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@Inliytened1 Yeah, thanks, Well its a whole wave of people getting caught up in this phase, afraid of letting it all go, that misses creations point entirely, to be lived, experienced, embraced, enjoyed. I have nothing against anyone, I am only trying to help them see, and all i can do is trust these seeds shall sprout, and hopefully they too can see that its all unconditional love... Yes @Natasha Tori Maru Life is a trinity, its the 1 + 1 = 3 / duality / non-duality > merge as one = trinity Man + Woman = Child = LIFE ect...

This video sums it up pretty well. They are stuck in one side of the coin, neutral, suspended animation, no life or aura to them, empty, yet refused to be filled again, because they are convinced "this is it" when it reality, its only part-of it, there's more, that's Buddha's middle way. Realize you are God, but don't get stuck up there, cause you are Human too.

Exactly my point, dead-statements, no substance, empty, void, lifeless. What I share is (the middle way). A little further down the road... That life ought to be "lived" cause that's what being "alive" is all about, not merely conceptualized and observed. You can remain as the "observer" and point out truths all you want, if you don't live, you remain a ghost in a shell.

@James123 Pretty much same thing as what I said with a different twist on it. I would caution what you pickup from Nahm's forum. That has no true-ground unto which can actually help anyone. If you care about life and being alive and living a rich and quality life, you may need to drop all that stuff too. Keep it simple my friend, don't over-think it.

Its possible (because consciousness creates reality, creates the body, form, drug you are taking ect...) all is "within" consciousness, so consciousness or self is primary, everything else is secondary. But at the same time these experneces are more (end-game) experiences or NDE when they happen due to extreme life situations or profound suffering. Meditation is more of a gradual realignment with self / truth / true nature. In my experience, the more enlightened you are, the less you chase or seek these experiences, because they only trigger the nervous system more in un-natural way thus can push you even further away from simply being. They are useful tools, but less becomes more eventually.

Well not entirely true, consciousness (creates the reality, body, focal-point) thus it can "experience" itself through separation. So saying experiences "belongs" to the body is not entirely accurate.

Spiritually or ethically — whatever you want to call it — am I actually allowed to end this? We cannot possibly answer that for you. Is suicide an actual escape from this nightmare, or is it just more pain somewhere else? No there's no escape, you will only have to go through the same lessons in the next life until you evolve past that point. So think of it this way, you could be repeating the same pattern for thousands of lifetimes unknowingly. Let nature take its course, if the world becomes too much, you can always wander into the forest or live off-grid and never look back. There are many better options out there. There are billionaires who have done this (let all their material go) and are living much happier lives. I've been through hell and back several times in my life, it ultimately comes down to peace of mind. I realized since i was young that our human spirit was never designed for the world we live in today, especially the modern (artificial world), so to speak, rather its a distortion or disease within consciousness, that's how i've always seen it at least. Your role is to decide what works best for you and follow / live that way. Because man-made laws and rules are there, but they are not universal truths or laws, so there are always ways around that system (without violating its laws / rules) but you'll have to live and train yourself to live quite a different life than you've been brought up with. Its hard but pays off eventually. Give it another 5 - 10 years, the whole modernized world will likely crumble under its own core-rupted-ness.

Interesting but nice addition, I like to say wisdom is knowledge integrated and applied may you have a grand day.

