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@Seraphim just read the link. Thats the last stage of Samādhi.

Not assumptions, direct realization. When “you” remove thought process, will remove entire so called self universe including “you” .

Infinite is something that you have learned. limitless or endless in space, extent, or size; impossible to measure or calculate. This is the vocabulary explanation of infinite. It is very identical with what you say. But truth never comes from learning. Not knowing is nothingness. If “you” can name and label the experience thats an illusion. Do you remember anything before your birth? Was there any infinite before your birth? No it wasn’t, because before birth was genuinely not knowing. Thats why your so called birth happened with learning and knowing. Awakening is genuinely not knowing, which is before birth. Read the page before Samādhi stages, when universe and space conceptualization collapses before the last stage. Cant be more clear than this. You should listen the men of intelligence.

I clearly explained brother, differences between nothingness and infinite. What is not clear about?

@SpiritualAwakening Because when you say “infinity” you identify or form it with “something “, and naming or labeling the so called “experience “. Nothingness has no identification nor form. As an example, deep sleep, what was before so called birth. If you dont think during the day, there will be no “during the day”. When you “think” as even saying infinite, you are right in duality. (Even nothing is a word, which is something , but cant explain without that word). If you never learn what infinity is how can you know the experience that you having is “infinity”? You can realize at that moment, “not thinking” gives you sleeping quality and realize that only thinking create so called universe. Therefore if you dont think, you are before birth. Thats why it is called “awakening “. You are already nothing, if you forget everything you have learned you are already yourself. You dont need to name and label to become yourself. You are already. Just empty your cup. Peace!

Welcome to Fantasyland. “Experienced” with an “I”. Read the Samādhi stages above.

@gettoefl i know brother. This is what osho talk about in that video. There is no such a thing as infinity, time or space. They are Just thought. You can read the below. Nirvichara Samadhi For the first time, true one-pointed concentration becomes possible. Even subtle thoughts do not occur. The perceptual limitations of time and space are transcended; this state is called Nirvichara Samadhi. Kaivalya Samadhi The final stage is to reach Kaivalya Samadhi: complete, final, and eternal union with the real, eternal form. Which is nothingness. Osho is talking about final stage as this. Thats why he is saying that he has been nothing for 30 years. https://vedicfeed.com/stages-of-samadhi/

There is no coming or going, or creating. Your Missing point is , You still naming and labeling the thoughts. Nothing has ever happened. So called thought process makes it. If you dont name and label the thoughts (even saying thought as “thought “ naming and labeling again), you are before so called birth.

“Thinker” is a thought itself . Your entire identity and life is just a process of thoughts.

There is no such a thing as duality, universe, infinite consciousness, time or space. There are Just a thought. As saying infinite consciousness, it is clear to see that you are stuck in duality. Because it is something that you have learned. But you can never learn nothing, because you are already. Which never comes from knowledge or learning. Truth can never be told, can just be. You can Read the below. There is no such a thing as infinity, time or space. They are Just thought. You can read the below. Nirvichara Samadhi For the first time, true one-pointed concentration becomes possible. Even subtle thoughts do not occur. The perceptual limitations of time and space are transcended; this state is called Nirvichara Samadhi. Kaivalya Samadhi The final stage is to reach Kaivalya Samadhi: complete, final, and eternal union with the real, eternal form. Which is nothingness. Osho is talking about final stage as this. Thats why he is saying that he has been nothing for 30 years. https://vedicfeed.com/stages-of-samadhi/ Peace!

@dflores321 At last stage he talks about Samadhi, which is nothingness brother. Same thing. ? as the video i shared for you. Thats why he says that he has living for 30 years as nothing. Peace!

Unfortunately no. Where do you learn that stuff? Listen the osho carefully.

This question has been answered multiple times. Nothing to negate for ‘me’. But for you something is still happening. I already know what i am, but you are me too. So just trying to help you. Just read the sentences carefully without any personal opinion. Awakening is not being selfish, it is been selfless. Being no one, therefore everyone. You need awakening, instead of judging, just learn. My guru? Guru is just a thought ? mind loves to conceptualized? Peace!

i am already what i am. But you are deluded brother. Just trying to help. You ‘did’ help ‘me’ a lot. Much thanks and appreciate. Just trying to help you and love you. You cant even answer the question. Again. Can you Answer the question?

