Mussi

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  1. @Ibn Sina I get the feeling you are not neccesarily trying to find solutions to the questions/issues your original post raised, but rather are looking to endlessly debate people in an attempt to try to prove some kind of intellectual / spiritual / philosophical superiority. I could however be wrong, so here's a last attempt on my end: If this is the case, then I don't think you should have such a strong need to find your herd. Just be you. No need to stress about it so much. You will or you wont one day find a herd you like. If you do great, if you dont, but you like your own company, also great. Don't worry so much about others. Why would you feel the need to hide your love for philosophy? Whether or not other people love it should not stop you from showing your love for it. Embrace who you are no matter what others think of it. It is definitely not easy to find many common interests with all people. First off: You don't need to. If hanging out with certain people makes you more unhappy than happy, then you shouldn't feel forced to keep hanging out with them. Second: Those statements you made about the realisations that hanging out with such groups have in teh past given you about yourself indicate that it does have the beneficial aspect of teaching you more about yourself. However if you find that there's nothing more to learn from a group of people, and you don't enjoy their company, then just let them go. There are plenty of other people on this planet, unless you live in a very isolated area you can surely find some people that still have something positive to offer you. If not, then there's always the internet.
  2. @Ibn Sina, may I ask how old you are? In my experience when you are still young you are far more uncomfortable feeling 'different' or 'lonely' than when you get older. If indeed you are still young (teenager or early to mid- twenties) then I would just advice you to find the things that you do have in common with people and focus on them. Whatever you find you do not have in common is a great teaching tool for yourself, because it is by comparison with others that we most easily come to understand who we are as an individual. If you are older, then I would suggest to spend some time on your own, as long as you think you can handle to begin with, and increase the amount of time over time. When you feel ready, go on a holiday all by yourself. You will find that whilst you will still enjoy company, you will prefer your own company over 'bad' company. And try not to look down on people who are different than you or who exhibit behaviours that you may not approve of. Just observe and enjoy the lessons, the emotions and the insights you gain from the experience of being aroud others, whether or not they are likeminded. @dude Great quote. Thanks for sharing!
  3. Even that statement is a partial perspective. Once you realize that the idea that nothing is absolute, even the statement that nothing is absolute, and you can begin to wrap your head around this and accept this aspect of reality 2nd tier (yellow & turqoise) is in sight. There are a few free online self testing resources out there which can help you determine where you are at. But honest self examinationand a good study of the different levels can do the trick as well and you will come out having learned much more plus having a vague idea of what is ahead of you in terms of self development. Here are a few places you can do a small self test: http://www.jobeq.com/vsq.php This self test is great, but it is in Dutch, so not useful for most: https://www.proprofs.com/quiz-school/personality/quizshow.php?title=NjQ2NTc3&q=1 This test gives you an idea of your knowledge about Spiral dynamics: https://survey.valuematch.net/500003 A few statements have been made on what the blue stage represents. In my opinion a typical Christian absolutist good vs bad point of view is only an indicator of the blue state if this is the prevalent point of reference in the context where you grew up. You can be an atheist or even agnostic and be in te blue stage as well if that is the prevalent way of thinking where you grew up. For example a child growing up in an atheist academic family who embraces scientific facts as the only reality, believing that people who believe in only what can be proven are smart and religious people are stupid may be just as 'blue' as a christian growing up in a fundamental Christian society or a kid growing up in a Muslim family who believe that following their religion is good, and believeing anything else is bad. What I'm trying to say is that Spiral Dynamics should be able to be used across countries and cultures regardless of cultural bias.