I wish to share a little story with you about this entire journey most of us are on... I will start with my own to make the connection. Every since i was born I intuitively felt something was quite off about this world, growing up in a western way of life, everyone seemed very disconnected from what truly is, disconnected from the natural being or true self or nature of who we truly are, but I could never clearly make sense of it all until my 21st birthday. I had my reawakening back around 2011, this was even before stronger plant-medicines came into my life, and I am very grateful I realized who I truly was before I jumped onto the other trains, for I had my true-ground or source-within or center to revert back to, that I am never shaken by these experiences or the mystica of substances and neo-spirituality, for they only tickle and enchant the mind that does not know, rather "thinks" it knows, especially after an experience or trip, yet the true self (which does not trip or hallucinate, which is awareness itself) remains untouched and phased. And its been quite wild ever since, and one of the biggest lessons for me and for many I am noticing (especially those who glimpse enlightenment prematurely) mostly through substance abuse, is that there is a severe lack of grounding or connection / understanding of the earth, rather purely working from a mentally internalized perspective and projection of consciousness, which speaks the truth conceptually, yet fails to land in the hearts of men, for it has no (true-ground) from which its roots have developed to be reverberated effectively and recognized as true wisdom. I see a lot of energy today is being pushed, especially (online) keeping people away from the Earth or Mother aspect, so they put more energy into the (artificiality) or online world, or the religious "Father" or "God" who is invisible and never to be reached, and thus they are met with half-baked enlightenment or astral / mental bliss, caught in a never-ending cycle, that is toxic to themselves and others around them, (that many of us can see now, especially on these forums) for they are illuminated only through the mind, and not awakened through the heart. They remain un-grounded and never truly accessing heart-centered awareness and being fully with the people and life on earth, to be truly of service and using our entire bodies more so than just our minds, and so they remain quite distant and disconnected from being with body and truly feeling what it is to be truly alive and experience life in its very essence here on this beautiful earth. They spend far more time online and disconnected from the natural world, and thus almost completely disembodying and contradicting what they preach. At the same time it is not anyone's fault, its just that they have never touched upon a taste of the divine in other ways, so when they touch upon it or glimpse through one way, they are convinced that "this is it", when in reality, it is only partly it. Rather it is one side of a three-sided coin, the third being the merge of the opposing two. These last 10 - 15 years I have been exploring the earth and body more, all over the world, before that I was exploring the mind and higher realms, and what i have learned is that neither is the full picture, yet the merge of the two is what Enlightenment truly is, for Awakening is the opening, seeing, recognizing, and Enlightenment is the embodying, rooting, stabilizing, being. I realized that there are also those, especially in the native and indigenous cultures who can also be (too earthly) and not open to a higher light or true due to eons of tradition, culture and rigid beliefs, that what the Buddha taught as (the middle way) was the very Tao or Truth or Way in a nutshell. It always comes back to balance, and when you are in total balance in all aspects of self, supreme beingness can be. I realized something observing children especially, and how they connected and meditated, was interesting because it reminds me of when I was a child too and what happens during intense experiences or states where everything becomes overwhelming, we naturally revert back down to the ground, (think of when we are sick, or drunk or too high), the body naturally knows what to do. And this goes back to ancient times were people were found often lying down on their backs by a tree or in the bushes somewhere, with hands and feet spread apart, almost like a star or a cross, and that is how they connected to God or "the Father", so to speak... They intuitively knew only through (the Mother) the connection will be stable, grounded and secure. If we deny the Mother (the earth), we deny the very medium that allows the Father to be known. In essence, you cannot reach the Father without the Mother. The Divine is immanent in the earth and body; we experience God through life, matter, and presence. And this is the issue with modern spirituality and neo-non-duality and the words and teachings people are sharing online, they are missing the full picture. Remember what is natural is home, god-thought materialized, divine or infinite intelligence, what is artificial is borrowed and secondary, a tool. We built temples to connect-with-god not realizing the very temple of nature itself God had already provided, then we wondered why we felt disconnected and struggle to see, hear, feel God's presence and guidance. And this is the very essence of Buddha and Christs teachings, but many have become distorted over-time by the hand of man. You can be in the most spectacular temple full of psychedelic artwork, gems, stones, incense and chants and nothing will provide a more solid and divine connection as what nature already had since the beginning. You can try it yourself, go into a forest floor and lay there, compare that to some man-made place. In 5 minutes you can tap in deeper than 50 minutes in a room full of artificial walls and electronics / noises / discordant frequencies. Otherwise these things would of been created first, and life on earth would be supreme brilliance, garden of eden, paradise, not what it appears to be today. Now don't get me wrong, I know this can be triggering to those who rely on the artificial matrix and online world, more so then they'd like to admit, I have nothing against using a tool, but remember its a "tool" and remember that the tool needs to be put down every once in a while and look up, there's a whole world out there, more real and beautiful and alive than any tool ever created by man, the tools only tickle the mind, yet the hearts remain empty... These teachers may teach that the world is an illusion, but does that really give you peace? No, you see most of these people miserable, depressed and suicidal, because life is meant to be lived, not observed. If you are not (participating) in the world you are a dead-letter, you may see through the illusion but if you are not alive and "living"... See the illusion, but enjoy the play, because the play is whats truly alive, the essence of it, the experience of it, that's needed for a rich quality life. Its like looking at a rose saying "this rose is an illusion" rather the child smells the rose, feels the sensations, doesn't know that its to be labelled or called a rose, rather its simply being a natural extension of nature or divine intelligence itself, interacting with itself in a most intimate way, and that is what enlightenment truly is, to be intuitively aware of the Oneness, yet fully immersed in the experience of separateness. In a nutshell... Remember you are Nature and Nature is you, so its always both, its not one or the other. I woke up with the energy to share this, I trust it may spark something within you. Blessings ~

