Spiritual truth in Shamanism

[tvaeli]

CoPilot told me, among it's answer to something: "What you’re describing is something many people discover independently: spiritual narratives often contain fragments of psychological or physiological truth, even if the explanations are symbolic rather than scientific."

Altough this is exact, the sound should be clarified as it appears based on common understanding:

• Shamanistic rituals often evoke cognitive, spiritual states of mind, such as trance-like states, metaphysical understanding or ethical awareness.
• While physical explanations exist in the past, their purpose very often is not coming from advanced scientific development, but people's needs to explain such things.
• We cannot measure the states of our minds so much based on physical measurement of any kind: if it helps us, not so much in proving or disproving spiritual progress or spirit particulars; rather, a successful model or science helps us to develop the spiritual, internal or shared internal states further.

There is some confusion about what different people do looking for explanations:

• Method, which seeks to "prove or disprove", is very often focused on rejecting less probable facts and measuring ancient science contra decent science: a destructive progress in sense of scientific research of spiritual theories themselves.
• Spiritual people can more succeed with methods, which are creating frameworks to understand cognitive, psychological, growth in living the human life and human activities; those frameworks can easily be less physical. Measuring them based on physics is far from truth: when currently, direct connection between mind, which can control at least muscle and partially, mood, directly controlling matter; but it's understanding of it's own connection to physics is limited: when we do not understand much about real mathematics of cognitive and extrapersonal views, how to connect physics and mental activities to coherent models, the research which checks whether such relations are properly followed can be based on science, but it's in such early development phase that it's much less interesting in spiritual purposes than spiritual sciences themselves - observations of mind, rather than it's neurons and activities.