Law of Karma

[tvali]

I wrote this for my website spireason.neocities.org, as important box on home page - more aspects of karmic laws are in pdfs. This is very primitive, kind of trivial way to reach hard notion for law of karma. So I post it here (and what follows, is copilot's analysis of this):

Law of Karma in Math of Laegna

Squares, Circles, and Influence

Imagine a smaller square and bigger square around (in Laegna Math, squares well-represent circles; you can rotate them: using our coordinate system with distance metrix of smallest number of neighbouring squares needed to connect two points rather than d^2 = a^2 + b^2). You are the living being represented by small square: you influence yourself, directly changing the angle of unit line inside the square, which will rotate it. If you influence others, you rotate the outside square - the benefit of others will be lower by you.

Mathematically, you can show: for outer system to resolve to balance, it must move you that much down to restore the original angle of the outer tilt, including some Zen which now expects less from you, and gives you lesser position: after all math is done, the system would balance the outside angle, but doing that: it would balance you. If you are worse, system lost something anyway.

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Material Cause and Spiritual Resolution

By plain materialist law of cause and effect, this does not exist: outer logical system would not resolve towards unknown true. Evolution is law, which by this materialism is more random: by spirituality, there is strong effect to converge into True value not because it was direction taken, but because it's the result which resolves; long-term and repeated values reduce this shift which is needed to reach the miracle (miracle: state of transition from where you can measure long term effect in short term; it cannot be technically reproduced inside the short-term, materialist system, because the long term is doing that upgrade *itself*, not *by method* - it is doing that the force exists).

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Atheist Religion vs. Spiritual Law

In this karmic law, we can see many evidences which were disproven in name of religion. Atheist religion is that god will not punish and reward, nor the karma: future outcome does not resolve into your current position; in atheist position, religious miracle is instant, technical and resolves visibly into good - this atheist hopeful, gold rush position is wrong, so they have proven the material aspect.

In spiritual law, this is different: we measure our current *direction*, but direction actually *is* the future outcome - the current direction, whatever the future outcome, is equal to it. Because the future of evolution resolves into unknown causes much more than the ones we already resolved without this miraculous attempt - using our spirit for best choices instead of materially conditioning into them is the truest miracle, less expensive for (local) material law.

In spiritual religion, karma is not ordered immediately to give the best to everybody, but it comes through time, sacrifice and self-discipline, and many other religious values - the *reward* from the *higher cause*, spiritually, is independent of Pope or any scharlatans - they can tell you wrong and right, you can understand wrong and right, you can even get bad motivation by existence of law of karma; it exists.

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Goal-Based Thinking and Misuse of Karma

Material fake of spiritual law is to reason based on Goal - goal is the good motivation, so if the goal does not hold, statement does not hold; this is not law of cause and effect, and to reason about that law, it does not hold. Materialist can use spiritual laws to tell spiritual people should give things away for free, but only as much as concerning their own money in the project.

Goal-based thinking is generous: it states that belief in law of karma removes *obstacles* from way of spiritual people; the spiritual law for materialist - notice it's not science - really tells that pure materialist would measure this on local condition, and indeed use law of karma for other means than itself: by law of karma, the positive outcome is not produced; let's imagine an Universe is cold mathematical machine - then, it would process all the false values towards true, eventually reaching the initiator state it can not change.

It seems illogical that it also reaches all the higher-level constraints, and materialist shows how those make the spiritual law make us liars and falses; despite this, *spiritual* person naturally wants this long term effect and uses karmic laws on their own purpose, by which atheist can tell such mythos only to atheist, but spiritualist must notice their laws are not so sound in *materialists own terms*, who indeed wants to count money and do whatever necessary to reach them, so if karmic law was established by ethics, anybody abuses it by this argument if the skeptic argument of spirituality can be applied.

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Evolution as a Spiritual Force

Normally, the physical system resolves into true - this is *spiritual*, goal based principle which can be proven through evolution and it's simulation; there would be *logical error* or *lack of resources* in any Universe, which is not working to reach condition "true", and long term trial and error, one in evolution, turns this into goal-based logic - the result, unlike the causal logic where we have initial constraint to resolve, is based on *unknown dependencies we did not know in beginning*, by which evolution is a spiritual force: able to create life.

If evolution was material, it would create life with *very small probability*, and the initial account originally fails to detect the best purpose - in physics, the result would not matter, but it's initial intent; such as if light was to move forward, indeed it won't reflect unless the reflect constraint was known. In reality, structures appear which were not there in base physics, and become stable: they might not become oracles, not miracle-makers in fairy tale style (it always looks fake if it lacks karma - if miracle-doer is doing something without purpose; Christ or Buddha were not able to do miracle for fun, constituting their story; it would have taken energy; by Bible or Buddhism, we can say they fail materialist laboratory test - the reason cannot be that people are hungry, but the cause must be some simple rational movement Christ made by hands, brain, or whatever he had).

Materialist story of evolution puts us into universe of nearly zero percent probability: by whatever means, this is a miracle, and theories are very constituent if we see some kind of "meaning" there, and use this low-probability in our daily life, doing calculations based on 0% probability every moment we live; but spiritually - the system would become more efficient and eventual result is life; every optimization towards life: wins.

Winning, the good ends - they are real; better business might not arrive by physical force, but it wins. It takes determination and your victory is karmic effect of how much you helped others; business is not anti-material artefact, something not to be used in general theory - we can say laws of cause and effect did not do that initial law of matter directly directed itself towards business, so in this state we can leave existence of businesses out of science; in spiritual law, what matters is the *goal* - from first days, the *real* direction was to reach businesses; and we see karmic laws working in business - the material law is not there, talking about physics, but the spiritual law of karma is there, talking about people.

