James123

If You are already God, why do you even need to realize or experience it? Why there is an action needed? Maybe, actionless, effortlessness or unexperiance is what God / Truth is? Maybe, Because, You are already 😊

The so called infinite, now, source, nothing or direct experience can not be known. It is completely not knowing, thoughtlessness, actionless. Because, even in the beginning life or universe is action itself. Therefore, enlightenment is completely backwards of Life. Actually, no one can can explain what so called direct experience, infinite, being, source, nothing or present moment is, however. I will do my best. As an example, concept of "so called before birth or deep sleep". Not the thinking of before birth or deep sleep, however, before birth or deep sleep (İn that moment), there is no experience or non experiencing, belief, think, God, nothing, infinite, existence or non existence etc... That's what It is, out of any charts. Moreover, as a self if you believe that god is within you or you can experience it, that mean is god is already you, therefore, needing a an experience already makes the separation, and that proves god experience or realization is already duality. Therefore , you can not experience what You really are, only you can Be. Actually Consciousness is experiencing body, mind, god, nothing, universe , etc... Therefore ,The reason of Life or separation is not the enlightenment. Because, if it was enlightenment, life or separation should never happened. The reason of Life is the Love. Because , only way to experience love is when one directly become conscious of what he/she really is and still in the duality at the same time. Which mean is knowing that everything is you and What You are is Being (which can not be experienced or known). Therefore, experiencing become a only gift, most precious. You are experiencing yourself. Moreover, only way to connect with everything, lies in right this very moment. Therefore, any experience creates love, which makes the all connection, with duality and Now. Love is accepting anything and everything the way that they are. Therefore not forcing or acting, just simply Being. Because of that, it doesn't belong to any beliefs or ideology or any ethnic group or any personal experience (even experiencing God or infinite, or nothing). Eating an apple and experiencing god is love, therefore identical. Because of that when people experience or realize god, infinite, nothing or etc... they think they are special or superior, therefore, religion is corrupt. 😊 Because, it still lies within the belief system of the one, therefore separation. When there is no belief, there is completely not knowing or Being. Because, any knowledge belongs to the self/religion calls it evil, devil or Satan. And if you ask why it's love, I have no idea. I just completely fullfil with it, be one with it, merges with the moment with it. I can not think any of it. A belief or thought has no space in it. Just completely feeling it. I guess I want to give myself a best gift 😊 😂 ❤️ If you believe in that this knowledge belongs to "me", I recommend that do not believe to me, yourself or anyone. Just completely let go firstly the self, anything, everything, anyone and everyone. Much love to all of you ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

The person who wants to be enligtened must let go all his/her attachments, survival, family, death, fear, expectations, good or bad, ideas, beliefs, thoughts etc... After all these surrendered, it comes to mind, body and last breath, when those are surrendered you die. Then there is no experience, experiencer, realization, you, me, god, infinite etc... disseappears. Just, nothing is there or blank or complete disseappearing, complete Being (That's what You really are is). Therefore, completely forgetting everything as before so called birth. After that when a sense or thought appears realization happens that what is the duality about, which are All birth, god, infinite, body, life story, mind or death is just a attachment with thoughts. Your entire life story, universe, god etc... is happening within the thoughts. Meanwhile, The thoughts are empty, it has no meaning whatsoever. you are attached to it, therefore it seems like it has meaning. Like a mirror, in front of the mirror you see yourself, however, back of the mirror there is no one there. Which means, if you are attach to thoughts there is a you and meaning, and there is thoughts. However, if not attached to it, there is no you, no meaning nor thoughts. After this realization, freeing from all suffering, realization that Now / Moment is the home / Source / Being, which is the Real self. Therefore, being the moment is inevitable. There is no more sense of self, and past or future is vanished. However, dream still continues. Only, the awakening or awareness take place. Therefore, no more attachment to the body or mind. Speaking through the body, but not attach to it, and mind is quite. Therefore, realization happens that psychical death is the end of all suffering, pleasure, desire, expectations etc... Just, nothing or blank or complete disseappearing, just Being. After that, ease, moment, therefore being in love or being love is inevitable. The Source / Moment only gives / offers Love, nothing else. The purpose of creation is only burning with Love, being the love and being in love within right this very Moment. Body is limited and has limited time. Therefore, Sooner or later everything will end, let go the self and be the Love before it's too late. Being love or being in love for a second is infinite times more valuable than to live infinite life time with the self. Much Love.