Read the entire sentence. Chair is nothing as me. You need awakening to get this brother. Therefore there is no chair nor me. I am already what i am. Nothing to negate for ‘me’. But for you something is still happening. I already know what i am, but you are me too. So just trying to help you. Just read the sentences carefully without any personal opinion. You will get it believe me. Awakening is not being selfish, it is been selfless. Again. There is no such a thing as happening or not happening. These are just thoughts.

@Leo Gura i am already what i am. But you are deluded brother. Just trying to help. You ‘did’ help ‘me’ a lot. Much thanks and appreciate. Just trying to help you and love you. You cant even answer the question. Again. Peace!

Chair is you. Because you are nothing. Everything is nothing. Therefore there is no such a thing as something, there is just nothing. Nothing ever happened. You are still conceptualizing. There is no such a thing as exist or not exist. Nothing ever happened. Just so called thought process so called makes it. “Starting, coming into being “ has never happened. It is just a thought. You are already what you are. Identification with thought process (even thought is naming and labeling the word of “thought” creates identification) makes you so called deluded.

If you never learn what is “universe “ will it be exist for “you”? Such as, your life, yourself, everything is something that have been told you by others. How do they know that thats the truth? Is there any universal law says, oh this is universe and you are alive? You are already what you are, there is nothing to learn. Only so called thoughts, which is nothing again, created (thought again) your so called identity. Thats ehy masters says you are already awake. Or Raltson says awakening is already where you are. Nothing has started and happening, only thought process makes it. Therefore if you never learn or forget everything you know, you are before birth or after death. Because you are nothing, which is not knowing. Your so called life start with learning.

@Endangered-EGO when there is no self, there will be no universe. Because self and universe are just thoughts. Your thought process creates your so called birth, identity and universe vs. if whatever you have learned is just a process of thoughts, what is left? Even word of consciousness is something learned by so called self.

Why do you label that as God then? How can you give good attributes to it? Because, you guys are keep saying god. Even word of “god” is something you have learned. Because the “god” is nothing, as chair. It is the way that is. Good or bad just a thoughts. Thats what truth is being “nothing”. Nothing can never be learned and communicated, can just be. Therefore not knowing. So where is your infinite consciousness is coming from? What is infinite or consciousness ? Who teach you word of “infinite “? How do those people know what “infinite “ is? Is that them direct experience, or something that they have learned? Is there any universal law says that yes it is infinite? What is infinite? When you finally get it, “you” realize that there is no “you” to get anything. You are already what you are. Only thought process created so called life, birth, death, awakening, universe, infinite vs..

@Endangered-EGO Inner 0. Nirvana. Nothingness.

There is no such a thing as infinite, or universe. Whatever you have learned is conceptualization. You are already what you are, which is nothing, therefore not knowing. Truth is not something that you can learn, name and label as infinite, god or universe. God is nothing, which can never be learned, can just be. Only when you not know, you can be. Thats why you don’t remember before birth, because knowing makes you so called “existed”, as “knowing “ “your” “birth”. If you never learn, you can never born, which is just a thought process.

I have done deeper than that 8 and 10 gr dried shrooms. Infinite consciousness is still something that “you” have learned. Truth can never be learned. You did experience something as infinite, thats why you can communicate as infinite. Truth can never be communicated, you can just be it. Nothingness can never be learned, can just be it. Therefore you dont remember before your birth. Because you learned your “birth” as “infinite consciousness”. When you say infinite consciousness it is still something. I have experience so called infinite consciousness or nothingness on shrooms. But thats an still “experience “. There is no “i” to experience anything. You have to go deeper till crash every knowledge that you have learned and experienced till become nothing. When you become nothing, it will be a before Big Bang. Because everything is exist within your thought process such as infinite. Do you think you are in universe now, and something exist as infinite? Go deeper brother, till no one left to experience anything. Become nothing. Than you will get it. Get awaken without psychedelics. Because of your thought process doesn’t stop with psychedelics, you can never comprehend what being nothing is.

What is infinite consciousness? You can keep telling yourself that, but there is many things you are not yet conscious of. Nothingness is absolute. You lost yourself within the thought process. Formlessness can take any form. Therefore no form as infinite consciousness, it is just a thought, you havent dive in deeper. You need to crash that infinite consciousness to singularity. Even “infinite “ or “consciousness “ is something that you have learned. But nothing can never be learned, can just be. So stop misleading people. It will take decades for people to get awaken from this perspective, just conceptual-zing. You lost your way man. “Me” is just a thought. How can i “say” (another thought) something to “myself” ?