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@Peo It’s not all of course, I’m not even generalizing though it’s the vast vast majority. I’ve read about “RBF” before but it’s like that X5 here. In my experience, you basically can’t have a platonic interaction with a Zoomer woman around here. It strictly falls in either of these 2 categories: 1. You attempt some innocent banter. She ignores it and signals for you to get lost, so you do that promptly. 70% 2. You attempt some innocent banter. She responds way, way too intensely and latches onto the interaction in a way that makes you uncomfortable, basically launching into flirting and skipping the platonic conversation, so you walk away. 30% It’s sad, it’s like the vast majority seem to hate men and openly resent men even talking to them. And then the small portion who DON’T hate men are so attention starved here that they literally physically light up when you talk to them, as if this normal human interaction completely caught them off guard.

@Basman Easier said than done. Depending on where you live, this can be almost impossible. I’m in the PNW and pretty much all Gen Z women here have truly the absolute worst vibes I’ve ever seen. This cannot be understated. Out in public, even at bars and cafes, I strictly only interact with men, or much older women, because both those groups actually aren’t guarded and they talk to me like I’m a person. Whenever I accidentally so much as make eye contact with a Gen Z woman (believe me, I would never do it on purpose) I almost always find they have a genuinely sinister glare they’re directing at me, like they’re communicating that they want to violently hurt me. It’s bizarre and a little frightening. I don’t know what this came from - maybe too much social media, maybe watching too much true crime or reading about male violence statistics for years - but whatever the case, why the hell would I want to talk to someone like that? I don’t, and I never will. I don’t even get that vibe from the craziest homeless people I’ve encountered in parks.

It’s simple: you don’t. Often I read “How are us young guys supposed to meet women these days?” “How come the apps don’t work?” etc. and all these people are missing the point. Until the moment you make a decent amount of money - roughly $270k per year - your pick of women is going to be next to nothing, and in any relationship you will be treated poorly anyway because she won’t respect you. American women in general are horribly immature and treat their partners badly - ESPECIALLY this generation of social media brainwashed, ultra-entitled Zoomer women who strictly date only men who can provide “an influencer lifestyle” - but if you are the sole reason she gets to eat and has a roof over her head, the backtalking and belittling will (mostly) be kept to a minimum. You have to have financial power over her, or she will walk all over you. So, if you’re a Zoomer college guy like me, how are you supposed to date? You don’t. At all. Doesn’t matter what you look like - I’m 6’ and muscular, I go to the gym a lot, people tell me I’m generally attractive. No women will notice you or want to date you until you have a nice car and a nice house or condo in the big city, it’s as simple as that. It has nothing to do with looks, and this is how it’s been for all human history. Women want the guys who have the resources. Dating in Gen Z, unless you’re from a rich family, is a distraction. Until the moment those big checks start depositing in your 30’s, trust me, don’t even bother.

@Princess Arabia I wish you were right but this is a super, super liberal area, which I represent and think is cool - so I constantly just get the vibe they generally hate most men and are cat ladies in training. But if you’re a guy with money, you’re the exception. I appreciate their intelligence but it’s an extremely negative atmosphere. I’ve seen a man approach a woman to ask for her number only one time in the last five years, and I go out to bars and coffee shops every week. It’s pretty much something that is shunned here because it’s viewed as creepy - which I whole heartedly agree with, and would never do - But going back to your comment, I wish it was that easy.

@Princess Arabia Yeah, I do live near a very rich city, that might be the problem. If you don’t meet the cut of visually having wealth, women act like you basically don’t exist here.

@Natasha Tori Maru I appreciate this take on it, that I’m being reductionist. That is a little true. But, you have to admit that overall I’m correct - this won’t GUARANTEE anything, but getting a lot of money improves any guy’s chances in dating 150%. That’s how the game works

@aurum This is true! Go outside and try to even talk to a girl right now. Unless you drive a Lambo up to the coffee shop, she’s going to ignore you and glare at you for even trying. Then, when you walk away she’ll report you to the front counter and you’ll get kicked out.

@Natasha Tori Maru I’m not terrified of women, I had several relationships a few years ago. But yeah, it’s not a limiting belief if it’s true - almost all women only value men for the money they provide. Which is a time-tested, winning approach to relationships in my opinion. I think women should work if they want in a long-term partnership, but they also go through so much physically and mentally if they possibly have a kid or two, there should be the option for them to quit work at any point and it wouldn’t make a difference. Growing up, I saw families who gave the wife this option, and those who didn’t. Pretty much all the former marriages survived while the latter ones exploded.

@aurum That’s a good point, I actually really like this strategy. Low stakes, feeling it out slowly over time. It still doesn’t solve the problem that almost all women today will not even interact with somebody unless they have visible status - nice car, artificially white teeth, expensive clothes etc. - but it is a good idea.

@Salvijus Not 1% but be honest, if you’re not in the top 10-15% income bracket you’re going to be treated like garbage in the relationship. Because that is the man’s purpose, is to bring in money.

@aurum You mean if dating is “impossible” before then. I agree, but if the self-deception has a positive outcome, it’s worth it.

