James123

Be witnesss.

It is created by nothingness as nothing. Therefore nothing was never created, therefore separation has never happened. “You are already awake” says comes from that perspective. Because Whatever you do, so called believe in thoughts or life dont matter. You are already what you are.

Because when “you” are awaken, “you” realize that you never born. Self or universe was just a process of thoughts, which is nothing.

Your birth is just a thought. You think that you have a body thats a thought too. You are already what you are, but dreaming the world of thoughts. You think that eyes see anything? Or is there such a thing as an eye? Right now is before birth, if you dont name, put meaning and label any thoughts, even the word of ”thought “. If you never learn or think, you are before birth. How was the before birth, you didn’t know anything, that’s actually where you at now. How is impossible to know something? What is knowing? What is “me”? Maybe “I” learned the word of “me”, thats why “i” am “exist”. “i” “learned” “word” of “exist” too.

Whatever you have learned since your birth is a thought. “Awareness “ is a thought, but the word of “awareness” point out to emptiness or nothingness, where the so called thoughts rises. Anything happens within the “awareness “ including thought of word “awareness “.

@Farnaby of course it is possible. Remain silent and still. Dont judge, condemn and fight with the thoughts. Just be witness. You are already awareness itself. Just witness whatever is there. Sooner or later, silence or present moment will take over so called monkey mind. Meditation, letting go and surrendering play key role in this progress. Specially after awakening experience, maybe so called mind will be permanently gone and transforms. Than %90 of the time you just think at the moment, rest is you are the moment.

If you have enough knowledge use them to willingly surrender and completely let go via meditation. Dont try to return that point as an “I”. Because, the force, reaching and expectations comes from ego. Only way to reaching that point comes from dropping and surrendering the “ I”. If you need recommendation, start to meditate (in silence and darkness) at least 1 hour everyday. Do not miss a day. And every month increase time of the meditation, if you meditate at least 2-3 hours a day.

Forget everything that you have known and learned. Whatever left is what “being” is. The top guru’s consider Jiddi Krishanamurti as a man of intelligence. Good luck brother! @electroBeam you too brother!

@Breakingthewall infinite. b : unlimited extent of time, space, or quantity : boundlessness it is similar with the dictionary that what you have described. ? Infinite is just a thought. Listen Jiddu Krishanamurti “i” posted for you. Because being nothing is genuinely not knowing. As your before birth. What can be more deeper than not knowing?

Go deeper. That infinity will crush into singularity, which is nothingness. Pure and empty. Before the big bang. Forget everything you know. Infinite is still something that you have learned. Anything you have learned is not it. Stop believing in 5 meo too much or stay in wonderland. EVen if you don’t believe in “me” listen the man of intelligence. Go deeper till there is no one left to experience anything. Be no one, be nothing. Definitely. Forget everything you know, such as infinite, infinite, intelligence, mind or whatever you have learned. Question is this, what is the only thing that you can not learn, feel, sense or understand? Empty your cup. Lol. ?????If “i” shaved my head and wear some guru close stuff. You might think that “i” am a saint instead of wearing black suit, because gurus or saints wear guru’s clothes. Mind loves to conceptualize everything. ??? you made me laugh man. Love you! But let me give you hint, when the so called mind goes, there will be no more awakening. Because every moment is identical and meditation. Because naming and labeling of the words ended. “I” said meditation for your perspective. All wrong-doing arises because of mind. If mind is transformed can wrong-doing remain?” “Buddha”. Forget EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE LEARNED. What is the only thing that can not be told, understand and conceptualize? You are already NOTHING. Stop learning, forget everything. Let the clouds go. You are me, because we are nothing, therefore unconditional love.

How do you know that these are words? How do you take this granted that they are words? Is there any so called universal law it says this is a word? Who teach you that? How do you know that the “person” who teaches you is right? Or is that “your” direct experience? Your first question should be, is it even possible to learn something? What is learning? What is dementia/amnesia? If “you” have never learn them can it be real for “you”? If you never learn “yourself “ can you be exist? What is being “exist”? Probably “you” learned that too, as learning “your” “self”.

