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Social media is creating not only echo chambers but sensationalizing life so people see extremism everywhere, and not the boring 95% in the middle that is average daily life. It's mostly done because of the algorithm, because it makes money and nets subscribers. It also can create resentment as people show off the most lavish aspects of life that are out of reach to most. Proper perspective is important in this regard. Life is not Reed Timmer screaming his head off as he drives the dominator into an F4 tornado. (If you haven't seen his Cole, OK footage it's really good)

It only seems limiting because we are at this point in our genetic and technological development, and not some other time. Humans, especially in the age of social media, lack patience and want everything now. They also lack the perspective of being able to see things from someone else's point of view, or the view of context on how life used to be experienced in the past, or how it might in the future. We can only experience the "now" and the "now" is what determines our feeling state so that's where we derive a lot of our context on life. It's like blaming the slave owner in 1800 for owning slaves or blaming the aging boomer for being a racist when those were cultural norms at the time. It's silly to blame people for past actions based on cultural mores at that time, yet people in the here and now do it all the time. You learn from the past, you don't sit and brood over it, or blame people now for the actions of their ancestors and demand reparations. Undeveloped people do this. Give it another 100 years, or 500.... assuming we don't invent a self aware AI that destroys us before we reach that point. We are not doing the things you suggest because we haven't reached the right level of development to do so. Nature is savage if you really observe life on this planet... just saying. Tough pill to swallow by those hipster progressives who talk about nature being "pure and innocent" and mankind being the evil ones... it's actually the opposite. It's mankind trying to play God and re-write the laws of nature to benefit their "morality."

Mankind are not good or evil, we just are. We act based on our evolutionary impulses derived over a couple million years of evolution. The fact we can conceptualize good and evil and define morality is an amazing trait, but not everyone is going to share that morality because for example, a certain percentage of the population are born psychopaths, or with the drive to kill (not a fan of using TV series as example of life but everyone loves Dexter, the serial killer who kills other serial killers) .. why are crime dramas the most popular TV series out there? The real solution to the problems of our species will come from science and genetic engineering, in my opinion. That assumes you can trust the people doing the engineering, and trust those in charge to do it properly. We need to re-wire the DNA of our hardware programming first. Otherwise we have too many neurotic animal traits left within our genetic makeup. That or massive cultural brainwashing from birth in a sort of autocratic system where people are forced brainwashed with "utopian values" but good luck with that. That or time, thousands of years more evolution, but with the way technology is progressing we are going to break this simulation before that happens. Overall I'd say you will never save everyone... the best you can hope for is a society that works best for the most individuals, which western society mostly does okay. I've often thought about visiting China and spending time there just to see how a supposedly better managed dictatorship functions. My exposure to China is limited to watching "The China Show" and then watching people like "Because I'm lizzy" who show the positive side. Autocracy is really leadership dependent more than other systems, and they can't be a stage green because as morally nice as greens are, a society run by them would collapse. Green values can't work in a vacuum. They violate the laws of nature. That aside, I agree with you... mankind is not inherently "good" ... then again no species acts out of "goodness" they do it because it benefits the propagation of their DNA in some way. "Good" can do this, but it doesn't mean everyone is programmed to do this. Nature is perfect balance to keep any one species from dominating, until humans came along that is. Nature is also full of suffering and competition along with death... it's everywhere if you care to look. It's amazing we've managed the level of self regulation that we have given how we used to behave even 50 years ago much less 150 when we'd move into an area and shoot every animal we saw. Progressives have done a good job making sure our base nature doesn't totally rape this planet, but even then that's because it's within our DNA to behave this way. Still have a ways to go because we still have a consumption driven society where central bankers want people to buy new things because economic activity is necessary to keep economic systems from imploding with all their unfunded liabilities (social security, paid maternity leave, "free" health care, etc) That said a lot of the geopolitical talk in this thread is outside my scope of understanding. It's all just our genetic programming acting itself out on the global stage. I asked the AI chatbot Gemini the other day whether an alien species would be compassionate and share our morality or not and got an interesting response I agreed with. Everyone here assumes morality is a trait inherit to life when it really isn't. Good thing interstellar travel is so difficult. I guess the creators/engineers of this video game knew what they were doing in that regard. Lots of different planets each inaccessible to one another in which we can try out a different "game" with infinite variety, infinite diversity, but not necessarily morality. Assuming an alcubierre drive is even possible, an alien species would probably have mastered their base impulses and genetic engineering before they ever had the ability to invent one and probably not go out with a goal to conquer other planets with sentient species, given how many planets they'd have to choose from that are uninhabited by sentient life. (99.9% of them)

My favorite video on nutrition is actually by this content creator who I originally thought was just kind of click baity but he actually puts out some quality content. Basically humans have been cooking our food for a very long time since we discovered fire so I'm going to pass on the raw food diet personally. The argument could be made that processed grains are mostly causing our health problems but as long as you aren't overweight and don't have blood sugar spikes even grains are healthy enough. Remember we evolved in scarcity and now we have a culture of abundance so rather than being starving trying to find food were all engorged in food with evolutionary impulses to eat and most of us weigh far more than we need to.

