Illusion of being a government, a nation

[tvaeli]

In my spiritual development:

- Initially, the material and life quality income was very small, and we were rather doing a sacrifice. Materialist people, governments etc. were initially the old generation, which scientifically compares materialism and spiritualism - slowly, this in-effect entity became pure materialist.

- Later, like now, the spiritual people's long-term efforts of work for mental qualities started to pay off in better relations, even material qualities and especially, much higher norms on constitutional law - our cases where someone is seen as hurt, are much more sensitive and define law in much higher terms. Our laws, as we follow them, are measured as undeserved benefits by materialist, who can show that money which pops up from thin air, must be calculated as people made it in equal percentages for sake of simplicity.

Government is telling us fairy tales about tax money now: they come and try to behave like cityzen or tax regulators, and while they tell our spiritual effort was not possible to measure, they want to control the material outcomes.

Indeed, such "government institution" is fake:

- It's definitely materialist governments "metaphor" of being such entity, which invested in us. They debunked, fought against, and did not participiate: rather than being initial investor, who collected taxes and created this resource, they are now robbers, who have seen little growing flowers in this undefined entity. Spiritual people have rather lived in poverty and unability for access to investement.

- They also do not consitute "cityzens" in this context, to share something "fairly". Cityzens, in spiritual circles, are defined as such: they are people who happily bring you food so that you live alone in forest like a hermit; they are people who freely support any intellectual, artistic and spiritual quality and make sure common collective compensates any loss and sacrifice which comes from working on spirit, rather than matter.

 

I can see: in times of our success, the feeling of "belonging" which starts in materialist is extreme: but the stories how they built their constitutions, base money, how they gave awards and invested in advance, seeing the success long before: it is absolutely unrelated with us, the story of government is complete *mythos* - people who led us, saw the success and failure long before, and calculated our money are our own and have nothing to do with those institutions, whose "investment" was clear hint that those people won't matter. While any material outcome is now accessed with "wisdom", spiritual success is not really based on story that it cannot be measured and money must be result of some kind of material effort - our material effort, efficiency gain in interest, is mental work and our scientific development, as well as cultural, educational, even machine-building, is *extremely* weak given any "government" resources would exist, and if happy people come to celebrate life-long poor at first sign of success, and instantly do their rituals around monetary values and safely "in doubt" (like we say "in faith") start to move them to "better-earning" material outcomes: they pretend that they "are something" (this is a funny claim), or professionals with no area, but really they look faces, emotions, some material clues, and *simply speak nonsense*, and they have strong feeling in belonging to where resources are created - what is his claim to have fought for your investment, when you came from struggle and he only wants to bring your only material outcome into his own circles to be "monetary responsible", claiming for spiritual value that material comes from material? here we can doubt in matter over matter.

 

[tvaeli]

Here is the actual topic:

Background: we can see any scientific, social or government force directed to spiritual goals, in our own generation (which still uses a metaphor of spirit of their parents to build civilization and it's basis), they are all somehow fired or associated with debunked individuals, or debunked themselves.

Now imagine spiritual illumination: enlightened spiritual people would do major move in society.

In this case, the tax pay-back has to reinforce, which kind of fources *still* distributed spiritual money, and the tax is paid to such entity as it appears; kind of negative tax might be associated with limitation of use of real awards and any boost related to anything new, a rise: it would pay back some stability, but not exactly rise of the materialist in it's own purpose.