@Natasha Tori Maru 1. I’m at the end of undergrad 2. 10 ish years from now, I will have a good-paying career which will allow me to enter the dating pool and pursue relationships I won’t entertain the idea of any connection with any woman before then because it is fruitless self-deception. Wasting both her time and mine. If all Gen Z men were rational they would do the same - it would save them years of frustration.

@Natasha Tori Maru I’m not though, almost everyone in this thread is agreeing with me.

@Salvijus That’s exactly what I’m talking about. Any lazy dope can sleep with a woman, that’s the easy part, it really doesn’t matter.

@Princess Arabia I would date any woman who is nice, intelligent, and secure in themselves. I don’t care about looks at all - typically older women are the only ones who talk to me like a human, and even flirt with me occasionally. The only number I got last year was from an older woman who showed interest in me while we were walking our dogs. Not only do women in my gen not show interest in me, they actively avoid any possible interaction. They don’t treat me like a human at all. They would if I drove a Porsche or wore an expensive-looking suit, I guarantee it.

@something_else $270k is the new six figures due to inflation, specifically in HCOL cities like Seattle and New York.

@Majed I don’t have any limiting beliefs about women. This is exactly what I have lived and observed all my life. Most women literally only care about a monetary amount, and how much of that they can get from you.

@Majed I’m not even talking about pick up or any of that, I’m talking about pursuing a genuine relationship and building that over time. Something our parents all did really easily - probably too easily. Whenever I meet a girl anywhere now, her first question is what my job is. Every time. And when I tell her I’m in college, she asks my major. And when I tell her my major is literature, she tunes out completely and stops talking to me. Like, fair enough, I’m on a challenging path. But I do have a solid career plan that is going to make me a lot of money after college. But they don’t even stick around long enough in the conversation to get that far, ever. Pretty much every time. They basically treat all of us like our worth as a person is directly only what is in our bank accounts, right now, today.

@Zenterus I’ve done that, I’ve had relationships with attractive women. This is what I’ve discovered. Haven’t dated in 6 years, gotta focus on my degree and earning more money. I don’t care if it takes 6 more years or 10 more. I’ll just date a 25 year old when I’m 35. All men can do this

I’m mid 20’s, becoming highly educated. I watched Leo’s video on this a few years ago and have watched it repeatedly, taken notes on it, really committed myself to implementing these lessons in my life. Leo suggests to “become a massive value provider” in society. My whole life I have been hugely passionate about filmmaking. And now that I have a decent level of education, I have gained major insights into how filmmaking works, things that really impress my professors and so on. I was dead set on providing massive value to society through films. But also through my education, I came to realize that literature actually provides far more value than films do, because literature is the raw component of what a film is made from. So for the last couple years I’ve been relentlessly studying all kinds of literature, breaking it down, trying to understand the essential elements so I can create it myself. I have been trying to convince myself to shift to this, because - following Leo’s advice - I want to create as much value as I can. But the problem is - I don’t enjoy the process of creating literature. I love the process of making a film, no matter what. Even if it’s literally just me in a room filming running water or something, I get this electric charge from it. It feels like I’m connecting with my actual authentic self, I get this rush that gives me a fearlessness. I’ve been guilt tripping myself about this, working to suppress it, because this passion is the “lesser” of these two things. And I’ve been trying to force making literature to become my passion for the last couple years instead of films, but it isn’t working. What should I do? Thanks.

@Letho Thanks man I didn’t reply to your previous one because honestly it was really long and I didn’t know what to respond to But I appreciate the support. I’m not Spielberg 2.0 but I’m more like the next Christopher Nolan, just in a different way. And yes you’re right about people replicating what I do, I have studied marketing as well, and honestly the competition copying my methods is the only thing that can save the quality of films being made, because right now the industry is in a death spiral I myself am basically replicating Nolan, so if this keeps spreading then everybody wins, including the public.

@Leo Gura of course man, you think I haven’t rehearsed it in my mind many times already

@Leo Gura I had a feeling about that, that maybe my long term performance could be stunted from not having as much passion for literature. Thank you as always Leo you’re absolutely the GOAT human.

@Basman Every movie is based on a story. It is just a creation to take away a lot of the thinking when engaging with the story, to make it a passive experience. What you said about that is correct The qualities that contribute to this - performance with actors, music, effects, camera technology and style - are all provided by the zeitgeist it the film is created in. Zeitgeists fade and are very quickly replaced by each other. Literature on the other hand ages incredibly slowly, with only the words themselves becoming outdated over the course of a few hundred or thousand years, which can be easily fixed with updated words or a total translation into a different language. That’s just a few reasons why literature provides a lot more value to society

@Basman I appreciate the feedback and I hope I don’t sound condescending but this is advanced stuff man you have to actually think about it Books are the same as a verbal story, it’s just recorded on paper. “Popular” is only because movies are a heavily diluted, immediately-comprehensible translation of a piece of literature that DOES THE THINKING FOR YOU in experiencing a story. That’s what movies and stage plays do. It also allows multiple people to experience it at once, while literature is individual