This is really where we should start our colonizing efforts before trying places like Mars or one of Jupiter's moons or something like that it's much closer and we can access the same water resources not to mention give ourselves some protection from the solar radiation due to the crater that's there which I guess is called Shackleton crater.

I mean this largely describes the western power structure today....they are wealthy as it is but its still not enough...we keep privatizing the gains and socializing the losses. These wars are just as much an excuse to print more money as anything. Our leaders rob the bank because our genetics.

When I think of it, I think of people who treat cops like asses, in order to try to prove a point and "exercise their rights" and then act surprised when the cops act like dicks in return. I get their point, but there's something called balance, and treating people like you would want to be treated. They should go to Mexico or South America and try that stuff and see how far they get. In the end we are all participants of the society in which we live...

it's a skill that needs cultivating... leo's had videos about sitting in a room doing nothing... very difficult to do when you are use to some impulsive habit. The hardest part is the first few days, but even then if you restart a habit you want to give up, you'll be addicted as though you never even quit. It's one of the reasons that it's hard to teach old dogs new tricks.

I still want them. Have to set goals and aggressively pursue with remaining time, so here we go. Feels like the right time. On another note, you need a 55,555th post celebration thread, Leo.

The book "atomic habits" ... like compounding interest, getting 1% better each day compounds over time and if you charted it out like a stock chart, what you'd see is more like a chart of the national debt... eventually your skill would grow exponentially, just like the money supply in fractional reserve debt based banking.

It's best to try replacing one habit with another... if you just create a vacuum you will have a hard time of it. Your brain will want to "do" something. I just realized how powerful open focus really is in cultivating the parasympathetic nervous system, so mastering going into that state of alpha brainwave dominance on demand will be something I will be doing as a skill, for starters. Then, maybe some guitar, and finding a wife. Shit that doesn't involve screens. Maybe I'll quit my job and start over somewhere else... I dunno.. it just feels like the right time.

I mean, prison inmates can get jacked on inmate food... actually lifting matters more than protein intake, but why not optimize the diet for max results? Protein tastes good, lean meat is easy to consume 50 grams of not counting whatever plant protein is eaten. I enjoy Sam's club canned chicken.. it's 80 grams of protein per can for 2.25 per can.. stupid cheap for what it is, and no nitrates added. I'd say creatine usage benefits lifting the most without actually doing things like taking testosterone or steroids. On another note, the signature in the post above mine is going to give me a seizure. LOL I love the Majora's mask reference though.

I like to pour 3% hydrogen peroxide in my ears while I sit and relax. 15 minutes each side. It's like ASMR without the headphones. That said, that otoscope looks pretty damn cool.

