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@Birdcage You mentioned a few points. I try to address your question about purpose. For other questions, please refer to Leo's videos. I attached two of them. The whole purpose is that your actual "being" exists for itself. In other words, "you exist that you exist". The only way something has meaning is in relation to something else. If we ask "what does an apple mean" or "what is the purpose of an apple", we cannot answer these questions unless we are referring to something other than the existence of apple. In other word, an apple doesn't have any purpose. It is just being an apple. Therefore, "being" has not meaning. This is because "being" is the only thing that exists. It just exists. Therefore, there is not inherent meaning or purpose. The universe is inherently free of meaning and purpose. Your being exists as itself, for itself. The rest is secondary. Refer to the book of not knowing Chapter 19 if you want to get more info. Also, notice that separation is what creates the whole notion of purpose and meaning. As soon as we close the gap, between ourselves and reality, we realize that the only purpose is that "you exist that you exist".
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@Birdcage Yes. You can read the Surrender experiment by Michael A. Singer. I think this book is a very good place to start.
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@Birdcage Here is the way I understand the notion of action. We are very attached to an illusory self. Thus, We think that our source of action is self. However, it's just an illusory since self that we created, through identification process, is illusory. When we let go of this self, we experience being (true nature). Then, we realize that the source of "action" is being. It seems to me that there is no action when you experience being (your true nature). In this case, everything happens and you only experience life as it is because when you do not identify yourself with anything you become the whole reality as it is.
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Hi, I have been thinking about the concept of surrendering and it's connection with action over the last few weeks. I came up with two different perspectives as follows: 1. Let go and go with the flow, trust life, and fully experience what life brings. In this view point, the life/universe is what we surrender to. We listen to universe and our awareness from life tells us what we need to do. Our job is listening what to do. THE SURRENDER EXPERIMENT by Michael Signer is a really good book that explains this concept. 2. In the second viewpoint, you are not merely a force of life, but you yourself brings something to the world. You are playing a game with your higher being. Thus, you have to throw a ball to universe so the universe can throw a ball back. I found this video from Teal swan to explain this What do you think about these two viewpoints ? And, what do you think about the connection between action and surrendering? Thanks!
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@Davie It seems that he is confused. He thinks that life is only limited to success, advancement, innovation, progress, civilization, morality, empire, science, Nobel Prize, technology, etc. He inherently values these aspects of life. And, I agree that all of them can be achieved externally. However, note that all of our disasters like war, terrorism, etc also come from this type of thinking. As pascal pointed out "All human evil comes from a single cause, man's inability to sit still in a room." Contemplate the notion that there may be something beyond all of these in life something beyond civilization, advancement, etc. And, that is to know yourself, and it comes only internally. By the way, there is nothing wrong with external benefits like success, advancement, etc, but it is secondary at best. -
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@WelcometoReality @Svartsaft There is no action here. It only happens! Thank you guys -
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@Svartsaft hehe. Good metaphor! I'll give it a shot -
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@cetus56 @kurt It is now much more clear. "I" have still long way to fully realize. Thank you both ! -
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@cetus56 Got it! How does then enlightened people TAKE ACTION? Do they just follow the flow of universe through their higher awareness? -
Greeting from Seattle. But I was originally born in Iran
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I've been struggling with a similar question for a while and have not yet reached to a conclusion. What is the source of our motivation (passion), if any, to move in a so called ‘right’ or ‘enlightened’ direction?.