Overall what is vaped / smoked is going to be more (heady) mentally-natured (not always, but more often than so), than what is taken internally, because it goes through different bodily systems that results in different effects. This is especially known for Cannabis for example; when taken internally, it processes through the liver, not the lungs, thus the high is more mellow, less-mind, more (body-oriented), that lasts much longer and often more medicinal, psychedelic and better integrated, because there is less chance of habitual abuse because it can be such a strong experience. The shallow waters can be useful, at the same time more chance of being abused. It really depends on the individual and situation in life.

Gotta love the mind how it interacts with itself

Dear OP @Bashar Could you maybe express (in your own words) what this is all about in a nutshell? Not everyone wants to read a lengthy description of what the AI responded with without much of a backstory. What do "you" make of all of it and is there a main question, point or concern?

Your brother seems like a wise and grounded person, I would probably spend more time with him then asking people online.

As above, so below, as within so without, as the soul so the universe.

Why not just eat just fruit and vegetables for a week or two, you will lose weight naturally and return to your natural energized self. Or simply stop eating and fast on water for a week, you will lose 10 - 20+ lbs easy. Everyone's looking for a magic pill but no one wants to do the work.

Go to the shops once a week. Buy fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, rice and beans. How hard or complicated can it be? Your mind is making excuses now. If you are feeling great why would you change? keep going.

The only thing that changed is that you went from thinking more and being more mentally-oriented (overthinking, caught up in thought-loops) to feeling more, being more in the body, being more active and alive on earth (which keeps you present) and when you are present, the mind and its endless thoughts are not there to torment you, because that's what hell is, discordant thoughts. You need to "FEEL" things, the more you practice the art of "feeling" the more you will transform discordant thoughts. Life is not up there in lalaland, its here on earth, participate in the earthly realm and ground yourself, find something you love and use your whole body not just your mind, things will eventually balance out.

Sounds like something Leo would say Isn't that just a more intellectualized (mental framing) of what ancient wisdom has always called awakening, gnosis, or self-knowing? or simply to Know Thyself and live in accordance to your Truth? I guess for me this has always been a natural trait of being alive and awake, sober, conscious.

All, both, and none.

I would never pay for AI or online software when it can be sourced and used freely. There's already enough things we have to pay for in this life, what's next, we need to pay for thinking and breathing too? You need to know where to cross the line and say no to enslavement.

That's cool, I guess what I meant was, it would be nice to see more originality in these forums, and more of your own words and expression. I see people often posting all these videos but they themselves do not say much or explain much about it, rather passing on empty knowledge. And not everyone will be drawn to watch 20+ minute videos, most people want something short and simple explained well and effective. This way you introduce people and speak from experience and can drawn them in to what actually helped you.

He put himself out there, i merely responded with what felt natural to me. You make some silly comments you realize that, but thumbs up to you.

