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@NewKidOnTheBlock Thanks a lot for the replies and for adding nuance! Also, I really appreciate your open mind. Meeting such radical ideas with skepticism is only healthy. My goal is not that you blindly accept everything I say. My goal is that you become more skeptical, actually. I want you to be skeptical of the fact that you are more skeptical of communism than of the status quo (and well implemented social democracy). Here is my new post:

I feel like some of y'all might have taken this sentence too literally (taking things very literally and not being able to pick up on rhetoric devices such as hyperbole, sarcasm etc. is again an autistic trait (because of course it is lol)). This is hyperbole. Of course, Actualized.org is helpful. But it does not reach the root of your material Problems, which again is ND. It is also a rhetorical reference to this post:

On the nose. Thank you for that ahaahhaaksdkaahks

The Marxist-Leninist revolution is extremely deeply studied and makes perfect sense. The thing about ND is my idea and was meant as a fun thought to get people warmed up on real revolutionary theory. I do believe that there is a lot of truth in this idea. The claim that autistic people are uncorruptible lacks a lot of nuance I agree. Ben Shapiro for example seems to me to be autistic for example, but he also seems corrupt. Idk.

This is correct. I use the word ND here in a more narrow way. Autistic people, gifted people, highly sensitive people mainly.

These are really good instructions on how to make capitalism win and keep you oppressed. Also, there is a nice bonus that there is the chance that a fascist state is erected and you land in a concentration camp. Finally, a perfect environment to do spiritual bypassing!

First, you have an incomplete understanding of what autism is. My claim is that a significant portion of people here are autistic, including Leo. Do they seem to you to hit themselves in the head uncontrollably? Also, I want you to read this sentence again:

Sorry that I'm bashing you so much in particular my guy but did I get that right that you just complained about woke people and political correctness? Dude I hate to have to break it to you but you are majorely shooting yourself in the foot here. Woke people are the only people who accept you for who you are lmao.

Lol this is literally the funniest thing you could have said. I'm not even sure if you're trolling. Let me be very clear: This thing that you said is absolutely 100% solid proof that you're autistic and don't understand how neurotypical people function. It is the definition of autism. Non autostic people do all the steps of socializing completely automatic without even thinking a single thought in the process. That's what it means to not be autistic.

I believe Leo is not talking nearly enough about neurodivergence (ND) in his blog and in his videos. It is a big source of bias of this community. ND people naturally struggle with conformity. Autistic people value absolute truth over social truth. Also, they don’t like crowded places, so they prefer to spend time and socialize on the internet, for example on forums. People with ADHD and ED (executive dysfunction) value passion over regular jobs, since regular jobs are physically painful to them, which influences their definition of life purpose. Highly sensitive people value spirituality, since they are able to find pleasure in subtle sensations. Only gifted people have the brain power to think about philosophy all day. ND is a fundamental difference in the wiring of the brain which is genetic and irreversible. People who are ND fundamentally see the world differently than neurotypical people. I don’t want to downplay Leo’s work, but to point out the limits of his universalist rhetoric. It is important to know that it is impossible to pull regular people (the masses, in Marxist talk) up to our level, and we need to instead focus on leading them. Be aware of skewed stereotypes and edge cases about ND. Don’t say, “I’m not a nerd who can’t talk or feed themselves and has meltdowns, therefore I’m not autistic,” or “I can sit still, therefore I don’t have ADHD and therefore I don’t have executive dysfunction,” since all of ND is on a spectrum, and even if you don’t qualify for any diagnosis, your life can still be greatly impacted by being ND. My experience with ND people tells me that there is about a 99% chance that the person reading this is ND. I’ve never met a neurotypical person who is active on forums, especially a theoretical one like this. Most people have a bias toward wanting to believe that they are normal. This can be extremely dangerous for your life, in the same way that a person who is denying their drug addiction is much more likely to face disastrous outcomes than someone who is aware and seeks help. Don’t fall into the trap of being skeptical about being ND. Be skeptical about your skepticism. If it looks like a banana, smells like a banana, feels like a banana, and tastes like a banana, it is a banana.