Greek Yogurt mixed with milled flaxseed.. good shit. Vanilla greek yogurt mixed with peanut butter powder. Equally good. --3 pounds of ground beef mixed with a can of black beans and a 6 ounce jar of tomato paste... add some onion powder and 50/50 salt or a packet of onion soup mix, make into patties, cook on the charcoal grill with applewood chunks. Burgers might have a tendency to fall apart but they are delicious and the tomato paste helps prevent formation of carcinogens while cooking. When cooking with a proper domed charcoal grill, there's no need to flip or even check them often as the smoke self regulates the internal temperature. Just move the burgers over the charcoal off the charcoal and put other patties there after around 20-25 minutes and cook another 20-25 minutes. Less is more when it comes to opening the lid and flipping. Don't overuse charcoal... it takes maybe 25-30 briquettes arranged in a square with 2-3 layers to do this. bottom layer 4x4 second layer 3x3 third layer 2x2. You don't need a massive pile wasting a bunch like so many do. --1 can of costco or sam's club canned chicken mixed with half mayo, half cream of mushroom soup, italian seasoning, milled flaxseed for omega 3's, bag of frozen peas cooked first, and a bit of mustard and pickle relish for taste along with 50/50 sodium potassium salt. Delicious on sandwiches with keto bread or by itself. I also add liquid sucralose to add sweetness to this and a number of other things I eat. --Cook a frozen turkey, enjoy sandwiches on keto bread, then make the carcass into a soup high in collagen by adding whatever ingredients like legumes, carrots, celery, or whatever. 50/50 sodium potassium salt for taste. You simmer the carcass first for a few hours around 195 degrees F and after it all falls apart, strain with a strainer, remove bones, reuse the stock and meat, and add the rest of the ingredients and simmer more for a few hours until your vegetables are soft. Just found Turkeys on clearance for 50 cents per lb at wal-mart yesterday, will be cooking a turkey tomorrow. --Meat and fish can be cooked sous vide to reduce carcinogens and dial in the level of doneness. Vacuum seal the items, put them in a food grade white bucket, and use something like an Anova Precision Cooker to dial in the right temperature. You can then sear the items with either cast iron or propane torch afterwards. Great for ribeyes which get done at 130 degrees for medium rare to medium. Just a couple of ways to make low carb healthy meals that I make with some regularity. Also eat a lot of frozen broccoli and mixed vegetables. Meat and vegetables. Low glycemic load diet. Reduced carbs. Next step is to find and marry a woman who can make good tossed salads and other low glycemic vegan meals to complement my meat preparation skills. No standard American diet of Pizza, Hamburger Helper, or Hot Pockets for me, much less donuts, pop tarts, box cereal, cake, etc, except as treats.

There's actually quite a number of his voters worried he is just as "bad" as the left at this point, as far as being totally corporate bought and out for himself and his corporate donor base, LOL. It's amusing to watch... like there's no political party to vote for in the United States that will save it and the only choice is to enjoy the decline. This is just a conspiracy forum though and not representative of average people. Actually the forum's owner is nothing like it's members and I suspect "Trinity" and Leo would get along. https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message5888322/pg1#109854810 I admit I'm just along for the ride... I don't have a high regard for either of these political parties nor the leadership that runs the west, much less any leadership on this planet at all. We need stage yellow leadership, not the leadership of lowly evolved monkeys (greens, oranges, blues, reds) not to come off as negative, lol. Few will listen, Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand, Understanding does not mean believe, Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do, Those who even know, how many will actually do ? And the rare ones who have done it....... Need not listen to you anymore.

There may be a deeper psychological or evolutionary reasoning behind why for example crime dramas are so popular on television, why 70% of TV series recommended to me by people are crime dramas where the moral relativism of dumping people at the train station gets praised by the masses... most humans have deep insecurities and are attracted towards individuals perceived to have conquered them, and power in general, in my opinion. Alpha/beta complex. It's why we invented "Gods" in the first place... the ultimate benevolent alpha male with rules for people to follow, where the punishment for breaking them is severe. In my opinion leadership in the west is becoming way too obvious that they are corrupt, and almost flaunt their corruption, and thus they put themselves in danger by doing so. It's how revolutions start. People see these extremely wealthy individuals or people in leadership positions create policies that are clearly sleazy, while the cost of housing has doubled compared to the baby boomer generation, it's just a recipe to stir resentment among the average person. I'm no fan of human nature and believe checks and balances are good, and we do have the second amendment here. On occasion you have leadership that isn't totally corrupt or unfit to be in charge, but history shows it doesn't tend to last for very long. Maybe this time it's different, due to our technology. In any case, I'll be fascinated to see what the rest of the decade brings, and beyond.

What about Gen Z? https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message5882836/pg1 41% are at least somewhat okay with what happened with the United Healthcare CEO being eliminated... but do they bring it on themselves because of their unmitigated greed? Is cultural rises and falls based on human nature just the inevitable outcome of our genetics? Out of control capitalism is destructive just as out of control socialism is destructive. In both circumstances the elites have no problem adapting to utilizing monopolies to police their hold on power. In the capitalist example they buy out smaller competitors and purchase politicians to ensure they remain in control as Microsoft and many others have done. In the socialist example the party elites and their corporate or national security allies use raw power to suppress any threat to the system.

