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Can it be described as an edge case, a specific type of cognition within the general category of "knowing": Gnostic-agnostism. "it's certainly unknown"? From another POV, same cognition, can it be described as "understanding" something without needing to "know" it deeply, intimately? The common example here is the relationship between two friendly neighbors. Feudal lords, for example. These two understand each other w/o knowing each other deeply, intimately, etc. This distinction between knowing and understanding can be found in the Bible where "knowing" is a euphemism: Adam knew Eve... ( chapter 4, verse 1, iir) ETA: RE: Understanding, see here: Lexicon Search for "Tevunah" - deep probing understanding

"sometimes" or even "often", but not "always" There are types of logic which encourage intellectual awe and heart-felt wonder ( simultaneously ). Unless I'm mistaken, that's the logic you're using. Whether or not the heart is being stifled depends on whether the cognition is expanding or contracting.

"When ownership ends....." ... like walking through the woods, smelling apple blossoms, and following its scent. "... including a thought ... " ... these are not my thoughts. "... a word ... " ... it is not my word. " ... love is all there is. " .. love is all there is. Agreed. Thank you.

This one is true. ... it's as close as close can be. The OT also has this teaching coming from Moses : " it is very close to you, in your mouth and in your heart ... ". Deut 30 This one, imo, needs attention. The first part is true, but the last part is not. 1) Allah is the one which is distinguishing this from that, for lack of better words. Referring back to the OT, Genesis 1, Allah is the one which is "dividing waters from waters". 2) Because of this, Allah is equally, consistently, completely, and simultaneously within-and-without the heavens, the earth, the believing-heart. - Allah is the one and only dividing heaven from earth and vice versa. - Allah is the one and only dividing believing-heart from disbelieving heart. ?? If so, James, How can it be rationally asserted that Allah is contained ?? ?? Allah is the one and only dividing between contained and released ??

Yes. It's odd isn't it? The realization is "lacking-loss" or "finding-everything-excluding-loss".

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=XtwTohlg1b4&si=WPJMWMoJnS-w0e12

~grinning and nodding~ Masculine love will knock you down. Feminine love will eat you alive. ~sigh~ ~blushing~

Healthy love is partnered with respect. Unhealthy love, lacking respect is obsession. Healthy love for others includes love for oneself. Unhealthy love for others, lacking love for oneself is fool-hardy and unsustainable. That's why the knight in shining armor in the storybooks is always riding off into the sunset after saving the town and the damsel from whatever it is that's threatening them.

~nods~ If it doesn't feel right, then, it's not the end.

No, you're not alone. It's a significant "let-down". Many refer to awakening as a "burden". A heavy burden. But, be assured if you keep going, consistently on any path, eventually it flips. Best wishes,

Genesis: -------------------------------------- . ורוח אלהים מרחפת על־פני המים׃... Ruach-Elohim ( the spirit of God ) fluttered upon the face of the "waters". -------------------------------------- IOW: it "tickled" ^^Enjoy^^

Answer: Because it "tickles" What is "tickling"? Consider it, follow the cognition to its root, from where it's blossoming. There you'll find a brilliant kernel of effervescent Truth.

Heard. Fair. May I inquire, most respectfully? Why did you laugh? What is laughing? Why does The Buddha ( the awakened ) laugh?

It's a culturally inculcated natural inclination. In other words, it's part of the human experience. Specifically, the midday nap designates one as a member of the governing institution, property owners, NOT labor. It's evident cross-culture and even cross-species. My favorite examples come from coupling behaviors in the animal kingdom. But looking only at human behavior, I think the best example comes from ancient Mesopotamia, the fertile crescent, where the feudal lords ate on couches, while the laborers were forced to eat while working in the fields. And from the opposing side, counter-intuitively, a wonderful example: the Latin American "siesta". Beyond that, and most important: ... Because it's 100% consistent with your own direct experience. It's consistent in general. It's consistent in particular. It's truly-true. Verily. Amen-Amen. Like the Book of John? In the Christian bible. That's what Jesus meant ( in the story ), when he said: "Amen-Amen". See below, if you're curious. Regardless it can be derived thru inquiry: "Decadent" matches your own direct experiences? "Decadent" matches the direct experience of others? "Decadent" is consistent with those direct experiences in general? "Decadent" is consistent with those direct experiences in particular? If so, I call on the heavens and the earth as witnesses... It's truly-true.

Midday naps are the definition of decadent. From a more sciency perspective: sleep is inherently linked to memory and learning. During sleep the psyche simultaneously processes and discards extraneous memories and retains significant details for recall, recollections, and reflection. If one is spending more time in REM sleep, at more frequent intervals, they are inevitably going to have a clearer conscience ( for lack of better words ). Maybe what you're observing are the fruits inherent with that clarity combined with your own personal development? Best guess.

https://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/underdogs-the-bloodhounds-amazing-sense-of-smell/350/ ^^ The amazing perceptive faculty of the bloodhound ^^ Not al all like a 8 year old child. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12203381/ ^^ The mysterious sense of smell: evolution, historical perspectives, and neurological disorders ^^

It's not necessary to become an animal, to perceive it. All that's needed is recall.

Wow. Great question. I look fwd to reading the replies. Thank you,

Who says it doesn't exist, and why would you believe them? Simply put, existence is not the only type of "being". The self/Self are "real" inspite of a lacking of manifestation.

May I please suggest: a more rigorous, agreed upon, definition of the word 'nature' in this context is absolutely necessary? For this purpose I suggest a confluence of 3. The nature of ______________________: How it is manifesting? How it is used for good? What are its constituent parts? Or, most succinctly: Existence Being Essence Using this model, one can begin to find words to describe the nature of anything, any non-thing, including Love, capital 'L'. Blessings to you and yours on your journey,

Yes. They're material sciences. Good. In Chinese cosmology, the human soul is a confluence of 5. This pattern of 5 is repeated cross cultures. The confluence of 5, inter-relating, inter-depending, is significant, because there's an undeniable valence corresponding to this concept. Regardless of its orientation, the figure is always and forever pointing "upwards" / "outwards". The point is: the revulsion, the aversion, to the realizing there's an Itty-bitty rapist finding safe harbor in our psyche is wholly and completely interwoven within the realizing. IOW: If you're feeling ookey, then you're on the right track.

Ok. Got it. What you're looking for are the attributes ( Spiritual DNA, for lack of a better words ) of each and every: thing and non-thing, as it is manifesting in the physical realm, as it is rooted to the eternal-one, and as it is emanating and contracting in a nearly infinite nested chain.

Self-love isn't a thing?

The perception of the individual is an "apprehension". Like a constable apprehending a suspect. The person is the apprehension ( "the probable cause" ) and more. Always more .. Not death. Within the moment of realization it's best described as "bitter-sweet"