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Being neurodivergent (ND) causes the person to develop insecurities because they don't fall into the socially accepted way, a valuable person is defined. The worst way (in terms of survival) to cope with low self-esteem is with self loathing, which leads to suicidality. A step-up, but still suboptimal, is self-pity which leads to depression. One way to function with low self-esteem is with denial. If you ignore the evidence of your low self-worth and instead put yourself on a pedestal and put everyone else down, you will deceive yourself out of your depression. One completely random and unrelated-to–anything–at-all-way this could be done is by declaring stuff like: "I am god, I have seen truth everyone else is sheep". This is the narcissistic way of dealing with low self-esteem. I don't necessarily factually disagree when people here say stuff like "I am the only one who cares about truth everyone is below me". I'm rather asking why it is important to you to see yourself as above everyone else. I want to emphasize this point: All the self acceptance mediation shadow work call it what you want is not reaching the root of the problem, which is that people see you as less valuable. Phrases like: "They are not productive, they are on forums all day" is language, discriminative of ND people and comes from a framework of wage labor (communism has once again entered the chat). If you want to function without a narcissistic way of coping, you will need to learn precisely in what way society is wrong. And this only works by learning about ND (also anti-capitalist theory. Communism Post is coming soon)

@Jannes Can you please rename this post to something like "Are you Neurodivergent? Poll (self diagnosed included)" so that people know what it's for

I can't punch a nazi/ice officer. I'm too sensitive and empathic to do that. However I can sure as hell radicalize someone into doing that. (btw. This is also also why when you see interviews of protestors of the radical left they often talk gibberish.)

You guys like to talk about massive action. How about taking over the united states?

I want to be precise about this since we are talking about the health of an individual who might be reading this and this is serious. I said that a life not lived accordingly to ND leads to chronic issues and implied a correlation (look up correlation vs causation) to the issues of Leo and JP. Also I don't know if executive dysfunction can lead to autoimmune disorders, but I know that it can lead to excessive stress and I suspect stress to play a role in autoimmune disorders. I'm not educated on this condition.

Most NDs painfully learn this through trial and error. This is what Leo is doing. This can take a whole lifetime. The best way to speed this process up is by learning about ND.

I want to add some nuance. A neurotypical person gets to choose whether they want to care or not. An ND person fundamentally does not have the choice. They don't function without knowing the truth. And if they force themselves, they live a miserable life.

False. This comes from a lack of understanding neurotypicals (I'm being deliberately provocative). The average neurotypical doesn't give a shit about theory but not bc they are stupid but because they value quality time with friends and family way more. They have a fundamentally different value system. They are totally happy being a cog in a machine. They don't care if they don't understand the purpose of what they are doing, they just want to gain the material conditions necessary to build family and social connections. And, again, from their perspective this is totally reasonable. We need to understand that an ND person fundamentally has a different purpose in society than a neurotypical. It is important to understand that it is impossible to live both lives at the same time. I suggest you to read my post about the ND bias of Actualized.org

It is important for you to understand that it is twice (some individual factor > 1) the amount of work. If you take a university course and for every lecture, you have to convince yourself that what you're learning is important you are less effective. What you are describing is called executive dysfunction (ED) and it is part of ND. Don't be afraid of the term "dysfunction" this is because in this society there is a bias towards negative psychology. You can reframe it as "passion oriented person".

@Natasha Tori Maru Spoke of waking up vs cleaning up. And you seemed to have discussed in what way waking up influences the process of cleaning up. But you forgot an important one, which is growing up (integrating the spiral). I would say there is a reciprocal relationship between the three. You can not sustainably develop each if you don't develop the others. If you only rely on waking up then, again, you engage in "spiritual bypassing". I press you to look this up. Learning about, experiencing, and contemplating ND helps foster cleaning up and growing up. It both addresses your personal trauma in interacting with neurotypical people and trying to live by their rules (cleaning up) and also helps you gain new insight into the lived experience of ND people as well as of neurotypical people (see video learning=making distinctions). I would count this as part of "wokeness" and therefore stage green (growing up). It is important for your epistemic integrity. Think of the blind people and the elephant. Every group in society has a different lived experience and it is especially important that you know exactly which group you are a part of and which you are excluded from. It also strengthens your ability for systemic thinking and see different forces in the society interacting. For example, I believe that a not unsignificant potion of the narcissism in the world stems from people coping with their executive dysfunction. Notice that Elon Musk is autistic. If you want to reach solid tier 2 thinking, you need to educate yourself about ND. Period.

@Hojo My head is buzzing because of burnout

Well said. It is called spiritual bypassing.

@Lyubov Again I 100% agree that separating from societal norms is the goal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_disintegration My claim is that you vastly underestimate how difficult this is in practice