At no self level there is no false or true. There is no such a thing as exist or not exist. It is exist and not exist from egoistical perspective. When non duality happens, all becomes 1, which is nothing. But this is not the case for ego, you can clearly see you define as exist and not exist at the same time. You are completely wrong. When there is an awakening, there is no egoic consciousness, all becomes 1. After that realization happens that was never a egoic consciousness. Therefore egoic consciousness and no self realization is not same. Because you are still looking from DUALITY PERSPECTIVE. Nothing has never happened. But for you it is true and happening. Therefore these explanations are given to you. For ‘me’, time has never began nor me. I am already what i am, but you duality goes on therefore explanation is happening. There is no false or true. Everything is NOTHING. You conceptualized awakening. There is true and false from dualitic perspective. From non dual there is no such a thing as true or false. All is NOTHINGNESS. Nothing has never began. Nothingness has no beginning therefore no end. These are not sentences, they are all nothing from non dual perspective and nothing for me. But you are me and thats why i am trying to help you. For you duality still goes on. Therefore these explanations are given to you. If you realized non duality, there is no need to explain to you anything. If you have realized nothingness, you would already realize these all words are identical. If you want detail answer of this sentences you can got post of leos wonderland. And read page 6-7 conversations between ‘me’ and ‘crazytobetoocrazy’. “I” did “my” best fo “you” brother. Awakening is not being selfish, it is been selfless. Otherwise “i” will never explain anything.

@electroBeam hours ago, James123 said: These guys have been meditating for decades. Of course they are right. Dont trust your “self” to much. Go deeper till no”i” to experience anything left. You need to experience nothingness. As ı said, Go deeper till no”i” to experience anything left. Because, you become nothing with letting go and surrendering. Because whatever you have identify yourself is something that you hold on to. you just need to drop down everything with surrendering. There is no such a thing as everythingness. nothing is everything such as, formlessness can take any form. But there is no deeper than formlessness. Because Everything is nothing. Thats why me, nature and you are identical. Because our connection that makes us identical is, we are nothing. İt is very clear too realize that you have no idea what are you talking about. instead of trying to debate, learn and let go the person, which 'your' 'self'. Funny. When you become directly nothing there is no more deeper than that. Brother have a direct realization and talk. Dont come up to me with stuff that you have learned. Please. Peace! Definitely brother. But, nothing is everything such as, formlessness can take any form. But there is no deeper than formlessness. Because Everything is nothing. Thats why me, nature and you are identical. Because our connection that makes us identical is, we are nothing. Therefore infinite.

This is completely wrong. When you realize that there is no you that have experience anything. Such as even the word of experiencing is you. You are the experience and experiencer itself. You can not experience anything, you are everything because you are nothing. Thats final awakening. These guys have been meditating for decades. Of course they are right. Dont trust your “self” to much. Go deeper till no”i” to experience anything left. You need to experience nothingness. Peace!

Awakening comes with loosing the ‘I”. No self. It looks like your monkey mind is going crazy. Sit in the silence and meditate brother. Give yourself some rest. It looks like , You are trying to comprehend awakening with knowing. Dont burn out.

As so called self. As long as you are happy

For some people it is easy. But for most people, it is hard. Who wants kill hisself/herself? ‘Die before you die’ words is good fit for it.

Even if you dont get it now, you will get it when the death comes. Stay in the wonderland, but truth will find you sooner or later? get ready to surrender?

@Hotaka nothing has never happened. Anything you have learned as your birth is process of thoughts . You have to completely dropped the mind. Even god is something that you have learned. But the real god is genuinely not knowing. What was your before so called birth, thats what god is. You don remember, because god is nothing, which is just being. Anything you have learned, feel, sense and experience will not be god. Whatever you know forget everything, whatever left is god. but you have to go long way to realize it. Listen good teachers.

?? additionally, biggest belief and prison is ‘me’.

There is no body. Embodying something comes from expectations and wanting. Meanwhile awakening is completely letting go and surrendering. Because there is no body. You even need to let go of the word of ‘body’. From this sentence, it is clear that you have no idea what are you talking about. Read it if you want to learn what the awakening is or leave it. There is only nothing. And formulating is that genuinely not knowing. Letting go and surrendering the so called self. Read the conversations between ‘me’ and ‘toocrazytobecrazy’. Page 6-7. Exactly same question that ‘you’ have asked, answers that ‘you’ have respond and same answer that ‘i’ have provided.

I answered exactly same question multiple time in the post. Just read it. When you are nothing, you are already awake. Because there is no self to wake up. That’s the point of awakening. Peace!

Read page 7.

ıf thıs ıs the case, There is no wasting time nor 'me'. ı am already what ı am, whatever the case is. time has never began nor 'you'. goodluck Peace!

Therefore, completely let go and willingly surrendering is the key.