When were they ever not behaving this way in the evolutionary history of our species? Who's to say what a person "should" behave like? Isn't it better to have freedom to express oneself than say be caught under an autocratic dystopian society where even facial expressions and emotional reactions are controlled by the state? Didn't we create a society so people could do exactly what they are doing today... finding their own path through life their own way? Do you think people should be socially conditioned to be polite and selfless and disregard their genetic nature? That takes control over people. What level of control we decide to implement over a society and human behavior will always be the subject open for debate depending on who you are talking too. Who decides what behavior is "correct" will tend to always change and you will never have a society that pleases everyone, nor can you expect people to simply "do the right thing" without rules telling them what "the right thing" actually is. If the society can please the majority while progressing our scientific understanding of this reality while generally providing people with a safe place to "find themselves" (as opposed to being drones in some autocratic collective) I would consider that a success.

It provides a fixed asset that can't be debased and they can't mine more of it out of the ground. The value it has is the value people are willing to pay for it. They print a lot of money globally and debase a lot of currencies. For some countries it's a really good choice compared to their native currencies.

Urine therapy, P&B Shakes, drinking sodium chlorite (MMS), drinking hydrogen peroxide, coffee enemas, liver flushes, colonics, making kefir using actual grains, alkaline diet.... I'm trying to think of every alternative medicine practice I stumbled across on curezone over the years. Didn't do all these but am aware of them. All my health problems were caused by my emotional/mental state and thoughts/programming from childhood. None of this stuff was going to work, and typically doesn't work for people into natural medicine. About the only things that do actually heal or have some effect are water and dry fasting, whether intermittent or extended. That and radical acceptance of what is... oh and friendship and laughter.... anything that activates the ventral vagal response, I mean real playfulness with others including touch.

Seems to me one can intellectually be at one level and animalistically at another. Meaning the intellectual understanding of a subject is not embodied by the emotional/animal state. One could be a highly intelligent person who is very self aware and perhaps a serial killer. Doesn't seem to me that people can fit into a single stage, and they tend to be a mixture of stages. Unless spiral dynamics specifically states that a stage yellow or higher must hold a higher emotional/moral state as a default and not be some emotionless psychopath, which around 5% of the population tend to be, higher in the top of the power structure (CEOs, billionaires) Green tends to be a bit naive to human nature and get used by lower stages. They don't know how to deal with lower stages other than trying to convert them, and getting upset when the converting doesn't take hold. The type of nation building and cultural conditioning they are trying to achieve is a decades long process, and is indeed a giant work in progress. People today lack patience and have limited attention spans. They want everything done now.

Thank you for saying it in a way I tried to figure out how too, op. What you're describing is simply stage green thinking. All tier one stages want to convert each other to their stage. I respect Leo and this group here, so I'm genuinely interested to see how the next 4+ years play out, to see if it ends up as bad as everyone here thinks.

And you think all this would have been avoided had we voted for democrats?

There are various books on the idea that stress and bad thinking themselves cause most body issues that are chronic in nature such as GERD, IBS, Fibromyalga, etc. Open Focus brain, The power of Now, Letting Go and Healing and Recovery (David Hawkins), Your Survival Instinct is Killing you, and of course Joe's Books such as "Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself" all books that revolve around the theme that mindfulness (sitting in a room, doing nothing) will help heal the nervous system through activating the ventral vagal system. But really you need more than just mindfulness, but playful socialization. Being playful. Having Friends. Introverts are at a disadvantage in this regard due to our genetic makeup. NOT having a bunch of built up trauma in the body due to the past life circumstances, and learning how to release it if you do, through radical acceptance, forgiveness, recontextualization. This is all personal development 101 stuff but much harder to implement than intellectually understand due to our complex brain and our built in leftover animal driven cravings, urges, compulsions that we have to deal with.

There can be different "levels" of truth depending on your spiral dynamics level. In the end it comes down to giving the people the choice to live how they want versus trying to micromanage their lives for their own good. Each "side" does this to some degree. Each side has things they think we should and should not do for the good of ourselves, society, or whatever. I would argue there is no "problem" to deal with. People can develop at their own pace. It's nobody's job to force some universal truth on people that they must follow, though all tier 1 stages would have you believe otherwise, including the greens. I would argue that science comes closest to objective truth in this "reality" because it can be measured and quantified and proven. I would make the argument greens are too naive to human nature and prone to getting taken advantage of by stages below them. How to deal with the problem? Respect democracy, keep voting, and accept election results... all sides should do this. Ditch social media, stop watching any "news" whether it's right or left leaning, because there is always bias. Try to be the best version of yourself and be an independent, functioning member of society without the need for government to make things all "fair" for you, because life is not, and will never be, totally fair. Question everything. Use common sense. Respect other people's beliefs instead of trying to moral shame them or nag to them that they are voting wrong and idiots for doing so.