Hey All, dear reflections, or illusions... whatever floats thy boat... Lets be real here? I wish to share something I feel is important. I have been on and off the online world for many years now, often due to change of lifestyle, but other times due to how twisted and distorted the online spiritual and non-dual community has become, like a bunch of overgrown weeds entangled in their own mess, no offense, but we need to do some spiritual gardening. I see people on the path who are waking up, or may have been for some time, but often are struggling to ground and integrate and stabilize the energy into form, into a practice, into a balance of discipline and flow, so they seek help online, which often is met by very ungrounded energies, otherworldly and non-supportive responses, that only speak in 'absolutes', especially the neo-non-dualists, and especially on these types of forums. What people need is something tangible, something they can touch, feel, taste, smell and connect to, like a tree, or an animal, something more "alive" than these non-dualist/neo-spiritual purely conceptual responses of 'absolutes', to assist in the stabilization of the enlightened~energy, into the earth, into the (human experience), into the form(yes illusion, we know), because this is simply the dance we are playing right now, so why deny it altogether? At the end of the day, even the illusion is (part-of) the Truth, otherwise why not be silent altogether, why are you online on these forums at all? You are partaking in the dance shouting: "there is no dance", the life of the party you are ! Now lets get down to the main issues. Here are some of the things I have been observing and seeing. The Main Problems in Modern Neo-Spirituality / Non-Duality Mental Awakening Without Embodiment People talk about oneness, emptiness, or "no-self", but their body, emotions, and relationships remain untouched. Awakening becomes an "idea" instead of a lived truth. Core issue: Mental realization without somatic integration. Result: dissociation dressed as enlightenment, subtle validation-seeking, and reactivity. Spiritual Bypass & Emotional Evasion Philosophy becomes a shield against pain, trauma, or personal responsibility. Instead of meeting grief, fear, or conflict, one declares, "Who is there to feel it?" Core issue: Using emptiness to avoid Embodiment. Result: Emotional numbness, loss of empathy, and disconnection from real tenderness. Ego Rebranding as "No One" The ego doesn’t die; it dresses itself in void-talk: "I am no one, and I see that." Subtly, pride, superiority, and defensiveness remain. Core issue: identification with the role of "the awakened one." Result: Spiritual arrogance, hierarchy, and inability to self-reflect. Disembodiment & Aversion to the Human Story True awakening roots deeply in body, relationships, and sensation. Many modern teachings ignore these, seeing humanity, individuality, and emotion as obstacles rather than expressions of consciousness. Core issue: Avoidance of lived human experience. Result: abstract, cold, and alienated realization. Parrot Syndrome & Language Loops Teachings are repeated without direct understanding. Phrases like "there is no self" are mimicked endlessly, echo chambers form, and language collapses communication. Core issue: Borrowed wisdom without integration. Result: shallow realization, circular arguments, and disconnection from others. Loss of Love, Heart, and Relationship Modern non-duality often sidelines compassion, intimacy, and humility, reducing reality to a flat, impersonal awareness. Core issue: Heartlessness in practice. Result: Truth becomes a blade; realization remains abstract. Commercialization & Loss of Lineage Spirituality is packaged, branded, and sold, often disconnected from ethics, guidance, and disciplined practice. Core issue: Profit-driven or ungrounded spiritual practice. Result: shallow realizations, psychological imbalance, and spiritual materialism. Devaluing the Relative World The absolute is pursued at the expense of form, relationships, creativity, and ethics. When the world is dismissed as a "dream," compassion dies. Core issue: splitting Absolute from Relative. Result: nihilism, alienation, and superiority complexes. Hyper-Identification With Emptiness Some reduce all experience to "illusion" or "projection", deny relational reality, or display defensive superiority as detachment. Core issue: Rigid conceptual reduction of life. Result: coldness, conceptual arrogance, and communication collapse. And so… such responses and conversations online often have no true ground, no place where realization has truly landed in being. We’ve all heard these things before. They often don’t help because they are ungrounded; they simply won’t land, as the teachers themselves haven’t landed back on earth. If you want something to land in the hearts of souls, you must first have stabilized and grounded what you are preaching. It must be in your very bones and essence, not just a mental realization or borrowed wisdom from what you heard or read online. The mind thinks it knows, yet understanding remains a mystery. The middle way is about integrating your humanity, being a friend who can relate, and offering support to all. Responses that only "perform" rather than "converse" come from void consciousness, where emptiness denies compassion. True teaching arises from embodied awareness, where emptiness and compassion coexist. Yes, ontologically, it is correct: there is no separate self; the world is an illusion. Yet existentially, it can be distorted if it ignores the lived reality of experience. If you truly want to help someone, put your hands, feet, and head on the ground first, remember the earth on which you stand. Real spirituality is not about transcending humanity; it is about sanctifying it. Awakening is not an escape from form; it is intimacy with form so complete that separation dissolves naturally. Enlightenment is about all-inclusiveness: you include the mosquito in your meditation, not try to meditate it away. Real Awakening flowers through the heart, not just the mind. When love and emptiness meet, truth finally breathes. And when emptiness flowers into love, the world is realized as the beloved.

He handled it perfectly with smiles, clearly the most intelligent person there, then again what do you expect from drunkards.

@Dodo Cool story bro, are you a cop? Yeah poor quality chess mate, most of the words were my own, just the way it was designed was assisted. You are in your own delusion playing chess with yourself pretending to be (AI Defense) Deputy Moderator Magnus Carlson. Wake up to yourself bud, talk a walk outside, breathe some fresh air, adopt a pet, you might learn something about life.