality. Identification with 1 thought brought back entire duality (for ego). Therefore no longer identification with thoughts, only when it is necessary (because survival needs never goes away). No longer day dreams, future expectations. Being the moment and completely free. When you so called close your eyes, there is no time, you nor universe, just nothingness. And become the freedom and moment. Do you think after nirvana, you still operate as a normal human being? ? so what is the enlightenment for, mental masturbation? ? Guys these sentences are not you put down, but make you realize enlightenment is way deeper than your current consciousness level. Be aware of this and dont be stuck in your current level.

Nirvana is freedom from suffering. Not like oh this is fantastic amazing, so much happiness. It is non of that, out of the charts. Effortlessly flowing like in the river as sleep.

Illusion is a thought itself. Word of “Illusion” is an illusion itself. Only identification with thoughts so called creates so called reality. If you not know (no identification with thoughts) how can be there as “reality” , “death” or “mahasamadhi”? Take an example of “deep sleep” and “relative world”? If you dont think or know (sun, universe, daylight, eyes, seen, body, movement, I, life, death, life, deep sleep, enlightenment, vsvs), what will be the difference between deep sleep and life (or relative world)?

Thinking, mind or experiencing is a thought itself. There is no mind to think. Ultimately, this right now is the same as mahasmadhi. Thinking or no thinking makes no difference about that. Therefore no thinking. Naming and labeling and putting meaning on thoughts creates distinction. If you dont think, how can it be relative perspective? “Relative perspective” comes from thinking. If you dont think, can you come up as relative perspective?

? ? If you stop thinking, Mahasmadhi is now. Because if you dont think thats the end of the illusion, such as so called deep sleep.

It seems, you are beginning of this process. Just contemplate, meditate, let go, learn and love for right now. ? is there any water or anyone here? Good luck!?

You created, because “you” “think” “ the word of creation “ and the rest. If you dont think nothing never happens. If you dont think you realize you never come in first place, thats why going or coming back is impossible, because again they are still something that you have learned. Enlightenment is just being where you already are, as always been. Thats it. ? Additionally, when you think, firstly you thinking yourself as real. ? and after that rest of thought process comes. Such as when you say universe, you exist as human being and have thought about universe. But “I” is an illusion itself. So thoughts are thinking the thoughts.

These all stuff actually you dont have but something that you have learned. Who told you that, how can they be sure? Is something that you directly become conscious of it or something you have learned? Anything you know and learn is a thought. Dont take it necessary. Naming, labeling and giving meaning the words so called create so called reality. Forget everything that you have learned, whatever left is what you really are as always been. So called Knowledge can never take granted. Even “I”, or “universe “ is an knowledge itself.

What is me, everything, experience or memory? Where is your experiences, memories or everything? Eyes dont see anything or there is no eyes. Big bang is a nice theory. Just imagine big bang has never happened, it is only and can happened because of thought process. Including theory of Big Bang is thought itself.If you dont think you are before big bang, Now and nothing has ever happened. Again being exist or non existence is a thought itself. Whatever you speak about is something that you have learned. But you and now can never be learned or experience, can just be.

If you think, it gets real, dont forget real is a thought itself. If you never learn anything, including yourself, what could be your reality or you? Universe, record, experiencing is a thought or ego itself. If you realize what is the identical point of between deep sleep, before birth and now, you realize anything comes from so called mind (including word of mind) is an illusion itself. You are what you are and where you are as always been, not even moved nor began.

@Javfly33 nice!!! Love is the biggest superpower. Try to love everything as you, big damage to ego.

Birth has never happened. Birth, death is just a thought itself. Now is before birth and after death (if you dont think). Nothingness is now. There is no such a thing as going or coming back. Instead of thought process. There is no such a thing. Anything you say is something that you have learned, including yourself. Knowing is the greatest illusion, including knowing the word of “illusion “. These stuff just comes from so called knowledge, if you never learn yourself , including birth, can you born?

@Someone here whatever you think thats what your reality (ego) is. If you dont think thats what You are is.

Definitely. ??

Additionally, after enlightenment, you no longer stuck in thought process, day dreaming or future expectations. So called mind transforms and no longer operate from the self. You still control the self but not stuck in the prison of the self and free as the moment. You operate from the source no longer from ego. Ego is just a so called device to connect to duality. Thats it. Such as , entire duality or world becomes a thought process, like too small, world no longer bothers “you”, because self is within that “world”, “thought “. You become the moment and just thought arises, you are not the self that think the thoughts. Thats what enlightenment is. “Permanence” or “impermanence” become just a thought as “tea”. All wrong-doing arises because of mind. If mind is transformed can wrong-doing remain? Buddha

You are nothing. And that’s permanent.

No. After nirvana, no more. If it is not permanent it is aint enlightenment. You have no idea what are you talking about.

“i” and “thought “ is a thought itself. When there is no “I” (including anything you learned and know), you directly become what You really are. As always been. Not even moved and began.

@bibek678 live in darkness and silence at least 3 years. Just go out when it is necessary. Dont do anything. Thats the shortcut. Otherwise it will take decades.

Thats not enlightenment. After enlightenment realization occurs that dream has never happened. You are where you are and what you are as always been. Dream or everything is just a thought.

@neovox like you too??

As @allislove says give it time, relax, love and let go. Letting go of the memories, future and loving the moment whatever it comes the key. Good luck!

What about when you realize that you never did, and now is before birth, you are already what you are, not even moved? Dont make a big deal. As much as you make big deal it gets bigger, whatever you think thats what your reality (ego) is, and if you dont think thats what You are is.

@PureRogueQ directly become conscious of what you are. Dont waste your time, if you are dedicated about enlightenment. Let go and love. Peace!

Not ignorance, letting go. You think that both perspectives are true. No it is not. From that perspective there is no reason for you to become conscious of what you are, just have a regular human life. Otherwise enlightenment process stays as hobby and ego loves that. Entertainment.