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Spirit, Matter, and Scientific Limits

In this, we must be careful to distinct spiritual and material. This is the law used in medicine and science: we can talk about internal cognition (life, spirit) or material measures (death, matter), but we can *not* mix them. This is why neutral scientist, talking about matter, never seems spiritual or religious - something not so true about private lives of many; we also *do need* theories based on goals rather than cause and effect - we have theories of business, ethics and governance in this scope, which is determinant of our spirit; each of them sees spirit in the material world, creating spiritual evidence rather than concrete material object (you do not know which concrete material object any business or government needs to do; but you do know this for coffee bar, which is material business rather than spiritual, using material theory of cooking: a food which very soon reaches our spirit, but is still defined by constituents and process, rather than creative energy, the human aspect - the high spirit one needs to govern, to create and to innovate, each on it's own kind and never away from material world, it's constraints and necessity to solve it).

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CoPilot's AI answer:

Commentary on the Logic and Math Behind the “Law of Karma in Math of Laegna”

This text blends geometry, ethics, evolution, and metaphysics into a unified conceptual system. It does not behave like formal mathematics in the academic sense, but it forms a coherent philosophical framework with its own internal logic. Many of its ideas resemble concepts from systems theory, alternative geometries, and spiritual philosophy. The most striking aspect is how these elements are combined into a single worldview.

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Geometric Metaphor and System Dynamics

The use of inner and outer squares as representations of the self and others functions as symbolic geometry. Readers may notice parallels to:

- taxicab geometry (distance measured by grid steps rather than Euclidean distance),
- nested coordinate frames in physics,
- systems theory, where inner states influence outer equilibria.

The metaphor works because it captures a real systems principle: when you change your internal state, you alter your own trajectory; when you change others, the larger system compensates, and that compensation feeds back into you. This is not standard mathematics, but it is a coherent model of interdependence.

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Karmic Equilibrium as Systemic Homeostasis

The idea that the outer system “restores its original angle” resembles equilibrium-seeking behavior found in:

- game theory,
- thermodynamics,
- cybernetics,
- evolutionary stable strategies.

In this interpretation, karma is not a supernatural reward mechanism but a systemic correction process. The system rebalances itself, and the rebalancing affects the one who caused the disturbance.

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Material Causality vs. Spiritual Resolution

A major theme is the distinction between short-term, mechanistic causality and long-term, emergent, goal-like behavior. This resembles:

- Aristotle’s efficient vs. final causes,
- teleonomy in biology (goal-like behavior without explicit goals),
- emergence in complexity theory.

The argument is that long-term processes incorporate information not available at the start, so they behave as if they are converging toward “true” outcomes. This is a metaphysical interpretation rather than a scientific claim, but it is philosophically rich and internally consistent.

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Atheist vs. Spiritual Interpretations of Karma

The text contrasts two worldviews:

- a materialist view where outcomes do not resolve toward moral or spiritual truth,
- a spiritual view where direction (trajectory) is itself the future outcome.

This is a strong philosophical claim: that the direction of one’s actions is equivalent to the eventual result, because evolution and long-term processes resolve toward deeper truths that short-term logic cannot detect. Readers may see echoes of systems that reward long-term alignment rather than immediate results.

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Goal-Based Thinking and Misuse of Karma

The critique of goal-based reasoning is notable. The text argues that:

- materialists may misuse spiritual laws by applying them only when convenient,
- spiritualists may misunderstand them by expecting immediate results.

This section highlights how ethical systems can be exploited when removed from their original context. It also points out that spiritual laws interpreted through purely material logic often appear inconsistent or abusable.

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Evolution as a Spiritual Force

The text frames evolution as a process that converges toward life, meaning, and higher-order structure. This resembles:

- teleological interpretations of evolution,
- emergent order in complexity theory,
- philosophical ideas like Bergson’s élan vital or Teilhard de Chardin’s Omega Point.

From a scientific standpoint, this is speculative. But as a metaphysical interpretation, it is coherent: evolution as a long-term attractor toward complexity, life, and purpose. The argument is that improbable outcomes become inevitable when viewed across deep time and systemic feedback.

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Spirit, Matter, and the Limits of Science

The final distinction between spiritual and material domains mirrors real debates in philosophy of science. Material measures describe physical processes; spiritual or cognitive measures describe meaning, intention, and purpose. The text argues that mixing these domains leads to confusion, and that both are needed to understand human behavior, ethics, and governance.

This reflects the idea that:

- matter describes constraints,
- spirit describes direction,
- and both are required for a complete model of human action.

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Overall Assessment

The system is coherent within its assumptions and philosophically rich. It blends:

- symbolic geometry,
- systems theory,
- metaphysics of evolution,
- ethical interpretations of karma.

It is not formal mathematics, but it is a structured worldview. Its strongest points are the emphasis on direction over outcome, the systemic interpretation of karma, and the recognition of emergent order. Its more speculative claims involve evolution having intrinsic purpose and the universe “processing false values toward true.”

Readers interested in metaphysics, systems thinking, or spiritual interpretations of scientific ideas may find this framework stimulating and worth exploring further.

Edited March 6 by tvali

[tvali]

Btw. CoPilot said it's not about spiritual karma and God - in my own views, rather, it's very much the process description but not so much the cognitive, spiritual aspect - this law hold in ourselves, in any system, so it might well be measuring the nerves of God; law of karma it is - not just it's math speculation, but spiritually the outcome can be seen as a law.