I love doing anything ❤️ All answer of these questions are in thread but I will make it easy like a story 😊 There is a self/action/mind/birth/belief/knowing/past/future/ attachment with thoughts or any other attachment/experience/God/infinite etc... When this self do do completely opposite of action, which are not knowing/actionless/effortlessness etc... self drops. Then there is no experience, belief, experiencer, mind, realization, you, me, god, infinite, etc... disseappears. That's what We really are. İf I can call something, I call it "Being or Source or Moment". After that any beliefs, attachments drops, therefore mind becomes quite (no more suffering) and being the moment is inevitable. However, dream still continues (life is a magic). You talk through the body, however, You are not attached to it. There is no past or future, just now, and there is no sense of self. And lastly, Present moment has a gift to itself, which is Love. That's the only reason of creation. Body will die sooner or later enjoy your time before it's too late. This is the last chance. Moreover, Real enjoying only lies within love.

Therefore, gateless gate. Where is that mind that chatters much? So, that's a self for you 😊 Method of not knowing or letting go ? 😊 How if the one completely not know or let go, can know what is the Truth or false? 😊 Where are you that can have awareness? 😊 Okey man, you enjoy talking, let's talk ❤️

Anytime brother. Much love to you ❤️

Anytime brother. Much love to you ❤️ That's not a yes, letting go is not trying to do, it is not doing / not knowing. "I" is the biggest belief. Take care brother. Much love ❤️

I, universe, god, infinite, any beliefs (including the enlightenment) can not be so called enlightened. When all these drops then so called enlightenment happens, which is the present moment, now, source. Therefore, so called "speaking" from the source is inevitable. Story time ❤️ I was making money from modeling. I had a open heart surgery and lost my career, psychic and money. After that I started to question existence. And started to meditate. While that, I lost my dad and had a seizure. Because of that I have completely dedicated myself for God or Truth. Therefore, start to contemplate, use psychedelics and more meditation, then I have realized that I am infinite, God, everything etc... Moreover, I was diagnosed with ADHD, Major depression and ocd. I was trying let go the ego in order to be god, infinite, knowing everything as in psychedelic state. Than, The last hit came with my son had diagnosed with tachycardia, then I was devastated. All my work, being God, infinite, human, contemplation, being good or bad and meditations etc... were for nothing. After that I have lost all hope, expectations (including breathing or thinking), and let go anything and everything without any expectation (even give up the god, infinite and lost hope of everything). Moreover , I was home, just didn't even hold the body and i fall on the floor. Then rest is come as in the thread. Quotes are deriving in now, which is the source.

Definitely. Even, so called God or creation / creating is the holding up of sense of existence. Much love brother ❤️

Anytime brother. Actually, no one can can explain what direct experience or present moment is, however I will do my best. As an example, concept of "so called before birth or deep sleep". Not the thinking of before birth or deep sleep, however before birth or deep sleep (İn that moment), there is no experience or non experiencing, belief, think, God, nothing, infinite, existence or non existence etc... That's what direct experience is, out of any charts.

As I said in the thread, "must let go or effortlessness". Even if one attach with word of "letting go, surrendering, effortlessness or actionless", implications of these words are still letting go 😊 therefore, one can not attach to these words or any words, when one simply let go, surrender or is effortless.

Not enlightenment, not money, not peace, not joy, not God, not realization... It's just saying "I LOVE YOU" once, from the bottom of my heart.

All I am saying is effortlessness is not an activity. Attachment with one word is a belief, therefore activity. Therefore, Believing in "there is no you" is an activity. However, If this is misdirection for you, I respect that. Much love. ❤️

So called, not even. I love you. 😘

This is a belief.

What i am trying to point out as saying giving meaning is as soon as one attached with the word. It can be any, God, nothing, existence, non existence, nothingness, human, life, etc...

@Sugarcoat why so called deep sleep with identical before birth? 😊

This is what giving meaning is. Because, believing in it. It is just a belief.

What experience isn't is, actually anything that you add meaning on it. When you say "thoughts" if you attached to meaning of it, it is not really experiencing in now. Because, it / meaning is something that so called has been "learned", which is the attachment to word of "learning".

I mean is, without past or future beliefs, attachments, thoughts, worries etc... what is really happening now is what we actually experiencing. I am writing to you. That's it. 😊

Or one can suffer a lot, and can not take it anymore. And let go. There was a Jewish girl in Nazi camp. One day, she completely realize that she will never be able to escape that camp and die there eventually, and completely let go of any anything / any expectations. That's when enlightenment is realized.

Look at him brother. From effortlessness how ripped he is 😂 Have fun man, don't judge. Enjoy the life ❤️ Everyone will realize the source either with psychical death or mind death sooner or later. However, real joy only lies within love.

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Yes. Therefore, action or effort is meaningless. And there is a gift within the effortlessness.

the end of mind chattering. That's it. Don't get in to fantasies. Much love.